PATRON TAKES - TNG S7E2
TAKES WILL BE READ 7/8
Comments (72)
I’ve always enjoyed this episode. It’s just really funny.
I’ve always enjoyed this episode. It’s just really funny.
In my opinion there are five S-tier episodes in season 7... This is not one of them.
Meh. Data’s advice to Worf in Ten Forward worth the price of admission.
this is a season seven TNG episode to be sure
This is the worst 2 parter in the whole series IMO. You will come to appreciate Time’s Arrow after this atrocity.
wrong episode
A very mid episode. This ain't no Season 6!
There are one or two moments on the Enterprise thar are worth watching, but almost all of the Picard stuff is awful.
This one is a mixed bag IMO. Great Acting by Sir Patrick Stewart of course, and the premise is certainly interesting. However, the episodes pacing struggles throughout and falls short on execution. I like the humor though. Barely a C for me if only because Worf gets to beat up someone for a change.
The most definitive thing you can say about this: Yup. It’s an episode. Clear D, takes no chances, offers nothing new, and the only thing that keeps it from E is that it’s not offensively bad. Unfortunately, get ready for a lot of this in S7.
This one is kinda Hoky. For once, the best parts aren't with Picard but with the ambassadors on the ship (Worf's especially) as his barely contained rage and subsequent loss of control plays as great comedy. Even Troi's exasperation at TOO MUCH chocolate is funny given how it's sort of become her signature. I found Picard's portion frustrating -- the lighting was very dark in my opinion and rather than be genuinely intrigued as to the mystery of who this woman was, I was annoyed by her. C- for me.
Wow Worf won a fight for once and that guy was totally willing to get dicked down by picard
Just barely missed the porking scoreboard
I do wish we had gotten a Data and Geordi scene rebuilding friendship and trust
Why won't you love me!? Why won't you love this episode!? It's that woman from Lessons, isn't it!? ISN'T IT!? I don't dislike this episode, but I don't really like it either
I know I am going to be an outlier but THIS is my personal guilty pleasure TNG episode. it's got everything people hate, insufferable ambassadors, picard in an abusive relationship, and a completely flimsy sci-fi explanation at the end. I can't help but be entertained though, I'm a sucker for these kinds of twilight-zone-esque plots with really far out sci-fi concepts. I actually think the ambassador stuff is kind of hilarious, it almost feels like the show poking fun at itself by having these guys be soooo over the top annoying and in the end its all just a goofy experiment.
I feel as though this concept could have been executed better
Don't worry guys it gets better. With some bad mixed in.
I really dislike this episode. Season 7 is overall a downgrade from season 6, even though the best episodes of season 7 are as good as any other seasons...but more medium and more terrible. I consider this the worse of all even though I don't think most will agree. Also it doesn't make sense that the aliens "don't understand enjoyment" even though they clearly enjoy things and it doesn't seem to be a totally new experience. Like the one guy enjoys getting beaten up by Worf way too much. I can't give any TNG a E became there is something in every episode I enjoy and am grateful for (Data telling Worf he should find connection with the ambassador over them both being assholes). But this is as close to E as I get D.
Anna makes me miss Vash.
So, Worf getting so pissed at his ambassador is the only enjoyable moment of this turd. IMHO, season 7 is only marginally better than Season 1. But you guys liked Season 6 better than I do so I'm curious to see what you think!
It’s an episode of a show. It’s nice to see Worf actually beating someone up for a change.
I remember thinking this episode was boring when it first aired, but on a rewatch years later, it was more tolerable.
Feels like this episode's wall of writers saw the DS9 episode 'The Forsaken' and were the only people in the world who thought the "Bashir chaperones ambassadors" storyline was the plot that needed to be expanded. Actually I can kinda imagine this as a DS9 season 1 episode - Kira gets the Worf arc, Dax gets Troi's, and Avery Brooks gets stranded with the crazy lady. Not sure it'd be any better though.
Ah, so this is how it’s going to go huh?
A good reminder that not every episode can be a 'S'. Still entertaining though
Well, it's Star Trek.
I’ve only seen this episode when it first aired which tells you all you need to know.
Sleep medicine. D.
I found this a weaker episode. Honestly I began to think after this (and the awful descent part 2), that TNG had stayed on the air a season too long. I didn’t keep that thought but after some great season six episodes, season 7’s start was disappointing.
I guess I'm the only one that likes this episode. I find it very entertaining. I suppose the episode is screaming out to everyone else "Why won't you love me???"
