PATRON TIER LIST - TNG S6E10-11 - Chain of Command
What tier do you rate Star Trek TNG S6E10-11 - Chain of Command
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High B for me. Overrated episode but still pretty strong
Hated Jelico, C so far, definitely not one of my favorite episodes. I’ll upgrade it to a B because of part 2, but no higher.
I mean S, obviously. How could it be anything else?
S-tier, without a shadow of doubt. David Warner and Patrick Stewart are superb, as is Ronnie Cox. When the Federation is potentially on the brink of war, Riker acts like a spoiled brat when asked to do his job. Doesn't he realise he's the first officer on the flagship of the Federation in a military organisation? His smugness is actually quite grating. Troi looks 10 x better in a standard uniform, and looks so much more professional, although I did hear it's what Marina Sirtis was asking for.
Easiest S of the season.
who would rate this C-tier? And yet there we have it.
I wanted to force Dick Cheney to watch this episode on an endless loop during the second Iraq invasion. Only gets more poignant as time goes on
s tier for me but so hard to watch - the image of the child being exposed to the torture stays with me and speaks volumes - such amazing work by all
Jellico seems like he's trying to be made out as a baddie with his decisions. But he simply showed how lax of a command Picard really ran in some ways. I'd rather go to war with Jellico, tbh.
He’d certainly get you killed faster than Picard would.
I was always surprised that the fish wasn't supposed to be holographic
At some point, Stewart had the fish removed as he is animal rights proponent and he didn’t believe enlightened Humans would trap animals in an aquarium.
You tell me, what is wrong in these episodes. I don't like Jellico, because Ronnie Cox did his job. The story, almost 90 minutes runtime, flys by. All of our constant cast members hand in perfect performances. To top it all off, an adversary that isn't weak or dumb.
This used to be an A or even a B for me, because I couldn't get over the fact a starship captain and some random medical officer would be sent on a covert operation all on their own. They are NOT professional spies!!!! And the four lights stuff is ripped straight from 1984. But upon rewatching it multiple times it has grown on me. Part 2 in particular is incredible and the acting throughout is phenomenal. It deserves nothing less than an S.
Good episodes. I rate them 4 lights out of 5 🟡🟡🟡🟡⚫
S-tewart CardaSSianS Goodbye fiSh Seat of my pantS fun S for me
What would the rest of DS9 be without this episode of TNG. Really hit the villain button hard on Cardassians. No more telling. All showing
Where is the YouTube video? I guess you'll release it tomorrow. I hope so
My guess is they're doing it as a single vid, presumably the same with the Emissary which we know is on Friday, so probably only two videos this week, but as those represent 4 episodes worth of Star Trek, that's obviously more than average!
The thing keeping this out of the S tier for me is my standard for what goes there. That standard is "Can I put this episode on and watch it over and over, or choose it randomly, over and over?" There's probably 15 episodes that are in that range... not this one. In fact, it's a high B for me, simply because without the "There are 4 lights" and the final revelation to Troi, there's not much else I WANT to watch in the other 1.5 hours. Just like many of the TNG 2-parters, the 1st half is just a C.
I get what you're saying and I know a lot of people that use re-watchability as a measure of a show or movie, but I don't b/c I rarely re-watch movies. I certainly have some, but I've only actually watched Schindler's List once, but I also think it's a fantastic movie.
Perfect writing, perfect acting, perfect directing, perfect casting. But there are 5 categories and one is blank. E-tier.
Great episode and easy S tier. I love Jellico as a change of pace to a captain that isn't crew friendly and a lot more authoritarian. He has a different style, but accomplishes everything he was sent there to do and not only succeeds, but succeeds so well that it is hard to see how he could have done better from a mission perspective. Riker looks childish in comparison by how he reacts to Jellico's refusal to put Picard's safety above the mission.
This is always going to be a S for Stewart goes full theatre mode. Also despite how it always looks a Captain is not there to be everyone's friend. They're there to make sure stuff gets done. Jelico is probably the most realistic captain in the entire show.
One of those rare episodes where even S-tier feels inadequate.
“are you S-hitting me?! “ S tier all the way.
Look at all this gushing from the four lights sheep. Psht.
S tier. Captain Jelico gets a bad rap. He was just trying to get the Enterprise and it's crew ready for war with the Cardassians. Riker didn't like that a new Captain comes on board and laying down the law. A new Captain a new way of doing things. He didn't have time to let the crew get use to him, he needed to get the ship ready for war. Rike was use to doing things his way. Riker met his match with Jelico. Jelico reminded me of a real Starfleet Captain like Kirk.
One of the more interesting things I have ever read about Star Trek was from a former military officer who went into detail about how he had had commanding officers like Jelico and that they were always essentially failures because they lost the respect of their troops. He also talked about why on the basis of his knowledge and experience he said that a high stakes, brink of war situation would be the *worst* time for a new CO to come in with a change everything, my-way-or-the-highway approach and if I remember right discussed real world scenarios where this had been tried and how it had gone badly.
Great two parter. Jelico was a pain in the ass but likely a more realistic captain.
There are 4 S’s on this two parter!
There are 5. I don't know how you could be so mistaken.
Not only an S, but one of Patrick Stewart's most exquisite performances. And a really interesting, nuanced guest who is part allly and part villiain -- bravo to Ronny Cox for his performance. And perhaps best of all -- we finally get to see how damn good Troi looks in a regulation uniform!
Not exactly a close vote. Lol
S, baby, as in Super performanceS and Super Story.
I give the two-parter as a whole an S, but would also give an S to both individual episodes. One of TNG's best moments!
E tier. Can't stand this one. ;)