UNCUT - Move Along Home (DS9 S1E10) | Star Trek Journey 258

This episode is close to unwatchable for me. I just couldn't watch it again so skipped it this time. I've seen it 9 times and I hated it every time.

DS9 sex scoreboard catch up version This is way to ridiculous to be considered for a serious post like "The Sex Scoreboard." (kinda says something don't it) No scores The sex score board Chief 1 Keiko 1 Quark 1

The one and only thing I enjoy about this episode isn't even in it - it's when I realized the aliens arrived knowing about Quark's, even though their only previous contact before coming through the wormhole was a Vulcan ship. Which means some random Vulcan told them "Oh man, you guys gotta stop at Deep Space 9, they have this great casino-and-hookers bar called Quark's" while all the other Vulcans silently made a mental note about this person's next performance review.

Holy shit I hate this episode. Every after rewatching years later it still sucks.

One of the two worst episodes in the show. This is basically rock bottom.

The show, writers and actors all are still looking for who they are at this point. But trust me, when they find themselves, this show soars.

This episode is awful

I couldn't do it, boys. I tapped out.

As others have said, Colm Meaney was off shooting a movie (The Road to Wellness if I remember correctly). They do explain this in a previous episode; it's Keiko's grandmother's 100th birthday.

Yes, the Major Federation races would have starbases in their system, but they wouldn't be "deep space" stations, as the Federation Core is "relatively" close to each other as opposed to Bajor (which I think takes about two weeks at warp 6 to get to from Earth)

In the TOS tribble episode, wasn't the base near Klingon territory called "Deep Space something"? I'd assume there are other "deep space" bases, though they would have been what was considered "deep space" at the time. The idea is the Bajoran system and the wormhole, not far from cardassian space, is "deep" relative to the Federation core of Earth, Vulcan, Andor, Tellar, etc. Later on you guys can look at official star charts to get a sense of where things are whic becomes relevant in this series, for now though those charts would be spoilerish.

so apparently, the idea behind this episode was much more elaborate set pieces with the game, but they didn't have the budget for it and had to scale it down.

Allamaraine! Count to four! Allamaraine! Then three more!

I've been eagerly awaiting this ep since Menage a Troi. Only 1 or 2 eps in each series are like This, they're to be treasured

This might be the only time I've enjoyed watching this episode. Not because of the episode, but because I couldn't help but laugh along with you guys! 😂

I dunno where it fits into the numbering scheme, but before this we had the original Enterprise visiting "Deep Space Station K-7" in "The Trouble with Tribbles. As for the lack of 'Obrien, Colm Meaney apparently had it his contract that he could have time off to film other projects, which he apparently did this season.

I will say, one of it's saving graces is that it highlights that Quark isn't a total bastard. Dude is driven by profit, but here he can't bring himself to, in his mind, kill someone. There's a heart somewhere down there.

I would probably compare this to TOS The Alternative Factor. It just keeps going and going until you're glad it's over. Thanks for suffering through it. You actually made it fun to watch. 🤣 ❤️

Glad that’s over. Definitely a low point for the series but - after all these years since it first aired, most people reference the “hopscotch” scene as the most egregious moment in the episode, when now (thanks to this reaction) we can all agree that it’s the scenes on the cliff. Thanks for that, guys! You could cut about 90 seconds out of this episode and it would make it terrible instead of horrendous. There are a few good character moments to hang your hat on though. Let’s move along now shall we?

Honestly, I don't think it's a bad episode until after the hopscotch scene. The doctor forgetting his dress uniform was kind of stupid, but it's not a deal breaker. The intro with the alien is passable. Generic until then, but nothing horrible. Them liking games is a neat idea. But from after the hopscotch scene until the end, it was just terrible schlock.

