PATRON TIER LIST - TNG S6E1 Times Arrow Part II

S tier for both parts 1 & 2 for me as well.

I love both I + II. S Tier. It's a camp western time travel romp full of cheese and the origins of Picard and Guinan's deep relationship that crosses centuries and timelines.

Obviously the producers were looking at the writers and were like "hey we got all these old timey sets on the paramount lot, lets save money and use em". The writers tried to have fun with that but ultimately a real waste of a 2-parter. D.

It's good that the Twain character was annoying. The man was a satirist. He's supposed to scratch your nuts.

Solid D. Mark Twain is the only really entertaining part of the whole pair of episodes, and the only part keeping it from being an E for me. It's a definite skip on rewatch.

It's not great and there is that one guy being annoying as Mark Twain throughout the entirety but at least they cleared up the yawn Fest that was part one

I agree that Simon Clemens is a rather grating character. But one character I don't like that much doesn't detract from an episode that is otherwise really fun, so B tier for me sits right.

A tier for me. I love Time's Arrow both part 1 and part 2. I still find it wild that I seem to be in the minority on this, but nevertheless respect your reasoning for why it doesn't appeal to you.

It’s a C or D for me. Interesting premise and a weak execution.

This is one of the most ToS TNG episodes, and it shows. Pure contract filler. It's just so baffling why they'd make it a two patter season finale like they did. It could have easily been a one episode mid season story, and it would have been just fine, but they gave it a position to be compared to stories like Best of Both Worlds, Redemption, and Chain of Command.

As much as I like the conversation between Twain and Troi, I have to settle on C. There's too much disregard for altering the timeline, and they just create an alien race that can go into the past and wipe out humanity (or anyone else) anytime they please. I think Josh and Alex had a point though. If this had been S2E22/S3E1 it would have been remembered as better than it is. (not to mention, it would have eliminated both of those current episodes).

I don't disagree with any of the criticisms leveled at the episode. It's very dumb. Very silly. I love it. S.

I think it's fun. Not great. I'm fine meeting Samuel Clemmens OR Jack London, but both is a little too cute.

Way worse than part one. Even if I hadn't read an interview with Jeri Taylor in which she said they had no idea where the story was going after the cliffhanger, it's pretty obvious just by watching part two. They don't even get into the motive of why these Aliens are doing what they're doing or why they picked this particular time period on this particular planet. I like part one, but I hate part two. E tier

Here's the facts : I don't go out of my way to rewatch it ever. If it's on tv, I probably won't skip. The verdict is in - C

I had a roommate in college who thought Star Trek was the dumbest thing ever. He walked in one day and sat down while I was watching Time's Arrow II. He witnessed Clemons cave spiel and jumping into the time portal. He didn't say a word. Got up and walked away. I think about this often. It's an 'A' for me.

B. Obviously not a classic like BOBW. Just a very entertaining timetravel episode that doesn't take itself too seriously, It kind of reminds me of "Back to the Future". The Twain Twaddle overdose is a bit much though, that's why it's no A.

I wish there was a scene with Guinan and Twain aboard the Enterprise.

A for me. Def has flaws but so many great moments it still shnes.

No different than THE YOUNG INDIANA JONES CHRONICLES.

It's a contract filler. Too much of the episode took place off-screen. How did Picard and Co. get their 19th Century clothes? How did they secure a room from Mrs. Carmichael? I've seen time travel done better elsewhere in Trek. C-tier because I know they could do better

Objectively, it's a solid B. When I factor in nostalgia, it's either an A+ or an S-.

Definitely a contract filler for me. I like it well enough but compared to other two partner episodes, well, it doesn't.

Solid B, had the Twain character been less irritating it moves into an A for me. For those aware of him and Jack London's writing it's a nice bonus. But for those who aren't (and many who are!) it's nigh impossible to get past the portrayal of Twain here.

Times Arrow could have been a lot better if the writers had done one thing. Remove the Mark Twain character. It still wouldn't have been great but it would have been better and here's why. The Twain character was cartoonish. He overhears Data and Guinan talking and immediately believed everything they were saying. Mark Twain was a master of human behavior but showed no skepticism whatsoever. To me, Twain became a silly and annoying character that detracted from what was a mediocre time travel episode to begin with. Times Arrow was the worst of all the Trek two-parters.

When this episode came out, I was still flying high from reading Jack London and Mark Twain books in high school... for fun! and multiple times. Seeing those characters in TNG was huge to me. Plus "time travel" hadn't been used to death in movies, tv shows AND Trek yet, so ... that element too, made me look past how the story is just ok. I mark it a C now, an A when it came out.

I have always been fond of this episode. I love it, it’s whimsical and fun definite A from me

Execrable two-parter.

Lots of great bits and pieces, I give it an A. If it held together more cohesively I might say A+

Time travel episode so an automatic b tier