Oh, I love this episode. It's quirky, surprising, and not boring. I've also been known to scream "WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ME???" on occasion. hahahaha!
Worf punched an alien who had it coming. That's it. That is the highlight of the episode.
I can't call this a Banger, but it is slightly better than contract filler. Very TOS in a way. Great moments in here, especially on the enterprise, IF you can stay awake. C+ or B-
Seeing Worf nearly kill a guy is always fun, but not enough to make it memorable on its own. Anyone for some 'actual' stakes?
Well, back during the title sequence of Rascals, you DID ponder the possibility of an episode where Picard is off the ship and Riker is in command during a non combat/diplomatic scenario, AND whether he would rein in Worf's temper. You sure you haven't seen this show before?
One alien be unreasonably rude to Worf, the other alien be kinda rapey towards Picard. I feel like these are kinda brushed over after the fact a bit too easily/quickly for my liking. Should be grounds for a diplomatic incident, no? I certainly would sue.
It's ok because they're doing it to a man
I just want to try that dessert made out of 17 varieties of chocolate. The rest of the episode can f*** off. lol
YAWN. Haven't watched this one since its first airing in late 95/early 96. So you could say it's stuck with me... but for the wrong reasons
A stereotypical “What is this thing you humans call ‘love’?” scenario.
Take elements from "Metamorphosis", "Allegiance" and "Sins of the Father". Mix, stir, and presto! A half-baked episode!
If the aliens want to get the human experience of boredom, they just need to have one of their ambassadors watch this episode.
Top comment. I had to reconstruct this episode from memory like the torture table from 'Schisms' to even remember it...
I didn’t like this episode and I still kinda don’t. It’s not that it’s really bad. It’s just not interesting to me and I tend to feel bored watching it. I don’t feel a ongoing sense of mystery at all. And because I dislike this episode I predict for some reason you guys will. Like it.
To me, I view this as TNG's take on "By Any Other Name" from TOS, sadly without Scotty drinking one of the aliens under the table. Worf's frusteration is an adequate replacement. Still TOS did this one better
The episode made the audience a subject of antagonism.
I guess they had enough of Troi being sexually assaulted and thought it was Picard’s turn.
But Picard didn't get slashed across the face for his trouble!
So… no stakes? Yeah, thanks for that.
I have no take.................... nor do I give..... a shit
That was one crazy species.
I view this as a throw away episode. I'm not sure what we learned from this. Maybe D grade but I'll let you guys decide.
This episode exists? To be honest I only remember Worf losing his temper & the over indulgent Lyaaran
Troi still likes chocolate, Worf still likes hitting people! That’s it really 🤔
Worf stuff good. Picard stuff baaaad.
I'd like to think that this is the episode where Worf molded his smoldering Klingon fury into an unstoppably surgical weapon through Starfleet discipline. I wouldn't be able to keep my cool against that douchebag for more than a minute so I can't fathom the sheer willpower Worf had to exert to control his Klingon rage.
It's.... an Episode. An interesting idea, but not sure the best execution.
Here is where we start to see the chinks in TNG season 7's armor. There are good episodes this season, but unfortunately this is not 1 of them.
This is exactly the kind of episode that gives this season a bad reputation.
Ah worth a watch for Worf hitting the ambassador. Everything else tho 🤦♂️
Worf catching strays from Data like it’s “A Fistful of Datas” again.
I turned myself into a lady and had sad, lusty thoughts about Picard. Anyway, what happens in this episode again?
Star Trek’s Stephen King’s Misery. A season 1 or 2 episode if ever I saw one. Scraping the bottom of the barrel for an episode concept and overly simplistic and clunky in execution.
If you saw this young three scenes stick in your head but I do agree with others that the episode itself is a c or less
While this episode's plot falls flat, the slice of life elements are great, and our cast feels like themselves to perfection. Too bad Sisko never gave Worf the "don't hit the ambassador" speech.
This is one of those episodes you really gotta be in a mood for in my experience. This time I was on my phone most of it, hope you have a better experience !
Very mediocre. It's amazing such a non episode would even make it past draft stage but I suspect the writers were stretched.
I'd rather watch this than Descent (I or II)!
Very TOS-esque episode, in my opinion, and that's both good and bad. The humor is a little broad, but I enjoyed the stuff back on the ship more than Picard's story here.
The biggest lesson from this episode is that Picard would not be very good working a crisis hotline.
