PATRON TAKES - TNG S6E20

A for me. This very good for me.

I liked this one, mostly for the ending. They gave a reason why there are so many humanoids in the galaxy. I really enjoy it when the writers find a convincing way to explain something like this. We know nearly everyone is humanoid because there is only so much you can do with fx. But now there is a trek in universe explanation. Does it make sense to you that of all the races, the Romulans were the most reflective, pondering what this meant?

Here is one where I like the "execution" but I'm not completely sure about the idea behind it. Giving them a common origin and a reason for them to come together is fine, but something about these aliens just spreading themself around the galaxy doesn't sit well with me. But I DO like that little scene at the end with Picard and the Romulan.

I dont know why they needed an entire episode to explain why the makeup department cant make human actors not look humanoid.

This is the first episode of trek I ever saw as a kid and I found the alien's speech at the end so moving it got me hooked on the franchise. I also credit this episode with getting me interested in science - if only to discover how wrong the series was about most things. It's a little sad that that the alien lady is like - "Isn't life a gift! Try not to be cunts." And they're all pointing guns at each other.

Objectively it is not one of the TNG's best but I always really liked it.

Another episode that is probably best enjoyed on its first viewing. For as important as it is in lore, I feel like it doesn't get quoted or referred back to as much in Trek. Personally, I dig it. They give us ALL of the major players in one episode, and it's such a nice, simple explanation for 99% of aliens being people walking around with peanut butter on their head~

When Troi confronts Picard, it looks like she's considering whether to relieve him of command. She never says it, but considering previous times when Picard was acting weird and the crew tried to depose him, you could see it in her eyes.

Federation Archaeology primer: Stealing priceless artifacts and giving them to a friend: OK Stealing priceless artifacts and selling them: How unethical !!

I have always loved this episode, in that it is the first to have humans, Klingons, Cardassians AND Romulans assembled. In the TOS episode, “The Paradise Syndrome”, Spock introduced the concept of The Preservers, an ancient mother race that seeded thousands of worlds and, in my mind, we met a Preserver today! The hopeful ending between Picard and the Romulan Commander, who “got” the message, was Chef’s kiss for me. A-Tier.

The plot is stupid and the episode shouldn’t exist.

This one misses the mark for me, and is just a contract filler episode.

It's an interesting episode kind of outside the normal TNG orbit. It leaves me a little unsure how to actually rate it.

What do you think of out of all the would be allies and enemies that it was the Romulan Commander that appreciates the significance of the findings at the end of the journey? I found it ironic that Klingons are our allies, and the Cardicians, while aggressive, are also in the midst of brokering a peace treaty with the Federation... yet it's the longest running enemy of the Federation that get's it.

This one is a "Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda" for me. It just missed. Coulda been great with a bit better set up. Woulda been better with a bit better acting. Shoulda been better with more time to get me more connected to the great idea.

I hope AI-Videos are soon good enough that somebody can make Indiana Jones/TNG-Picard crossover-movies. I love the archeologist in the captain and would love to watch him for hours on adventures/expeditions in the Star Trek universe.

I think the idea was far to ambitious for a 45 min episode. Should have been a two parter... or even better: a TNG movie with 2 hours runtime

Fun episode and one of my favorites. I want to try the Klingon biscuit recipe.

It felt like the episode was trying to "explain" why everyone looks basically human with some cosmetic differences and why hybrid children are possible. I don't think this needed explaining, and the revelation changes nothing.

This was one of my favorites. TNG’s Indiana Jones episode. I like how, out of all of them, it was the Romulan who appreciated the discovery as much as Picard.

This has to be one of the biggest, most profound revelations in Trek lore that is naturally immediately forgotten for all time :-D A fun episode, though, with an ending that is better than average.

I hope the Romulan Commander wasn't whacked by the Tal Shiar for his facetime with Picard.

Professor Galen is kind of a manipulative jerk

I always really enjoy this episode and I appreciate how it’s the Romulans who offer that tentative olive branch at the end. It also gives an explanation as to how Star Trek species seem so easily able to intermix and reproduce… and an in-universe reason for why they’re overwhelmingly humanoid.

Great, WOKE,🤣 episode. I just love this stuff.

I like the Picard/Galen relationship but it adds a lot of gravity to an episode that’s supposed to be an “It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World” homage. The 2 tones kinda cancel each other out.

We are mixing personalities here, someone on a starship command track is not going to also want to be a dirt digging scientist. How much time does younger Picard have in a day anyway? As usual all the "neutral zones" stop mattering when we need the various races to be on the same side of it for plot reasons.

I liked the first half more than the second. An interesting little mystery came to a mellow, not all that exciting ending. I think they needed to study Indiana Jones a little about satisfying conclusions.

