UNCUT - The Expanse Season 3 Episode 13
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Gentlemen hit on the core point. Need the proper honest goal. Focus on the story. If your goal is ratings and renewal, you lose the character arc in pursuit of an external view. Let the story breathe. I look at Firefly as an example of story. Sure it was cancelled, but it is a cult classic. The actors remain friends over their careers. Was that not success?
I remember back in the day just getting into The Expanse right as scifi was considering pulling the plug, and then they announced S3 would be the last. Ithink there was a petition I signed, and I bought the blurays, anything to show Amazon there was a market. Thankfully Bezos was a fan of the show. And yeah, even if his response was extreme, Ashford believed he was doing the right thing. Drummer seems to have buried the hatchet if she was willing to have a drink with him. I think there's some reflection on his part at the end. He knows he was wrong, and he knows people died because of that, despite the best of intentions. Lastly, the reaction to Diogo getting pancaked did not disappoint. Now he and Miller can chat it up in the afterlife. Miller "I thought I told you to get laid, kid. Now you're here. You just can't stop[ losing, can you?"
Excellent finale, and it felt like one because this is the conclusion of the book it's based on. Also, I wonder with Anna. Replace her with Picard, same lines and actions... I'd dig that way more. I think "preachy" often comes down to delivery, acting chops, and how well-liked the character is itself. Even though I agree with everything Anna said, it feels different depending on the source. Silly monkey brain... Yeah these kind of are like Stargates. Fully agreed regarding villains. The hardest target to write is a character that stands against your "heroes" yet makes good points and clearly from their perspective view themselves as the good guy too. So compelling to watch. Regarding Clarissa or Melba, I don't think it's only about wanting the approval of Anna, I think she heard Holden talking in the brig, to himself, to Naomi, and at the end to Ashford, and realized he wasn't the demon she thought he was, that helped push her over the hump.
Picard isn't preachy, he's the literal opposite of preachy. If they start dealing with alien cultures that they barely understand, Picard will go out of his way to understand them and proceed according to THEIR cultural norms. Calling him preachy is literally insane lol
I loved season 3, season 4 answers more questions. Season 5 gives you pay offs on main characters. And season 6 is one of the best with new villains from the past plus the finale which although it concludes the story. I was left devistated that for now there would be no more Expanse. Tragic.
It's crazy to say given how far we've already come in the story, but it's still far from the top.
This is the last season that was produced by the Scifi channel...and if it hadn't been for Amazon swinging in with its sacks of cash, this WOULD have been it. And I agree, it would have been an acceptable ending. It paid off the protomolecule storyline, and also created aturning point in human history as the period at the end of the sentence. There really was enough here to stop without feeling unsatisfied.
This is the moment where the whole thing went WIDE. No longer just a bunch of petty stuff in a single system...now its about humanity turning up the volume to 11 and transcending into an interstellar civilization. Its the transition between localized hard science fiction, and full blown epic space opera. I remember the goosebumps when all those ring gates to all those systems started opening up...the realization that the entire purpose of the protomolecule was to connect this system to that network...finally the entire mystery was revealed. Its really good stuff, guys.
RE Melba/Clarissa: Her augment has nothing to do with the Protomolecule. It's JUST a minor cybernetic chemical injection enhancement that temporarily confers super-strength on the user, activated by a switch built into a tooth. She had it implanted solely so she could get revenge on Holden for "unjustly" taking down her father, it's not something he did to her as an experiment. When she realized everything she believed was wrong, and all the awful stuff that she did that she genuinely felt bad about (particularly killing her trainer after he discovered her sabotage) was all in vain, against a man that was only trying to do the right thing WITHOUT violence (unlike her), THAT was why she had a heel-face turn. Anna was just another voice that nudged her, not the actual cause for the shift. RE Anna: While I don't have nearly the animosity towards the character that you guys seem to (I'm not overly cynical about legit virtuous characters, or even ones who are trying super hard to be virtuous but come across as performative, they do exist in real life, and trying is still better than not), I will admit, Anna is a fairly bland character in terms of the story. She doesn't really further the plot so much as provide a conduit for the plot to move through her, over and over. She doesn't start a war, she just writes a speech so someone else can spin it into a war diatribe. She doesn't catch Errinwright, she just conveys a message from Avasarala to the Secretary General. She doesn't discover Clarissa, she just learns the truth from her dying friend and helps capture her so others can arrest her. She doesn't lead the team to the comm station, she just spreads the message they tell her to share. She's not even a MacGuffin, she's a MacGuffin delivery system. Not really a character so much as a walking exposition/infodump service that other characters use from time to time.
Fair enough assessment of Anna. Book Anna is quite a bit more interesting as a character. I too remain a bit puzzled by the intense hatred towards a pastor on the basis of being altruistic/virtuous and trying to spread that message. That's literally her job description. You are correct about how she is written into the show...though they did choose to cast Elizabeth Mitchell...who has a soft voice and smooth features and a warm demeanor. There's nothing obnoxious or Karen-esque about her performance or vibe. She's a difficult presnence for me feel animosity towards.
Now's the time. Bridge Crew, let's hear it. SEASON FOUR! SEASON FOUR! SEASON FOUR!
I know some disagree, but personally, I think the best is yet to come. SO much to say, and can't say a word, dang it
Melba really turns not so much from Anna but from Holden who she is eavesdropping on. Anna has her influence and it’s about self reflection. But seeing and hearing Holden she realizes he is not what she thought he was and thus her actions are based on lies.
Go forth with these 1300 worlds and live in peace and Harmony, Of course, which one of those 1300 worlds do you go to first? Where do we go from here? Hopefully about you know 2000 galaxies across the universe from here. Maybe even further
Season 4 is good, but for me the quality of the series starts to taper off with season 4.
Season 5 is my personal favorite...kinda tied with 3.
Another Monday, another breakfast, another episode of the expanse, another good day with the Target Audience Have a great day guys, I’m about to !