Deep Space Nine Pre-Series Discussion

I just wish it was about 18 months or so from now so I can sit back and watch you react to all my favourite episodes!😜👍

Alex and Josh KNOW. Take a look at the visible spine of the DS9 box set in the video. They KNOW.

Since Alex has watched Red Letter Media's earlier ST videos, I'm wondering if dormant memories of what Mike & Rich said about DS9 will re-emerge once he starts watching. Like him remembering Tasha's fate at the hands of the tar monster.

DS9 is the absolute best. The side characters are just as good as the main cast. Great series.

"As tempting as it may be; please no spoilers, hints, suggestions, reminders, warnings, clues, metaphors, analogies, or coded messages in the comments about DS9. Thank you." Comments: We choose to completely ignore this request!

When people say you'll love the *series* they mean it. As a more serialised show you will come away thinking about it as an organic whole not a set of "episodes".

Well, you are pleasantly clueless about DS9, so you haven't been spoiled by anything and everything will be a surprise, just the way you like it.

My prediction is you two are gonna LOVE S01E10 without saying anything more. I'm sure others have told you the exact opposite, which is why I'm positive you're gonna love it

Nice pre discussion. To most of the things you guys are saying I'm feeling the urge for evil laughter. Looking forward to it.

Oh, and also, I watched TNG and DS9 on a cable channel out of Cincinnati, OH back then. They aired back to back on Thursday or Friday Nights. I can’t remember now which one. So, like TNG would run at 8pm, and then DS9 at 9PM. We moved to N.C. in 1999. So the affiliate changed to FOX 50 out of Raleigh. They ran it on Saturdays. Our family still in OH would call us up & say, “Can you believe this happened on DS9?” And we’d have to say, “Hey, we haven’t seen it yet! No spoilers!”

I don’t have the DVDs, I have watched DS9 first run, in reruns, and now on streaming. When it was getting ready to come out, they had trailers and a short “intro” show that let us see snippets of interviews with the actors and their characters motivations. That may be on the DVDs. If it is, it would be a good Patreon discussion piece for you to watch to get ready for the show. Also, you’d be just as prepped as we were back in 1992 when it premiered. Just a thought. Can’t wait for you to watch DS9, it’s my favorite! ❤️

It will be interesting to see their reaction to the opening scene after listening to them talk about MCU showing different angles of the same thing.

love the intro lol

This video reminds me of the time Rick Berman and Michael Piller went on QVC to hawk Star Trek merch and promote DS9 before it premiered

A note- you really want to watch the pilot as one two hour episode because when its broken up into two parts, two scenes are deleted, one of which you will very much want to see

This is so funny (no spoilers) ;-)

Really looking forward to your takes on DS9! Might also be fun to jot some of your wishlists down when the S1 review rolls around and see how well or how poorly expectations/hopes lined up with the reality of the show.

*Frothing at the mouth as they talk about certain things* GAAAH! I want them to watch it already!

For what it’s worth, the DS9 has what’s generally regarded as the best pilot of any Star Trek series.

Always felt while the show got real good later on in season 3, I still felt ds9 had a stronger first two seasons than tng by far.

As some have said, there is the risk of being so used to the highs of TNG 4/5/6 that DS9 initially feels much worse. You'd obviously expect the early episodes of any series to be on average worse than the later ones as this is just how television series work, but I think that the leap in quality from the earlier episodes to the later in DS9 is orders of magnitude greater than the leap from early TNG to later TNG.

My prediction is that you will fall a bit into the trap that we did in the 90s. You will be watching season 6 of a well oiled ST series at the same time as season 1 of new series really trying something new. Also, Babylon 5 launched at the same time and caused some controversy. That led a lot of viewers somewhat tune out or complain about DS9 at the time. However, since you haven’t given yourself a choice to tune out, i think you will find yourself saying repeatedly that people that didn’t love this show were crazy, especially by modern TV sensibilities.

