UNCUT - Emergence (TNG S7E23) | Star Trek Journey 322

Finally got around to watching this one, now all I have left is... bloodlines... ugh

“Riveting”… 😂

At about 28:30, where Data is (comic relief? lol?) holding the taxi by the bumper with one hand while the engine spins the tires at full throttle...the very next cut you can clearly see both of Data's hands on screen, while he's working with the gizmo in the street. You can still hear the engine and the tires screeching. I remember noticing that error when I was a 4rth grader and being completely annoyed. Weird how it's still just as irritating decades later.

COWARD!! Worf just stood there and watched while a ton of bricks fell on Troi! Grow a spine Worf! (I think he has barrel PTSD)

Ensign Gates has nothing on Lolita Fatjo. 🌸

30:00 ROTFL!!

11:15 Stupid plot element #1: something would have torn the ship to pieces that isn't normally detected by the sensors. If it was dangerous to the ship, the sensors would originally be designed to recognize and report on the danger. Completely asinine writing.

I HATE this episode SO MUCH.

This was my favorite episode when I was a kid. I love an interesting, almost supernatural mystery on the enterprise. Seeing it again I do agree its not as great as I remembered and it felt much longer of an episode as a kid. I still love it but its mostly because its taking me back to my childhood.

Enjoyed the reflection at the end about how time passes, both on this Star Trek journey and in life in general. If TOS represents childhood and TNG/DS9 our teen yrs, does nuTrek represent adulthood? lol

I love Alex’s love for Ensign Gates

Turns out the train conductor is future Eric who came back in time because he wanted to make sure the crew had tickets

Josh's idea about bringing back callbacks to all the previous holodeck episodes is actually brilliant. It's so good, I'm actually mad that it didn't happen

not 3 more episodes...only 2...

I don't remember a damn thing about this episode.

Yup - the Borg, Q, the crystalline entity, the big, blue barrel that doofed Worf, the holodeck safeties always failing, Barclay's anxiety, that horny candle-ghost... it's all been the work of one person - Ensign Gates... McFadden! *pulls off mask scooby-doo style* *dramatic music, fade to black* To be continued next time on Staaaaaar Trek - the next generation!

this episode might be a template reactin of voyager where 90% of the show is this

Thank god the crazy straw lifeform lived, oy vey

This was’nt Masks bad but dang it was close

My theory as to why their champagne glasses didn’t disappear.. the computer need's to make split second decisions as to what is a prop that is needed and “replicated” and can be carried out such as Moriarty’s drawing of the enterprise. & what is just “Set dressing” such as the book Picard tossed out in “Ship in a bottle” so of course drinking champagne on the Holodeck they would need real glasses and real liquid. Moriarty’s drawing is the biggest stretch… but the computer must have been like “ok this is important he’s taking it with him.”

Reminiscent of the Star Trek Animated Series episode "Practical Joker". Probably better left to that series than this one.

I do like the idea of clear call backs (some of Worfs monsters that he fights, set to 11 as "train security" might have been cool). Lawrence Tierney who played Cyrus Redblock would have been cool but by this point he had his role in Reserve Dogs and had something of a career revival with that. Not sure if he would have been willing to come back for a minor guest spot. Also that kinda takes away the fact that he dissolved at the end of The Big Goodbye (did he die when he dissolved)?

Look at the bright side, this is the last bad episode of TNG!

Yeah its not great but a nice concept at least. Discovery kind of runs with this at one point, and makes an even worse job of it.

If your experience is like mine (and YMMV, for sure), I think you'll end up liking DS9 as much as TNG, just in a different way. TNG is my happy place, still. The Enterprise-D is bright and welcoming, and everyone knows what to do, and everyone talks everything out, and I can go there for an hour and just be away from the world in a place where problems get solved. DS9 is more of a shared-trauma kind of thing. Those characters go through some serious shit over seven seasons, and I came to care fiercely for them as a result. The fact that they're all flawed and struggling in some way helped a lot with that. I go to DS9 when I need a reminder in my life to try again. Not that any of that applies to this garbage episode, but just so it's out there.