One of the very few DS9 eps I skip on rewatches

Colm meany had a pretty big film career and they let him do films

I couldn’t even watch this one judt terrible, fortunately it gets a lot better

This was by far the worst episode of s1. It was a tuff slog

To add something besides Episode Bad to the comments chain, Alex I will answer your questions about Space Stations. Star Bases are the standard regional bases that serve as regional command centers for Star Fleet alongside commerce hubs, ship repair facilities & defensive positions for regions of the Federation, being planet side facilities paired with space Stations & orbital platforms. The Deep Space series of Space Stations act as more substantial outposts outside of Federation Space in deep space acting as small island harbors for Starfleet vessels in deep space that can provide resupply & safe rendezvous points alongside points of commerce. & of course there are many more types of space stations filling out various roles in the Federation run by Star Fleet, planetary governments, or even private organizations

This is one of a few episodes from season 1 that I feel just makes the crew look dumb and incompetent. As you said, the TNG crew would have figured a way out somehow. This crew was just completely at the game's mercy, and they didn't even learn anything from it all. Episodes like this are what turned people off from DS9.

If anyone puts together that great moments from bad eps vid, Up the Long Ladder actually has a few. My vote: the exchange from the guest clown and Worf about the “bloody lightning bolts” of the fire control system. Clown: “What if I had been standing under there?!” Worf: “You would have been standing in the fire.” Clown: “…what would’ve happened?” Worf: “You would have suffocated and died.” YES!! WORF!!

Funniest episode so far. You’ll get it much much later in a another Trek Show perhaps!😁🤣

The Shit Sandwich episode of DS9

Between Alex’s look of absolute disgust throughout and Josh’s many faces of bewilderment, you guys had me crying with laughter

I have always hated that cave scene with such a weirdly strong passion.(Way more than Alemaraine)In my opinion the worst part of the whole episode. Thanks for validating my opinion with your reaction.

Man. When it gets to the hopscotch scene, you can see every one of the main cast wondering if they're in for literal years of this shit. Not a good episode, but at least we're past it.

I was hoping someone would ask if they preferred this or Shades of Grey.

How is the 3 eps a week schedule going? As much as I appreciate it on an episode like this, hope y’all (Josh) don’t burn out trying to catch up.

Yeah....this episode... I think they even took a jab at it at the end of the DS9 doc, forgettable other than remembering it as maybe the worst of the series haha. The first and one of the few I don't really care for but yeah definitely feels more TOS haha. Makes me wonder when it came out in relation to Jumanji...

I haven't seen in episode in decades because I usually skip it. Wow! I was laughing and crying simultaneously at the hopscotch scene. It's so bad!

The ONLY reason I’m rewatching this piece of garbage is to see your reaction to it.

Make it stop!

The ONE positive comment about this episode is the show of Empathy by Quark. Otherwise it was voted in 2016 by fans as the WORST episode of DS9 and Avery Brooks said it was his least favorite episode

This episode of all things was nominated for an Emmy....for Best Hair Styling....I kid you not....

It wasn't a matter of "booking" Colm Meaney. He was a series regular, but he was permitted to take leave for movie roles.

One hopes the dog from Acquiel had scattered the game board pieces from Move Along Home

This is embarrassing. And offensive. Honestly, I'm pissed off that this happened. This is an actual episode of an actual TV show. Fucking ridiculous.

Colm Meaney I believe was trying to get more movie gigs at the time, which would be the reason for his absence. I have to be double checked on this though.

Okay, I've only watched the first minutes until the opening credits so far... The discussion about O'Brien's absence made me laugh: Yep! That's the right mood for this episode! I think the reaction will be better than the episode itself! ... So, now we continue ;)

Whenever I drive past a particular highway sign for a town in WI, I scream "Kettle Moraine"!

I have to confess I skipped ahead to the discussion after about 10 minutes. For me this is only the *second* worst episode of the series, but it's excruciatingly awkward and cringe-inducing to sit through in a way that the actual worst episode isn't.

To answer your question at the start, yep, the inference is that there are other deep space stations out there. In TOS Deep Space Station K-7 was the main one referenced, but there are occasional passing references to others, including more of the DS series, in other Star Trek series, keep your ears looking and your eyes listening, you'll smell em.