I've seen DS9 as a whole only once and that was a really long time ago. Looking forward to watching it again with you.

I have been looking forward to you guys starting DS9 since you got the set and said you were planning to watch it as well.

This was a great watch...after this pre-discussion and your thoughts about the show to come, I am very excited to see you experiencing it for yourself and how close/far off you were :)

Alright, upgraded for this show. I'm so ready for you guys to dive into this, and I think there's enough good episodes in the first season to hold your interest to get to the really good stuff.

Which one of you came up with this bullshit AND BRILLIANT idea for a video? I love me some theory crafting discussions.

I think you are going to enjoy it (not every episode of course) and you are certainly in for a real adventure.

I'm watching this and just chuckling, almost a couple of times spit my coffee out.

Ooh.... I didn't realize that you guys didn't know anything going in. I'm looking forward to seeing your early reactions, even more so than I was with TNG. For a number of these episodes, this will be the first time I see them as well; unlike TNG, I didn't see DS9 until much later on in my life, but it was before streaming, so I was at the mercy of when it was on repeats, and I had limited DVR space, so I only recorded those episodes that looked significant to me. Obviously I've seen the pilot, and other episodes here and there, but much of the first two or three seasons is still unexplored territory to me. So it'll be fun to undertake the journey with you on some of these episodes.

Without revealing any spoilers, these predictions never fail to give me a good chuckle!

On the run up to the airing of the pilot for DS9, there was a lot of press. Magazine interviews and covers. Coverage of Entertainment programming, tons of commercials. So it would have been difficult not to see who the cast was. At this time TNG is about to hit its peak sustained ratings. It's a really big hit at this time. So the marketing for DS9 was huge. And it worked. Its pilot is the most watched episode of any Trek ever.

DS9, TNG and VOY were not filmed on Video Tape. They were all filmed on film. Most of the VFX, Live action, ect. But they were all transferred to Video tape to make the editing process dramatically faster (primarily due to VFX), and as such thats where you lose a ton of quality. With TNG they just took all the original daily film clips from the show (pre edit) scanned those and then a full reedit of the episodes) and that allows you to see the actually quality of the filmed elements. The one exception is there are a handful of elements (some of the VFX) that were only created on video tape (ie things like phaser and photon effects, the VFX created for each planet). Those had to be completely recreated with modern technology for the remaster.

I'm jealous of how perfectly Alex's beard grows every month.

Take a drink everytime Josh or Alex suggests a plotline that Star Trek eventually uses. (But don't. You'll die. There's been a thousand episodes. Of course they've done something similar at some point.)

You cannot compare the first season or two of ANY series to the later episodes. Remember, every episode is informed by every episode that came before.

I skipped DS9, didn' t like the feel. After watching mutiple watch throughs of TNG, VOY and ENT I finally gave DS9 a chance... favorite by far, it's just the initial feel and the shitty first season but i comes so good. Also like many others my favorite characters were not even on the main cast (even though Sisko was my favorite Captain), it was the self confident evil one and the witty perpetually deceptive one from the same species. (D & G)

Back in the day I loved having two Star Trek shows happening back to back

The pilot is a lot better than the TNG Pilot lol!!

I love DS9 season 1 and 2 are hard pill to swallow but season 3-7 are amazing.

I didn't give DS9 a fair shot when it aired (or perhaps I did) and dropped it after they [troped] their way out of a very good episode, returning only for the last couple of seasons. I look forward to watching with the guys and seeing what I missed because from what I've heard and what I've seen it looks I missed some really interesting content.

Ds9 has always had a weird love/meh relationship with fans which always depresses me, it sadly just wasn't as popular back then. I'm so glad lately people have been rewatching it and realising what a great show they missed out on, it's my favourite so I'm excited to hear all your thoughts.

A lot of the things you said you want from the series, I think you're going to get in spades.

My favourite Berman-era series. Gets better and better as it goes.

