UNCUT - Body Parts (DS9 S4E25) | Star Trek Journey 419

I love this episode. Boring ???? Contact filler??? For God’s sake stop the constant negativity and whinging about Ferengi stories. It is getting really wearing. I am wondering sometimes why you are bothering watch ST. Quark and Rom were excellent . So was Brunt ! There were some really funny scenes - Garak and Quark ‘s scenes were great . The ending was magic - all his friends stepping up.

Good episode overall but the ending is ultra S+ tier. Friends coming together to lift up Quark is beautiful.

The Meters O’Brien joke was peak. It’s going to be hard to top that one, Alex, but now that I know you have it in you, I expect nothing less.

So.... Bashier and Keira were married in real life. Which i always had a hard time imagining since they had 0 chemistry in the show. Anyway, Bashier got her pregnant and that is the reason they did this. Not sure if this was setup this way or it was opportunity. Did they give Keko/Obrien a 2nd baby knowing they will eventually have to hide Keira's pregnancy or did it just work out that way. It made hiding her pregnancy easy because they didn't have to hide Nana Visitor's pregnancy. Will Keiko ever have a normal Birth??? Minor Spoiler not a spoiler... but look for future Jokes where Keira tells Bashier this is ALL HIS FAULT. Double Entandra because the character put the baby in her and the real life actor put the baby in her.

I hope this episode grows on Josh and Alex over time and they come to appreciate it more

perhaps one of the most wholesome endings in Star Trek ever.

This isn’t game of thrones Star Trek doesn’t need penultimate episodes

I can't believe Nana Visitor was willing to get pregnant for this story. She's a committed actress. I do agree that asking Rosalind Chao to have an abortion was a step too far.

Wouldn't it have been interesting if Worf showed up and showed some sympathy for Quark as someone else who found himself ostracized from his planet and society?

I was never a big fan of Ferengi episodes, and if Quark and Shimerman weren't so great or likeable, they'd kind of be unwatchable. The main problem is, they expect the viewer to find Ferengi culture hilarious. But it's better in small doses. Like, once you hear the name "Divine Treasury" that's pretty much the joke.

Between Major Kira carrying the baby B plot and the Ferengi A plot, I find this one all over the place. C-tier.

Morn, why didn't you wear your new pants to the reopening?

I came for the Star Trek, but I will stay for the thruple trouble dark humor from Alex!

Is that... J-J-J-Jeffrey C-Combs??? AWOOGA! What a great guest actor! I'm certain you will be as ENTHRALLED with his performance as I am!

i think i watched ds9 around 10 times ... not ONCE have i checked the name of anyone in any opening (and i dont know the actor names anyways expect a very few ones) i truly think this is not a "tv" problem but a very "you" problem xD people dont rly read the names there and normaly dont know who plays what side role anyways xD like of all of voyager i know TWO actors names and they not even the big main cast xD

Buckle up boys. It starts with realizing that someone on screen is younger than you, then your kid makes a comment like "You were born in the nineteen hundreds!!!", then you realize your dentist is younger than you, then you realize all your doctors are, then you realize you have multiple doctors,.... Ugh

My Headcanon is that Garak knew Quark would eventually "Punch himself out" on the murder. after the conversation in the hollo-suite, I believe he walked away from the deal and watched him spiral into acceptance that he wanted to live more than he wanted to honor the contract. Truth is, I am not even sure he ever took him seriously and played the role to delay his decision long enough to have him arrive at the correct conclusion himself.

The pregnancy story never worked for me. Weirdest way to incorporate and actor's pregnancy into the show. I don't mind the whole explanation of "due to a medical emergency they had to transfer Keiko's baby to Kira" but the whole dynamic between Kira and Chief/Keiko is just odd. Going so far as to need to have Kira move in with them, all the awkwardness, them acting like it's some terrible ordeal that their unborn baby is not in the same room with them 24/7 is just too much. I could never buy into any of it. I always think this story comes much earlier in the series than it does.

To answer Josh question Avery Brooks has directed 6 episodes you guys have seen: Directed Episodes List"Tribunal" (Season 2, Episode 25) – His directorial debut."The Abandoned" (Season 3, Episode 6)"Fascination" (Season 3, Episode 10)"Improbable Cause" (Season 3, Episode 20)"Rejoined" (Season 4, Episode 6)"Body Parts" (Season 4, Episode 15. As for Ferengi episodes I didn’t like em much on first watch and probably 2nd too but they really have grown on me over the year especially because Quark has. It’s not one of those I’ve seen the series things either because that isn’t what I appreciate on recent viewing it’s that I can see them now as more than just comic relief as part of the fabric of the whole show.