Although I really like the epic sci-fi concept, the aliens involved in the chase always felt a bit like caricatures, robbing the episode of its S-tier potential.

Interesting origin of all species in our story universe explanation that we was seeded eons ago which explains everyone being humanoid and with our different features being a result of the planets we developed on cardassians having almost reptilian style skin, Klingons having bone foreridges possibly for defense during evolution etc Fascinating concept

I find the concept of this episode to be pretty paint by numbers.

I like that Picard gets to cosplay as Indiana Jones for an episode. Solid episode

It does explain why so many species in Star Trek can interbreed, but it is a bullshit explanation, and I could have done without it. I’d rather just ignore the question of interbreeding and treat it as a fantasy element of the show.

This episode answers a long held question of why there are so many humanoid species in the galaxy in the most tedious way possible IMO. The ending though? Solid. Stuff is happening long term with the Romulans.

"That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works!" Though I like the "chase" involved in the mystery, this episode feels like it misunderstands evolution at a fundamental level, and raises WAY more questions than it answers.

One of my most re-watched episodes. Insanely fun "chase" with tidbits of jokes between them.

I liked this one, though I was slightly disappointed that the final message was not, in fact, a recipe for biscuits.

This is one of my favourite episodes of the show. It has a pretty colorful cast of guest characters, and the race to find this ancient knowledge keeps the episode engaging throughout. But what I really appreciate about it is that when it turns out to simply be a message about how all life is connected, the only ones apart from the Enterprise crew who take that message to heart are the Romulans. It ends the episode on that hopeful tone 90s Trek was known for. S Tier

I want to like this episode, it’s what Star Trek is all about, understanding that we are all technically the same (humans in makeup!) but it’s a little boring in the middle and by the end my interest disappeared completely.

I like the continuation in exploring and focusing on a primary trait of Picard, last episode, his music, that which connects to his soul, and now history and archeology, that which resonates with his almost child-like passion. Damn I love Picard. As for the ending, I like how this explains why so many alien races look similar, they are all connected, rooted back from the same seed, planted galaxy-wide millennia ago. Beautiful.

I love this episode! A fascinating way to explain a few ‘in universe’ coincidences, whilst mildly commentating on real world prejudice and intolerance and following Gene’s original ideals. Throw in all our favourite Aliens, some solid performances and enough fun to keep it light, and it’s a great episode!

While I appreciate the effort to explain why so many species in Trek have similar body types, I had already thought that it made sense for that body type to naturally develop on many planets across the universe because it obviously lends itself to thriving as a species and eventually developing advanced linguistics, tools, and technology.

I remember being fascinated with this episode when I first watched it as a teenager. I'm hoping it holds up!

Now you get to know how hard Data's head is. Nu'Daq definitely found out.

S! For filling in so many plot holes. This explalns why we are genetically compatiable with Vulcans and Klingons. We are all engineered to evole toward the same form. Been watching you guys since early TOS. Very enjoyable discussion.

Galan's actor, Norman Lloyd was 79 when this episode was aired. Born in 1914, he was in Alfred Hitchcock's "Saboteur" in 1942. He died in 2021 at the age of 106.

Not as much fun as “Starship Mine” but still an enjoyable adventure.

This is the writers explaining why most of the aliens are humanoid, if not just humans with markings on their face.

I like this one and the final scene of the episode is a great one.

A fun adventure episode, except for Galan dying, that also has some great Picard moments and a true Star Trek message at the end. First time all major races on screen at once?

My only complaint about this episode is that it’s not long enough. Would loved to have more time to really dig into the other characters more. Kudos for seeing the first adult Cardassian woman. The ending is a good message that Roddenberry would be proud of. Thoroughly enjoyed the performance of the unnamed Romulan commander. To this day I remember his dialogue. “Perhaps, one day…”. A for “adventure!”

This is a B for me, lifted there mostly by Patrick Stewart's portrayal of Picard geeking out over the artifact. Decades later it's the part that sticks with you.

I’m a major nit-picker but the sudden ability of tricorders to project perfectly stationary holograms is my only complaint.

I hate these kind of "cannon correction" episodes that do nothing but try to explain away the budgetary constraints of the show. No characters, no story, and worst of all, a pink goo lady reading you some dudes star trek wiki article at the end. Yeah let's just take away all the mystery of how this universe and all it's species came to be because we're a little embarrassed by the makeup. smh

This should have been the two-parter and not Birthright.

a few nice working things out scenes, but this is a very plot episode, less a character episode, though the part with Data in 10 forward was fun.

This was one of my favorite episodes of this season. I just liked it.

Not the best idea TNG came up with.

In TOS, the explanation for the similar humanoid species is that the Preservers spread humanoids across the galaxy (the native american episode). TNG is now giving a different explanation that it’s from a common ancestor. Which explanation do you like better?