From someone who's favourite trek is TNG, even I can admit DS9 is the best trek ever made

Just wanted to say I started watching DS9 for the first time back in December and finished it last month. And…yeah. It's very good. That's all I will say.

I never really got into DS9. I didn't watch it when it came out, and never felt compelled to because "Star Trek". I have since seen most of it (I think) though broadcast reruns. I think some of the plot approaches they took are interesting, but as a whole, it's meh to me. There are plenty of things about it I really don't enjoy, and I must be pretty sure about that since my mind hasn't changed on that in 20+ years. Some episodes remain entertaining, and some episodes are too cringe or preachy to get through.

I disagree with the people saying that the show doesn't get good until Season 4. Yes, as with all of the Berman Treks, 4-6 are peak, but Season 3 especially is right up there with them, and Seasons 1 and 2 are still pretty strong. Yes, those seasons are where you're going to find the majority of your duds, mehs, and wtfs. But they also have some of the best episodes of the entire franchise. And I personally think that DS9s best episodes are better than TNGs best, and that's high praise. I think the show actually finds its voice in the later half of Season 2. Once you're past that point, yeah, everything that came before it feels pretty green, but that's the case with TNG too, and it's the same thing with Voyager. All of the shows get better as they go on, and Season 1 is like the proto season where the character dynamic and the types of plots they want to tackle aren't quite right yet.

After hearing some of the stuff you guys just said i think you will love the pilot. I am expecting several 'woah no fucking way's' from you.Don't let me down guys😂

I am pretty sure that there will be many episodes you love, some you hate, and many more inbetween. I know my own thoughts on an episode don't often match yours (except for The Search For Spock, and Josh with Remember Me, as two rare examples.). So even though i'm confident you will love certain episodes, some i'm less sure of

All i will say i love DS9, i look forward to you watching. I repeat an earlier message i know you heard 1000 times about TNG, give it a few seasons to really get going.

I'm excited, I'd love to drop famous quotes, but I'll just say I hope you enjoy it.

You know less about DS9 than I thought you would. Should be interesting. You're ideas for premises are good. I hope you like it.

Dude. This is the mother fuckin sisko!

Will Alex and Josh get what they want of of DS9? New territories to explore, intricate character development with a larger cast including non-Starfleet personnel, stand-alone episodes with plenty of connective tissue forming a larger story, and more depth and lore added to the ST universe? Hmm....gues THEY will have to wait and see. But I think you guys are going to like this show.

GUYS! There's a "problem" you should be aware of... Be sure you are watching the complete pilot episode. I'll check later which one I saw was edited and post here. ... checked, if it is 2 episodes instead of 1, it is most likely edited.

For a lot of people, the correct answer to the 'Kirk vs Picard' debate is 'Sisko,' and they're not wrong. Sisko is even with Kirk for me for the best captains in the franchise. Those are 2 men I'd follow into hell itself if they were leading the charge.

You guys are some real a-holes putting this out while we still have to wait a month. 🤣

No spoilers, I just want to join the chorus of people who think you will like DS9.

I’m disappointed but not surprised about the overwhelmingly lukewarm response to DS9. For my money it is, all things considered, the best overall series in the franchise. A large main cast of very talented actors, whose characters are fully sketched, all of whom have major arcs that grow their personalities. After watching this, I feel confident you will both enjoy it immensely. I noted someone saying it doesn’t pick up until Season Four, but I strongly disagree. 4-7 wouldn’t be what it is without the first three. I just rewatched the pilot for the first time in a while and I had forgotten how good it actually is. I believe it is right up the guys alley. Good story. Good pacing. Great cinematography. Avery Brooks acting his ass off. Holy effin God Avery Brooks. Solid anchor to a stellar cast. I give the pilot episode an S. Edit: I feel I need to add that I am 64 and have been a Star Trek fan since I was 10. I will always love the original series. It will always have a special place in my heart. As does TNG. I by no means want to imply that those shows weren’t great, awesome, and beloved. It’s just that DS9 is the whole package. And wouldn’t even exist without the previous two.