Hot garbage. Also loved that comment about how Picard should direct modern tv.

I think it’s weird that in this series life seems to be so easy to create. It seems to be happening all the time. It seems to, at least to me, devalue life. Also, during this time it was still a popular idea to unfortunately let plane hijackers do what ever they wanted to do. Also, it’s because of the episodes like this, that people don’t like the majority of season seven. Though it does have some bright spots. I hate to tell Alex this, but we only have two episodes left, not three. The last episode is a two-parter.

Producers - “We’re finishing up the script for the finale. We have this turd lying around! That’ll buy us time!”

Prediction: The next episode will make up for this one and be a favorite for Josh and Alex.

Hmm... would I rather rewatch this, or Masks? I think it might actually be Masks. Both are boring and slow, but I find this one even more bland and generic, whereas at least with Masks you get the set changes and all the Brent Spiner stuff.

Oh dear. Rare I say this, but that was dull as dishwater.

3 to go boys, I second Raphael's sentiment. It's been a wonderful journey through TNG with both of you guys, reliving a cherished series has been even more compelling than my first watch of it. To many more series to come!

As I understand the holodeck, I think if someone is given food or something to drink, it's not a hologram, it's being replicated. That's why they can actually eat/drink it, and why it would stay in their hands if they were holding it when the simulation ended.

“D of all Ds.” Yeah, totally agree. Boring and pointless.

This is the kind of episode that would have been in early season 3 when we were all telling you the show was about to actually get good.

It really seems like they crammed in some last minute leftover ideas because the show was about to end. "It's weird, but it's our last chance to make the episode!" Instead of building to a finale in the back half of the season. While I like some of the movies, and later appearances of characters, I also think there would have been some value in Season 7 being the end. It had a good finale, and we wouldn't have had the "Save it, because we're making movies" attitude I think they were forced into. Part of the problem of an ongoing franchise.

The only computer episode I like is the Ultimate Computer. "Fools and colleagues who wouldn't begin to under my concepts! laughing at me! laughing at the boy wonder!! something like that lol "Jim! give him a minute he is in a state of shock!!! Destroy it, Kirk!!!! look what it did to your mighty starships!!! LOL omg such a great episode! I can quote TOS more than anything. Its only because I never had a VCR as a kid, so I use to Audio tape the Episodes at night. The only episode I heard on Audio before watching it was Metamorphosis. Let me tell it was far better to listen to it than watch it. I remember being disappointed by it. After time went by that changed of course.

Your idea would have been so much better!

Yeah this was a piss poor story really only 2 more decent episodes, fortunately they stuck the landing

Happy Halloween gentlemen. I haven't posted in a while. AI videos I usually don't have much love for them but this Star Trek one I couldn't resist though the soul funk one is a close second. Enjoy the weekend guys ! https://youtu.be/TmLR3k6R1gE?si=6iqCXosN6Au99FUv

We are two for two on you guys(and the fandom at large) detesting my favorite episodes. This and Masks are the two episodes I have the earliest memories of TNG from. Granted, I saw them when I was maybe seven and I loved(and love) them more for my own imagination of what these technologies can do interacting with each other, but that's what made me love Star Trek.

As I have said, I have a soft spot for this one. Objectively, it's not a good episode. It's a low C if I'm feeling generous. But I still love the idea of a new intelligence emerging from their experiences aboard the ship. I guess this sort of qualifies as another "newfound family" ep of S7, given the Enterprise had a baby. Now, obviously there was a ton of room for improvement. Having a bunch of callbacks to prior holodeck eps would definitely have helped, and lightening up on the technobabble while leaning into the philosophical implications would have made the idea more interesting. Could have been an opportunity for Data to bring up Lal again. Also if they had brought back previous holodeck characters, rather than have this abstract "Vertiform City" thing, have the entity speaking through these characters trying to learn who and what it is. Asking questions, trying to understand why it exists. It could have been such a great concept to explore, following off Quality of life, but they couldn't stick the landing.

