UNCUT - Man of the People (TNG S6E3) | Star Trek Journey 237

One of the most sexist and misogynistic episodes in Trek, only outlasted by Code of Honour.

Entertaining episode, good score and a great performance from Marina Sirtis.

And now for next week…the excitement mounts!

Ugh right the one where they casually resort to euthanizing Troi and wait till the last possible second to try and reviving her🤦‍♂️ and worf is worse than a rookie cop with loosing his side arm like that

I think this is one of those episodes that doesn't hold up well on rewatches, which is one reason fans dislike it so much. It may be intriguing and even entertaining on a first watch when you don't know what's going on, but when you know the outcome it all just falls flat and comes across forced and shallow. Yes, as you pointed out, the execution was well done. Marina Sirtis gives a great performance and there are some really cool shots. But the story is uninteresting and makes for a tedious 45 minutes to watch. I don't know if I'd go so far as to say E, but it is definitely in the low tier of TNG episodes for me - probably bottom 10 of the whole series and one I typically skip.

When Troi goes into "evil counselor" mode, I actually find this disturbing because there are a lot of real therapists out there like that, and they do a lot of damage to innocent people. Unfortunately, toxic people like to get into positions where they can prey on the mentally weak and vulnerable. So what better place for them to be than in a position of authority where people come to them desperate for help, and can't tell when they are being gaslighted or otherwise abused? I wish we got a follow-up with that ensign.

Star Trek isn't something I watch for entertainment value. I watch it for good writing, good themes, interesting ideas, and optimism for the future. This episode is one of the worst written of the entire show. The plot makes no sense. The only reason to watch this is to watch Marina Sirtis have fun with "alternate Deanna" which personally holds no appeal for me. Because of the writing, bottom 5 of the series for me. Right up there with Shades of Gray for being a clip show, and The Outrageous Okona for being a bad Mary Sue fanfic.

The therapy scene is actually payback for that other lady telling Troi that she was “wrong, absolutely wrong” in that other therapy scene.

What a shocker. Troi gets mind-raped by another telepath for the 9001st time. Poor Troi. She did get some hellish revenge at the end though.

This is possibly one of the LAST episodes I ever "saw for the first time" (along with Darmok, Shades of Gray, and The High Ground). Can't say I missed much, although there are other episodes I would dread rewatching more. This kept my interest long enough.

I barely remember this episode, but rewatching it with you guys, my first thought was - couldn't the Enterprise have just fuckin' left? What's the range on this guy's empathic powers? Get a couple star systems away and see if he's still fucking with Deanna from there.

Hopefully we’ll finish season 7 before Alex realises that Josh only keeps him warm because people find him annoying and he boosts engagement in the comments.

Yeah, this one may not be E tier for me because Troi being horny and bitchy to everyone is at least entertaining, but it's solidly in D tier for me. I find the whole concept to be pretty trash and I just don't care about it, and they were really retreading some of the worst Troi tropes here. There's 1 other episode that isn't as bad as this, but it's just really boring, and I can't decide which is my least favourite of the season, but thankfully most of the season is pretty good.

If it makes you feel any better Alex, it's not just you. I don't like any of the people I regularly watch on YouTube.

I'm one of those assholes that had the temerity to point out the historical parallels with the end of the Cold War. So even though he hates me, lol, I'll be on team Alex. #teamAlex #teamJackLondon #teamRamenNoodles

LMAO, that's gotta be the best skit you've done in quite a while.

Alex, your feelings may stem from the fact that Josh has a very easy-going nature, while you exude a common man relatability. You share our insecurities, and what you may feel the comments are saying in subtext is just our own self-doubt reflected in your being, not that we dislike you. You are simply A Man of the People. (Though not at all a prick like the asshole in this episode)

It's not that we like Josh more, it's that half of us think Alex is Josh

Late comment. But I always wondered if Alkar's ship was attacked in personal retaliation for what he did to someone previously as a "receptacle."

That probably isn't a tan on Counsellor Troi. Although she is from England, Marina Sirtis is of Greek descent and would naturally have an olive complexion.

Troi getting screwed with. Feels like we have seen that before. Are we ever going to find a good Troi episode?