Quark basically gets the Worf treatment in this episode. We see the Ferengi version of "Worf you're an outcast again."

No one has mentioned of how much development Ferengi society has received in this series. Sure, it's a capitalist joke, but the Rules of Acquisition and ethics revolving around it solidifies the society and it's "religion"/belief system. I rather enjoy watching them play in that pool. The Ferengi are now a real society in the Trek universe, much like the Klingons. More is known about them than Romulan society, Betazoid society, Tellarite society, etc...races we know relatively little about.

I love the episode, which I've already mentioned. It's a shame it didn't get you more. I think you'll like it more on a second watch of the series. It's way better than Transfigurations, don't be silly. Just to clarify the Quark stuff, since I don't think anyone mentioned it. The RoA are not the law. Quark essentially had everything seized and shunned from all Ferengi society and business because he broke a legal contract (not because he didn't follow a RoA). I assume Brunt bribed his Doctor to make this whole plan happen, of course. Also, I don't think you guys mentioned Worf at all. Quark essentially went through what Worf went through (twice). Most recently in the Way of the Warrior. The difference is that Quark doesn't have a career in Starfleet to fall back on.

Episode's fine overall, but I'm kinda' let down by a lack of Avery Brooks' directorial flourishes. Were they pressed for time and had to get a Bottle Show out post-haste?

OMG! Alex's face when he was figuring out the baby moved! LOL

When we get to the end, we need Josh's Ferengi-episode tier list Just let me know in advance so I can setup my pitchfork stall

This was okay, nothing special. I dont think I would ever want to watch it again.

The lengths this showrunners went to to not make Shakaar a main character when Nana Visitor got pregnant

I just wanted to comment here I have been binging all of Star trek to catch up with you guys and I just started Deep space nine in your journey. This show is definitely my favorite and I cant wait to catch up and see you guys react to these episodes as they release

Fantastic episode from top to bottom. Better than I’d remembered.

The Towers? You're both going to hell. ROTFLMAO.

This is basically the “it’s a wonderful life” ending and I think the dream with Nagus Gint? is like a Christmas Carol

This episode has depth and weight watch it again, please

Given that it was Quark's dream I dont think we can assume the marketing scheme thing is true because how would Quark now.

So what you're really asking at the end is, does Shakaar condemn surrogacy? This isn't a masterpiece or anything, but it's a solid B+ in my book. I always forget the Kira/baby plot for some reason being in this one. It's a creative way to write around a pregnancy. At least Gates could hide it with that lab coat and some creative camera work. Not really gonna work for Kira if they want her on screen much. As for the Quark story, it has it's moments. As for Brunt, I think he might be the best villain Ferengi, because so often when they try to make ferengi villains, like in Rascals, they end up writing them more like a cardassian or a klingon or something. Brunt is a ferengi through and through, but taken to a fairly vicious extent. I understand him not being some people's favourite, but I think he works for what he's intended to be. As for why Quark was willing to bend/break the rules before and not now, it's clearly a matter of the stakes involved. Yes he's violated Ferengi taboos and rules before. Giving Pel money to start a new life, cutting a deal with a union, etc... He's even mildly philanthropic on occasion. Quark is probably halfway between the typical cutthroat ferengi businessman and a human small business owner that occasionally gives some freebies to their customers because they understand the importance of customer loyalty. But the difference is he was always able to get away with it. Pel wasn't punished and Quark along with her because it would have blown back on Zek. Cutting a secret deal with the union was a have your cake and eat it too situation, and his life was threatened so he had motivation. Here however, he can't weasel out of it. He tried. He offered a refund, tried to bribe Brunt to tear up the contract. Quark finally got backed into a corner where he couldn't escape the consequences. None of the other times he broke the rules meant becoming an outcast. Now he's in the same boat as Garak and Worf. Can't trade ferengi stocks or do business with other ferengi, can't go home, everything he owns taken, he's essentially not a ferengi anymore by the standards of his society. Now Quark is also pretty cowardly, and even so he was willing to die to avoid that(for a while anyway). He's never been so caught between a rock and a hard place like this before. Even if the charity of everyone on the station lets him start a new business, he'll still be cut off from ferengi society. Regarding whether the bar looks the same next time, which I won't confirm or deny, but it it does look back to normal, you could always just headcanon they found some way to let Quark replicate a ton of stuff. In the same spirit of "it's not really charity, you'd be doing me a favor" that everyone used when giving him stuff to restart, you could say O'Brien is upgrading the stations replicators to be more efficient and they need to test the upgrades by running them through 500 replication cycles, and since Quarks see the most use, they won't ration/charge him for the energy/raw materials. Something like that. Maybe I'm just becoming a softy in my old age(I say at 38), but I was getting choked up this time seeing the crew rally behind Quark at the end. That scene is a big part of what gets this episode above C tier for me.