REAL DS9 starts at season 4. You should just skip seasons 1-3.

Just a technical note, DS9 was actually shot on 35mm film, as was Voyager after it. I don't know why the misinformation that they were shot on video is so hard to kill. Both shows had the same basic production pipeline as TNG: shoot on 35mm, put all the usable footage on standard-definition video tape, then do all editing and post-production in SD video as well. (I won't post any links for fear of spoilers, but if you look up any behind-the-scenes photo from DS9 or VOY in which a production camera is visible, it is very obviously being shot on film, plain as day.) The reason there's no DS9 or VOY remaster is that those shows aren't as popular with the general public as TNG, and Paramount isn't willing to spend the kind of money on remastering them that they devoted to TNG. In all three cases, there is HD-quality raw footage, but the finished versions of the episodes only existed in SD, so remastering means rescanning all the film and re-editing each episode. For DS9 and VOY, it would be even more expensive to do this than it was for TNG, because in their later seasons they use a lot more CGI which was only ever rendered in SD. So all those VFX shots would have to be re-rendered, or even recreated from scratch if the original files don't exist anymore. Paramount just doesn't see a financial incentive to invest the money to do this.

I find it interesting that DS9 will end up being the only Star Trek show that airdate order prevents from ever seeing even one full season without also concurrently viewing another ST show. I love this for your journey, but having only watched it myself as a straight through show, I too am excited to see it interwoven with TNG S6-S7 and Voyager S1-S5 like people did initially in the 90s.

My wife and I watched DS9 when it first aired in the '90s. We liked it okay back then, but stopped watching after a few seasons, partly because (oh, no!) we preferred Babylon 5 at the time, which we were also watching and maybe we were just kind of tired of the Star Trek franchise. Plus, we had a kid (who is now older than you guys). But we rewatched the entire series over the last few months (I couldn't wait for you guys) and it's _much_ better than I remember, especially as it evolves over its run. Really looking forward to see your reactions.

Fun discussion. I remember being so excited for Deep Space Nine when it premiered (I was 10). Hopefully you're able to avoid having two many expectations going in, and watch it with open minds. Looking forward to it!

I watched the first 2 seasons of DS9 and couldn't get into it as much as the previous Star Trek series. I would occasionally catch an episode after that, and realized that I probably should have stuck with it longer because the episodes did seem better. I should have known and stuck with it longer. TNG was the same way: the first 2 seasons of TNG were so-so. 3rd season was where it really took off. It seems during the Berman era it took 2 seasons for each series to find its footing, and then they would get noticeably better starting in season 3.

*pacing intensifies*

The DVD season sets for DS9 were released starting in 2003, four years after the series ended. DS9 and Voyager are the only Trek series not available on Blu-Ray.

Thanks for milking this out for us, guys. Whether you fall in love with this show or leave it by the wayside or do something in between, I just hope y'all enjoy yourselves and dun let us Target Audience run you into the ground. That being said, everything that was stated in this discussion has be excited and hopeful. I'm so very glad you're doing this, and I hope you carry it all the way through Voyager and Enterprise (at least).

Honestly making these guesses and voicing your wants just makes me so curious to see how it all shakes out for you guys, I'm very excited DS9 is my favorite and I'm so happy to see people (hopfully) enjoy it

Oh dear, I’m not sure why everyone is getting anxious about this. DS9 is like any Trek show - lots of great episodes, lots of mid episodes and a sprinkling of hilariously bad ones. I personally prefer TNG but there’s not much in it to be honest. It’s all peak sci-fi!

I really enjoyed watching this and am so happy you did a preview like this. I did a lot of smiling during this. I hope you’ll do this again for Voyager and subsequent series.