Since you already know it’s not a spoiler… I never realized that they used the name Janeway in this episode. Interesting. One of the producers must like it

I absolutely hate this episode, but I guess there are a couple of perks to watching it… 😏

Love the intro. Brilliant x)

So weird. The dude was on the ship for 5 minutes and then he’s doing Worf’s yoga class. Wtf?

Great f**in into.

TNG The sex scoreboard Oh yeah sexy Troi beboppin’ Riker 14 Troi 5 new Dr. Bev 3 Picard 3 Data 2 Ro 1 Worf 1 Geordi 1 Broccoli 2 i Chief/Keiko 1 Extra: Troi uses a boy toy like a…………… boy toy. Yes this is a score. Anytime a guy is putting his boot back on while sitting on a women's bed ALWAYS means some riding cowboy went on.

So glad you guys got a kick out of that therapy scene! That was always my favourite part of this episode!

This one's another of those campy guilty-pleasure ones for me. "Counsellor Troi has changed her appearance" is one of the TNG meme phrases a friend of mine and I will always dig back up. I love it when she goes full vamp and everyone's just trying to navigate Dark Deanna insatiable sexual appetites.

Did anybody else notice the Indian-Vulcan nurse??

This episode is one that doesn't seem like it's bad until you're rewatching the series and you find yourself going "do I have to watch this one?" And try to talk yourself out of skipping it. I like the premise of a selfish and self righteous person shoving negative energy away onto someone else but Troi getting the raw deal again is tiresome and I absolutely hate the effect of her turning young again instantly. On the plus side, Marina Sirtis is hot AF with that grey streak in her hair in Ten Forward

I loved the opening. Alex. I like you. You are cool.

Ha! Loved the intro

Just an OK episode I agree

D for stealing the concept from Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray.

They just should have hired a Vulcan for the negotiations and skip the episode.

Couldn't agree more on "Well executed. Poor material"

Troi and that ensign absolutely most definitely porked!

Alex not listening to Troi, smh, he'll end up getting a First Duty speech from Picard.

14:35 Good one, Josh!

Generic milquetoast episode. C-. At best.

Huh, I didn't get a notification for this one

Do we have to keep doing dodgy negotiator/diplomat stories which mostly involve Troi? Poor episode in my opinion other than Troi's transformation.

Head writer:"We need an episode for Deanna". Junior Writer: "How aboout we violate her get her posessed and horny?" Head Writer: "We did that so lets make her a complete bitch too this time"

lol Alex! these are golden. best part of a meh episode.

An episode about a smug manipulative asshole draining the lifeforce of others and using them uncaringly to advance his own career; we sure this isn't about Alex Kurtzman? Sorrynotsorry.

Counselor Troi Unleashed

Never know what to make of this one. It’s fun in the right frame of mind and Marina Sirtis seems to be having fun but yeah not the strongest episode by any means. Barely C tier

All of Troi’s love Interests are rapey from Devinoni Rao, violations guy, this guy, even Riva always sleeved me out might be the orange face? They also do a thing with great god like negotiators, Sarek, Riva, Odan.. like “they are soo good at their jobs no one else could do it.”

Roasted by Troi of all people. That’s like Worf losing a fight to a barrel.

I'm surprised you didn't have a strong reaction to that nightgown Troi was almost wearing when Riker came to her quaters. My jaw certainly dropped when I first saw it. I'd say we were even on the reaction to her scratching Riker's face and neck. All in all the intro you did was so worth it.

TNG if it had been written by Oscar Wilde (if you know, you know). Trashy C-tier fun for me.

Mother of the bride Troi is a severe hottie let's just all be honest about it.

Well now thats out of the way I can super impatiently await EP 4 now... Why is Thursday so far away?

10/10 intro! chef's kiss

How do you guys come up with these skit ideas? Good stuff. Troi really went hard on you Alex.

Troi is hot 🔥 in this terrible episode

OMG YES - now do a cutaway where Josh is the stud walking out of her quarters as Riker walks in.

I paused before watching any of the episode to say this is my favourite Bit you guys have done yet.

That intro was SO funny! Good work....