Ouch. That rockcliff scene is way longer than I remember. They were clearly out of ideas near the end.

This is one I normally skip.

Colm definitely read the script and suddenly had a "family emergency" to attend to or something.

I forgot how bad this was... ew.

I forgot how the characters didn't seem like themselves, really. It was like they got a very quick five word description of characters. One thing that always sticks out to me is Kira with her "Maybe you explorers like this, but I'm a Bajoran administrator!!" A terrible line made worse by the apparent direction just being "You are angry."

I was tempted to skip ahead to the discussion, but felt it was my duty to Suffer Along Home with Josh and Alex. Every time I watch this episode, I die a little more inside.

about the question in the beginning: i dont remember when or where or what number, but i am certain i remember correctly that someone has mentioned another Deep Space (number) station before.

I've noticed a trend -- if the reaction length is 1 hour or less it's bad -- if it's longer then 1 hour and 5 minutes it's good, anywhere in the middle and it's meh. On to the episode itself, as others have mentioned this is probably the worst DS9 episode, and it's campy (and not in a good way) and down right annoying with 5 minutes of that girl chanting alamaraine. Thankfully the sky's the limit on the series from here.

This was a "We don't know what this show is yet" episode.

E tier, should have been "Move Along Waste Basket"

I had only seen a few episodes of DS9 before watching with TA....But I unfortunately remember this one.... I think this one popped up multiple times was it played in syndication a lot for some reason?

We finally got to the episode everyone can’t wait to skip! Still fun to watch other suffer through it though lol. 😂

Most say this is the worst episode of DS9. Quite possibly is, though a couple of others get brought up as well. To me, it's somewhere in the 'bad' to 'meh' range.

A wild Cube mention has appeared . Likely will not be the last. IYKYK

I know how unpopular this is with most people, but i love it. It's a fun episode for me, i love this game. A tier!

Now that this episode is over it can and will only go up from here on. This episode is probably the only E-tier for me in all of DS9

As I understand it, the reason Chief O'Brien disappears for episodes at a time is to allow the actor to go film movies and whatnot. Apparently he was a busy man in the '90s. Bummer for the show, but he's still in it plenty, and at least it was to help the actor out instead of just neglecting to use the character.

Well gentlemen you made it. You survived what is considered the worst episode of DS9. I know it’s been said many times, but don’t be discouraged by some of these early missteps, this show certainly finds its footing.

Now you know why 'Allamaraine' was a meme. And that's pretty much what remained of this.

Haha you poor bastards

To think that Terry Farell would’ve been in TNG’s “Birthright” had it not been for her being unnecessarily used in the later half of this episode is a huge shame.

It's not a great one, but it suffers from the same issues Star Trek 5 faces, a lot of angry fans who scream about how bad it is. But it's just, not great.

Well thankfully its now in the books and we can forget it ever happened.

I feel like this is one of the biggest if not THE biggest hurdle of an episode of DS9.

I don't know how much of an answer would be a spoiler, but besides space stations like K-7 in TOS and DS9, there are over 200 starbases--many of which are space stations--scattered around Federation space. Log entries have mentioned them many times.

I agree with your observation with 1 caveat: very season 3 of TOS-esque. The Starfleet security lieutenant is a fill-in for O'Brien while Colm Meaney was away. Instead of move along home we should have just move along ... and kept moving.

I think you guys have probably definitely heard like DS6 or some number on TNG Measure of a man? Idk

I feel like I'm supposed to think that Move Along Home is that good camp shit, but I hate it. Am I not gay enough? Worrying.

Terrible episode. Worst of season 1. Worst of DS9? Sadly, no.

This is the kind of episode everyone who says s1 isn't great is referring to. Also, I'm fairly sure the first episode Chief was missing for, they said he went to earth in a station log.