There was a lot of promotional stuff for DS9 weeks before its premiere that spoiled quite a bit about the series. There was generally a lot of excitement for it that Star Trek would continue with a new series. We knew TNG would end and with DS9 coming in almost halfway through season 6, I assumed and I’m sure many others did that TNG would end after season 6 and we wouldn’t have two series at the same time for very long. I also read at one point in season 4 or 5 of TNG that the seven regulars had signed contracts for six seasons. So I definitely thought TNG would end with DS9 coming in.

It's great how completely unspoiled they are

I didn't like DS9 when it came out. After maturing and rewatching this 30 years later it is now my favorite Star Trek and its hard to say that because love TOS and TNG.

When DS9 aired I had no interest in it. It didn't feel like Star Trek. And from what I remember at the time I think a lot of current Star Trek fans of the 90s felt similarly. In that sense I suppose DS9 was ahead of its time and it has been appreciated more among "the next generation" of Star Trek fans than it was by the fans of Star Trek watching it live. (That's not to say there weren't fans of DS9 in the 90s. Obviously there were many of them. But in a lot of ways it seemed DS9 was viewed as the underdog of Star Trek shows. Star Trek but not Star Trek.) I was much more a fan of Voyager. That will be a different type of adventure when you get to it. I know Voyager had its flaws and there are missed opportunities and things it could have done differently. But if you keep it in perspective I think anyone watching it can appreciate what it had to offer, as well. But back to DS9, I have tried watching DS9 over the years but could never get through the pilot. It felt like such a jarring contrast from the Star Trek I knew. I finally made it through the full series a couple years ago and I will say that it has grown on me and I can appreciate what it has brought to the Star Trek world. It took some chances that really paid off. But I think there are a lot of "misses" throughout the series, too. It will never be my favorite series. In some ways I consider it to be overrated Star Trek. But it did some things very well. As for what TA will think, I am very interested to see how they adjust to this new series. There are some elements I think they will love right away. And there are other things that I think will really take them some time to warm up to, if ever. Just based on their TNG reactions I think there will be some things in DS9 that will be very off-putting. But as a whole I think there will be a lot of things in DS9 that is right in line with what they will like.

I think the pilot alone is going to blow you guys away. Imo, it's the best of all of the Star Trek series pilots, and it does a really good job of setting up the show.

"No coded messages" *Proceeds to learn to express Deep Space 9 in Morse Code* =P

tee hee hee hee 🤣

I'm a GenXer child of the 70s, when all I had of Trek was reruns of TOS, TAS, Franz Joseph blueprints, Gold Key comics, Mego action figures, and my imagination. I thought nothing could be better than TOS Star Trek. Then as a teen I fell in love with Picard and crew and thought for sure that Trek couldn't get better than TNG. Now thirty years later, DS9 remains my absolute favorite iteration of Star Trek. Though there'll be ups and downs ahead-- and I'm sure we'll disagree sometimes-- I'm excited to rewatch this with you guys!

As long as they remember to compare the first season with TNG’s first season(it which case it comes off much better) and not peak TNG, it’ll be interesting. A friend once mentioned that while there are exceptions, because TNG was in it’s prime, the writers that left to join the new show were risk-takers(gambling on the unknown over a popular program at it’s peak) where as Voyager was the writer’s that stayed until TNG was over and needed new work(and might be more tempted to play it safe). I don’t want to generalize, and I DEFINITELY don’t even want to risk possible spoilers. I am excited. 😁 I was lucky enough the first 2 seasons(and last 2 of TNG) to get to watch each weeks episode a whole week before anyone else. My grandparents(who lived next door to us as kids) had bought a satellite dish in the 80’s for free movies(one of the big 8 feet diameter ones),. But they moved it to the basement tv once HBO and the others started scrambling their channels(they were too honest to buy grey market descramblers to get around it), but I would go over sometimes to watch stuff on it. You could find some interesting things on it(I loved finding sports feeds direct from arenas before commercials are added, where they don’t cut away and you’d see the commentators relax on breaks and adlib and even swear). Around summer of 92, I found paramount TV’s syndication distribution channel(used to send shows out to individual stations for the week, usually reruns). They’d air 5(a weeks worth) episodes of “The Wonder Years” with no commercials, just a short “insert commercial here” prompt before the show came back, followed by several promos they could use to promote that episode. When fall came, I discovered that with Star Trek being one of the few shows to broadcast new episodes through syndication, every Saturday, one week before it aired on tv, they would send out that weeks new episode to all the stations that aired it! With no commercials and 4 or 5 different length promos at the end, it was my favorite discovery on the dish. While I didn’t see the pilot early(was in hospital for surgery and watched it on a 5inch hospital set), I got to watch each weeks new DS9 episode right after TNG without commercials a week early for 2 years. I had my own apartment and was working by the seasons after that, so I didn’t get to watch them early. But while it lasted, it was really special. 🥰 Sorry for long story/rant. It’s one of my favorite Star Trek related memories growing up for the last two years of high school, and I love reminiscing about it.