GIVE JEFFERY COMBS THE OSCAR FOR THIS ONE AND THE LAST ONE AND ALSO THE ONE WHERE HE PLAYED THE SEX PERVERT BUT THE REST OF THE EPISODE WAS TERRIBLE

I believe this is the first episode which explains the exchange rate between bars, strips, and slips.

The DS9 polycule: "This is Garak, his husband Julian, Julian's boyfriend Miles, Miles's wife Keiko, their girlfriend Kira, and Kira's boyfriend Shakaar"

I think the last time Kira and Keiko had a scene together was when they were arguing about the school in "In the Hands of the Prophets."

“The Towers” lol now I want to see a pic of Quark in the cockpit screaming with the Towers in front

Guilty pleasure for me. Always liked this one. You cold hearted bastards 😂

Quark did not brake just a Rule of Akquisition. He broke a CONTRACT with another Ferengi which ist supposed to be sacred (because contracts with everybody else are not). This is a huge deal and a big shift for his character.

I thought mentioning the Titan was dark, but goddamn, Alex!!! LOL! This is a fun episode. It's a nice bit of fluff before the season finale, but it has some heart and helps give some depth to Quark and his relationship with everyone else on the station at the end, which is welcome IMO.

After listening to Josh's logic on how Nana's unborn baby is technically an on-screen character of this episode, I have to wonder --- did Django (yes, they named him Django) get a SAG card for being in this episode?

This was so out of left field and well executed for what it was, both the A and B stories, I would have to give the overall episode an A rating. Honestly, I was expecting there to be a punchline at the end with Garak when Quark decides he doesn't want to die and Garak insinuates he has already poisoned Quark's food or beverage that he is consuming.

SEX Scoreboard. ummmm none?!?

I like Jeffrey Coombs but I really don't like Brunt as a character. I'd love for the ending to have been Quark breaking the contract and then putting him through a table

Alex "Meters O'Brien" Miles "Over my dead body! We are not having a metric baby in this house."

Damn Cardassian transporters. Can't trust 'em to work for sh!t.

Not the best Ferengi episode but I do find it funny how Josh laughs through out the Ferengi episodes and then at the end is like, “Yeah, not for me.”

I'm sure plenty of people are going to say it... So I'll let them say it.

This is like the Battle Beyond the Stars of DS9 for me: Not A-tier, but a really enjoyable B-tier. Somewhere between S1 of TNG and now, the producers have figured out that all Ferengi stories need to be a little tongue-in-cheek to work, and this is a great example. A lot of great one-liners, but also some self-aware examination of the limitations of Ferengi thought, and some surprising muscle in the acting from Armin Shimerman and Max G. I agree the Kira story is underbaked, which is my chief complaint, but I was too busy going "awwwww" at the ending to care too much.

I love this episode so much! Also, growing up in the 80s and 90s so many actors that get pregnant their characters were either written off or put into the story that killed their character. This still today is hands down the best way to have Nana Visitor’s pregnancy included without ruining Kira’s character. 5 stars for that alone. Plus Quark realizing that everyone loves him at the end is too cute!

The way I interpret Quark asking Sisko to pay a storage fee is not that he’s trying to somehow milk some profit out of this, but that his pride is too wounded to be able to just accept charity so easily. So, this is a way to kind make it look like he’s the one doing Sisko a favor by charging him very little to store the furniture here. Sisko recognizes this as a fig leaf for Quark's pride, which is why he agrees to it right away.

This year on Staaaar Treks: Babies *will* be transported out of wombs!

Sisko trying to "sell" the baby's move to Chief like "ayyy, not bad, right??" is so funny to me. It's always the little things, the odd acting choice, the background moments, the personal quirks, that make me love DS9.

I am going to blame TNG Suspicions for saying the Ferengi had burial rituals. Just no. I don't care if that came first. This is more interesting and more on-point. :)

It's a Wonderful Life meets DS9 with Quark as George Bailey

Let's fucking go!!!!😤😤😤