PATRON TAKES - TNG S7E8

I enjoy this one much more than I expect I would. The situation is plausible, the technology believable, the dialogue sensible, and the investment is real. The only significant problem is we have seen "Johnny whoremoans" before so we already knew he was in love with anything and everything. So being in love with Jack Crusher's wife isn't a huge shocker. Solid "B" episode. But will Josh and Alex still respect each other in the morning??

I fell in love with the Picard/Crusher dynamic from the moment they first locked eyes in that police station in “The Big Goodbye”! I’m just sorry it took until Season Seven to get an episode that further explores their romance to this level. But we DID get it. And now let’s see what happens…! 😉

Oh yeah, the fanfiction episode where everyone screams internally at Picard: 'Don't let her go!!!'

Shiptease: the episode. Not a bad episode but really just fanservice for Picard/Crusher shippers with a letdown ending to reset the status quo

I like the little sub plot of breakfast, where Beverlly is going to make a special Vulcan breakfast the next day, and then on the planet, she realizes he hates these complex breakfast and only wants to have coffee and a croissant, which is actually the same as what she wants as he has been indulging her Desire for different breakfast because he thought she wanted that more often than not people miscommunicate with each other because they believe they know what the other is thinking that was a good example of trying to reconcile how we act versus what we want

Probably the best Picard - Crusher episode of the series. That plot is S tier, the B plot was… well, they had to think of something I guess.

It only took 7 seasons for them to say what everyone already knew

If this whole episode is about the Picard and Crusher romance and the ending is that they shouldn't have a romance and there was no romance then what was the point of this episode

This was definitely an episode. Really, except for the Picard and Crusher stuff it is very forgettable.

Picard and Crusher stuff is S tier. Rest of the episode, meh.

I’m glad they revisited the Picard-Crusher relationship here, and the aliens were pretty funny. Some small part of me wished that Wesley had been revealed to actually be Picard’s son (secretly)…but that would have tainted Picard’s character.

I'm down with Stewart and McFadden getting to do some juicy scenes together, but by this point in the series, the whole will they/won't they had grown thin. I think Frakes' direction helps this episode but still can't rescue the story overall.

They briefly bring up a subject that stuck with me and I always thought was compelling. We all have thoughts that cross our minds but don't act on them, yet that thought might be damnable if someone knew that you thought it. It was nice to address that fact in this episode. It makes you wonder how thin the line of 'Thinking it but not saying/doing it" really is.

All the stuff with Picard and Crusher is S tier, the B plot is low C

There is a new name for paranoia, Mauric.

Never really liked this episode. 🤷‍♂️

Riker called Kes equipment junk :O

Second Chances Part 2: Crush on Picard Does anyone else need a last minute romance? Geordi? Spot? Pulaski?

I'm a sucker for Picard/Beverly stuff like this, although I wish the episode would have ended with them together romantically.

Question: do you think it was a wasted opportunity to not have Beverly and Picard end up as a couple at the end of this episode? Because i think it is.

Finally, the slow burn that has been simmering for SEVEN seasons now gets a chance to flare up. Forget about the copy-paste warring factions, I want to see this relationship explored further. If I were in your positions, I would be super excited to see what’s in store (not a spoiler).

I like this episode a lot; great use of a science fiction conceit to explore character. I suppose I can understand people who are really invested in a Picard/Crusher romance may find it disappointing, but I'm not one of those people. I find this an excellent exploration of their relationship.

It's not a bad episode, but the "will they, won't they" between Crusher and Picard had been drawn out for the entire show at this point. With eps like Lessons and Inner Light being a thing, I just don't think many people could be bothered with with another tease at this point..

I don't appreciate Bev noticing Picard's feelings, recognizing that he's keeping it to himself, actively coaxing it out of him, then stomping on it once he admits to it out loud.

I am sure everyone else will focus on the Picard/Crusher dynamic. So I will say that I loved how absolutely batshit and needlessly paranoid these two factions were, especially the Kes ambassador. Dude is straight-up Alex Jones in space.

I like this episode, I wish they had made it in season 4

B+ for bringing more Picard/Crusher lore. I like this one, as its a good example of TNG S7 being willing to still try new things towards the end - although not nearly as morally grey/ambiguous as DS9 is now. What loose story threads / plots / characters would you want tied up as TNG starts to wrap up?

“ and now we’re friends “ FUCK YOU EPISODE ! “ or perhaps we should be afraid “ aaaaarrggghhhhh FUCK YOUUUU EPISODE !

Question: Is the lack of continuity affecting the establishment of meaning relationships for our main cast? Is Picard a better character if he remains the tragic loner, with only the Enterprise as his lady?

Nice moments between Picard and Crusher. Only if they hadn’t ignored this dynamic for the entire series.

I don't usually rewatch TNG, although I've been enjoying rewatching with you, but this is one of the handful of episodes this season that sticks out in my head as being good.

I always thought this episode did a good job reconciling the whole Picard/Crusher dynamic. Good performances by both actors.

Enjoyable, but doesn’t really live up to the potential of it’s premise.

"Hey, let's finally do something about this romance element from Season 1 we never really bothered to address! By not progressing it at all! Genius!"

A very long overdue exploration of Crusher and Picard, a bit contrived but I do like the character scenes we get. It’s a solid if not spectacular episode.

As with all (?) episodes that represent the best of what Trek can do, this is using a sci-fi setup to tell a human/character-driven story. I love it.

I really like this episode! I never really shipped the Crusher/Picard romance but, I really like how this episode handled it. It properly addressed it, after spending 7 years dancing around the point, and surprised me that in the end, it was Beverly who turned down Picard! She always seemed more keen than he did! Lots of nice moments, solid B.

Crusher mentioned that she learned to bite her tongue when speaking to people, without a telepathic link she could hide such thoughts. Do you guys still engage people, like Crusher, that are holding back judgment/harsh perspectives? Do you still hold it against them if you sniff it out?

How do you think Doctor Beverly felt about seeing Picard's memory of getting down with three other women? You just know he was a hole in the sheet/lights off kinda guy.

R.I.P. Picards Jacket, left on the planet never to have a replacement replicated 🫡

Lessons: Part 2.

This was the singular TNG episode that was used to nominate TNG for an Emmy for best Drama in 1994, the only Trek series to ever receive such an honor. What is maddening is any of us can think of any number of prior episodes that were infinitely better than Attached, and this nom is late to the party. Whoopi put it best: “nice of them to discover you once you’re dead.” As for my grade, B for bringing the nom.