Move along home…move along home…now that’s an episode I’ve not watched in a long time… a LONG time. 🤦‍♂️ This episode actually hurt the shows ratings(for some unfathomable reason, they hyped/promoted the hell outta this episode on shows like Entertainment Tonight. 😳). It had the shows highest ratings up until that point…followed by a drop after. I’m glad I didn’t write the show off after…but I think I wrote this episode off(this rewatchalong might be the third ever viewing for myself. Even when I bought each new season on dvd in 2002, I think I skipped this episode when doing a binge watch). Here’s to much better to come. 🥳

You know what the best TOS comparison is? Shore Leave. They beam down to this planet to relax, and the whole crew is placed in all sorts of mortal danger, Bones is seemingly killed, and by the end it's revealed to all be harmless. The main difference being that was a great episode. Still, I don't outright hate this one. I'd actually rate The Passenger lower since that one was actually trying to be a serious story. This ep knows it's ridiculous and it embraces it. That still only gets it up to like a C- for me. I gotta say though, the last thing I expected to break you in this episode was shimmying across a ledge. Best part of the reaction. I think the reason I go easier on this episode than most is that it's ultimately harmless. None of the characters really come out of the episode damaged in the eyes of the audience. Maybe you could argue Dax saying she would leave Sisko, but I always read that as her giving him an excuse to leave her. Quark I would argue actually shows a bit of altruism is foregoing profit to try and keep the players safe. Yeah, the groveling scene was over the top, but it's pretty clear he doesn't want to see anyone get hurt. My main example of an episode that damages a character in my eyes is Requiem for Methuselah. Yeah Picard was the instrument used to kill 11,000 people at Wolf 359, but he didn't have a choice, so it doesn't harm the image of his character. But in RfM, Kirk puts the one thing that should be his only concern(the 400 crewmembers on the Enterprise who are hours from a horrible death) on the backburner for something as trivial as trying to steal an old man's sex bot. A bit reductionist maybe, but Rayna wasn't being mistreated and didn't need saving, and even if she did, is that worth letting 400+ people die? Kirk should have been run out of starfleet for that. It's not a terrible episode, but I hate it because it ruins the character of Kirk for me. Move Along Home is just silly, but it's harmless.

what a TURD

If I were to rewrite this episode, I'd have it so that the Wadi offer the crew the chance to play a game as a first contact cultural exchange, and then have the crew go in *willingly* for a fun, low-stakes puzzle adventure, exploring a new culture and learning more about our crew

Right there with you guys, right there with you...oof!

Cringe has a new name: Move Along Home! Other than a couple of decent sets and camera angles, this episode is unwatchable. Unbelievably bad (over)acting by our main cast, and a story in which the stakes are completely negated at the end. Bleaaah.

I think you can see Avery Brooks dying inside and wanting to contact his agent during the Allamarene sequence

This one made me quit DS9 for 2 years. Glad I came back but fuck me this is bad.

This is the episode people refer to when they say DS9 first season is bad. It’s hard to argue against it but in the right frame of mind (probably drunk) it could be fun. I do like Odo and Quark in it tho Is it the worst episode of s1? Yes. Is it the worst episode of Trek? No.

Allamaraine, it’s way too slow. Allamaraine, the stakes are low. Allamaraine, the Chief’s not there. Allamaraine, an E seems fair.

In all honesty though, it was kinda silly fun the first time you watch it. Felt a bit like something TOS would have done. I think it's the tonal whiplash to most of DS9 that gets people.

Well, that's finally over and done with.

I appreciate that your reactions to bad episodes are still fun to watch despite the episode quality. Laughed so hard at the cliff part with yall

This could have been so good. Instead of the strange lights and the endless rocks do more creepy things like the second room. It could have escalated and became more horror or existential. When I first watched this the girl singing was the trippiest part, because that is where I thought they were going based on sci-fi themes at the time.

This is widely considered the worst ever episode of DS9. Personally, I think it's probably second or third worst.

This one is so bad I don't even know if I want to watch YOU watch it!

Brooks named this as his least favorite.

Probably the best Star Trek episode ever....FOR ME TO POOP ON!

If I remember correctly, Colm Meaney was shooting a movie, that's why he wasn't in a stretch of episodes. (He was in several big movies of the 90s, usually as a bad guy.)