PATRON TIER LIST - TNG S6E19 - Lessons
What tier do you rate Star Trek TNG S6E19 - Lessons?
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I'm a simple man. Picard being happy? Call-back to "The Inner Light"? Continuity in his character growth? Him being fond of the experience he had? Him struggling to balance his sense of duty and his starting relationship? Him being casual with Beverly? Oh dear, this episode had so many good moments. Easy S-tier (for me, at least)...
For me, it's a B. Good episode, and Patrick Stewart is excellent as always. I'm a crier at anything, but I didn't with this one. The flute playing was beautiful.
I'm the same. I think it's a really good high-B episode. I love a lot in the episode, but didn't love it as much as the guys did.
Interesting. While most of the comments on YouTube seem to be positive, there are still a number of negative ones there as well, making the results seem at least a bit more mixed than they are here. I did not expect to be a low-end outlier when I rated this C, and I really didn't expect that over half of the people here would rate it an S, especially not when the previous episode, the far superior "Starship Mine", only got 6% S ratings. Granted, there are a couple of comments here that seem to indicate that your reaction elevated people's previous rankings, but even taking that into account, I would've expect the results to be clustered around A at the highest. I actually considered rating this episode a D, for the amount of enjoyment I get out of it, but I moved to C, because I feel like the actual quality is higher than that. But it's hard to sell me on romance, and the format of the show is just not conducive to this kind of story. It's nearly impossible to introduce a new character, have a convincing and emotionally resonant romance arc, and wrap things up all in the course of a single episode. It would work better to see a relationship develop over time, with them growing closer as they confront unrelated events. And sure, that's not the kind of show this is, but that also means it's not the kind of story this show is good at. Maybe it would've helped a bit if they'd at least have introduced her character in a previous episode? Failing to provide a more extended romance arc, the love interest at least needed something about her that made her particularly endearing. It's a difficult thing to accomplish, but there are television and movie characters who were immediately endearing to me, and while I have no issue with Daren, I also don't feel particularly attached to her either. And that's really the big problem with this episode for me: I'm just not invested in it at all, and as a result, I find it to be dreadfully boring. I honestly enjoy this episode less than some clunkers I think are significantly lower in quality, and the more I go on, the closer I come to talking myself into a D.
Reposting something from YouTube, from a post that's buried way down the page, so few people will probably see it (the negative comments tend to pile up at the bottom, probably because people are thumbs-downing them). I was curious, so I looked up how people ranked "Lessons" and out of the 4 sites I looked at it scored 21, 35, 104 and 114th (the last out of 176, and the others out of 168 -- the difference being whether the combined two parters).* Those rankings put "Lessons" in the top 13%, 21%, 62% and 65%, respectively, so it's a mixed bag between pretty good to rather meh. Those average out to 40%, putting this episode a bit above average, but still somewhat middling. The difference between those individual sites seems to mirror the differences in the comments on YouTube, where you have folks praising the episode but at least some others who are significantly less enthusiastic about it. *The median episode ranks 84.5 or 88.5, depending on whether it's out of 168 or 176. I haven't looked at the Patreon tier lists for all the other episodes of TNG, but I'd say this one here indicates a more favorable opinion of "Lessons" than any of those ranking sites I cited, or at worst, it's equivalent to the most positive of the four. That doesn't make it wrong, as consensus doesn't make quality, but it's just interesting to see where people differ on things.
I would love to see them REWATCH Inner Light. And see if it can hit S for them. Especially after Lessons.
you should check out their season 5 tier list video
Teen me who wanted Romulan and Borg fights didn’t have the patience for this one. Adult me with a lot more life experience thinks this is a definite S tier. So glad they didn’t kill her off at the end.
Typical Tng ending, no room for character growth throw the love interest away immediately, Reset back to business as usual Picard for next episode. Couldn't possibly have this love arc hit numerous concurrent episodes
This might have worked better if Nella was a season 6 recurring character (like Pulaski or Ro), with the love story spread out over the entire season. Maybe with a severe injury in one of the final episodes to make the end of their relationship even more tragic. As a single episode it's just another 40 minute love interest. A good episode for sure, but only a B for me.
S tier for me. To hear Picard play his alien flute again is awesome. Love this episode.
An absolute tear jerker of an episode. S-tier.
First time I saw it? B. When I rewatched it last year? High A. Watching it again with you guys? Supreme S.
Great concept and execution, glad they followed up on “The Inner Light,” fantastic performance by Patrick Stewart, decent performance by his co-star. Solid A.
Prior to rewatching it with you guys I'd have given this a high B, low A. Very solid, but after the rewatch, I have to concur, it's a spectacular love story or our beloved Picard, even if the ending is bittersweet. S tier
I give Lessons A.