Picard's last comment about the experiences and logs of the crew being absorbed into the whole lifeform matrix thing... if only we had seen some indication of that instead of a bunch of random cliched characters we've never met before. I think they were going for a Jungian dream symbology thing but none of it works.

I love that you hit yourselves with the repeat clip of the probe after the "This scene again?" joke from the 'Bloodlines' watch. XD

I always assumed that food and drinks in the holodeck are made by replicators. Why would the not be?

I always liked this one. Pretty creative.

Oh man... I didn't remember this being this boring! I think back in the day, they idea of the ship becoming sentient was just cool enough to like the episode for that alone. Seeing it now though, it just doesn't hold up for me.

The good D?? You got something you wanna say Alex??

the guys are going to hate voyager

If TOS is your childhood, and TNG was your teens, then the remainder of DS9 is your party in your 20s, next day early morning walk of shame show. I'm so jealous of you guys...

This episode says that the enterprise creates its own “offspring“ and creates its own version of “tin man“ or gumtu

Fun fact: This was Cliff Bole's 25th TNG episode, making him the most prolific TNG director. In second place is Les Landau with 21.

I forget this is a season 7 episode as for whatever reason they show this alot on reruns (unlike Picard's fake son which is never shown) Maybe this is hurt by how strong DS9 has been?

Since the new life form was created from the fantasies of the crew, the Sex Scoreboard staff wants to make it clear that the: handcuffs, bottle of baby oil, gimp mask, and 12' dildo did not come from us.

There are reasons why season 7 has not the greatest reputation. This is one of them.

One of the worst tng ever. You could see the disdain in every actors face.

Directed by Gates McFadden awesome shirt! Had more excitement for seeing that than this episode

good news is with my newly upgraded membership i get to see star trek a day earlier bad news is its this episode!

Pervert. LMAO.

Watching you two reference all the great episode with such fondness at the start makes up for this train-wreck of a plotline (and with such a promising start, too!)

Despite the weirdness of this one. I’ll still take it over Force of Nature which remains worst of the season at this point.

Ah wonder what Joe Menosky was smoking this week. He seems to come up with wild concepts for episodes that never quite work 😬

I missed this episode when it aired. I read about the plot because it was all you could really do back then and I thought it sounded absolutely sick. Then, when I finally got around to seeing it after the original DVD collections came out, I was so utterly disappointed, perhaps more than any other episode I had missed on air. It's so unbelievably flat. And the whole time, I didn't care. I would go as far to say that I couldn't care... cause I actually tried. The random holodeck characters have no life to them; they feel generic AF. I wish they had at least used more from the worlds they created. Imagine if Dixon's Hill's secretary, for example, was the representation for this new lifeform? Idk, it just lacked a connection, which I feel like we needed this late in the show.

Imagine how much better this episode would’ve been with Cyrus Redblock, Minuette, Moriarty, Freud, Einstein, etc.

About half way through the episode in the conference room, that was a strange series of shots, all just face shots, no group shots. I think Alex commented on it briefly too. Strange choice

Season 7 isn't hated. It's just a drop off in quality overall compared to the previous seasons of TNG. The Old SOS ranking by fans watching it when it aired has season 7 nearly identical in quality to season 3 overall. But down from seasons 4, 5, and 6. But still significantly better then seasons 2 and 1 And yeah this one is either a low D or a high E.

The ending should have been Picard talking about the new lifeform being a sum of all the good deeds the crew had done, but as Picard is talking we hear faint screams of terror and see a short clip of it harvesting an alien species

Will you guys be watching the final two episodes together as a two-hour finale, as it was shown on tv originally?

I don’t blame you for forgetting Bloodlines after the glory of The Wire. I think one of your invariable post TNG ranking videos should be a ranking of all the ‘holodeck’ episodes. This one falls a bit flat IMO. A C for me.

This was LUCKY to get an E...

4 seconds in and I need Josh's shirt... yesterday! 🖖 [Edit] Ok... what if we do Encounter at FairPoint... but MORE terrible.