Hasn't everyone learned not to hype up anything to these guys? LOL.

Lmao spoilers about being thrown into the wilds of space lol.

Aren't you curious as to HOW they got your DNA? I am.

As a parent, there’s a certain level of excitement as you anticipate your kids’ reactions to Christmas morning. I’m feeling that for you guys.

I'm reasonably confident that you're going to enjoy the next few years of Trek watching. I'm excited for you to embark on this next phase of your journey!

Did I see Farscape on your upper shelf there? Have you already watched it or is it a future watch. I would be very interested in rewatching it with you guys. It's my favorite sci-fi TV after Firefly. The production quality of the sets and costumes is incredible for the budget they had. Anyways I'm looking forwards to rewatching DS9 with you, there's some very fun and interesting stories coming up. The production team for DS9 learned a lot from working on TNG and it made a big difference in the set design and the direction. Edit: I saw that you did react to the pilot 2 years ago, I'm putting a vote for continuing it, the pilot isn't indicative of the rest of the show.

"So, you want a realistic, down to earth show, that's completely off the wall and swarming with magic robots?"

Sounds like you've predicted some things, but got other things completely wrong.

Wow, based on how little you guys are saying you know, this will be very interesting to see how you react to it once the format and plot is revealed to you. Again, we obviously knew much more when it came out because even then, early press releases, etc, explained the plot and characters to a point. This will be fun to see!

When DS9 first aired I couldn't really get into it, but that was mostly because I wasn't able to watch every episode, which isn't a big problem with TNG, but becomes a problem with DS9 pretty quickly. Years later I finally binged it all completely and it was amazing.

So many times I wanted to yell out something that these guys said here. Either “you are totally wrong!” Or “you are totally right!” Or “you are right but not in the way you think!”

Y'all were saying so much shit that had me cackling. I'll just leave it at that.

At the risk of once again setting expectations too high: I’ll say one thing: DS9 is my favorite series, and definitely the best series from this era of Trek in my opinion.

My mom loved TNG and that's how I got introduced to it. I remember the previews for DS9 coming on after TNG episodes. My mom had no interest in them because she thought they looked "scary" or "ugly". By that I mean that she didn't like seeing species like the Ferengi. It wasn't until much later that I realized my mom's understanding of Star Trek was very superficial. She basically only watched it because she liked data. DS9 would have gone completely over her head. Luckily, years later, Spike TV started showing Star Trek reruns. I got to watch all of TNG finally. And after I had seen all of TNG, Spike started showing DS9. Thankfully mostly in order. They aired it in a way where I didn't have any major plot points spoiled. And yeah, I can definitely say from personal experience, going into that show completely blind is definitely the way to go.

I think I heard that these DVDs are the best quality for the show that we're ever going to get. For some reason, the show literally can't be remastered. Maybe they don't have the negatives, or it had to do with the way it was shot? But I heard that the only way to remaster it would be having most of it completely re-shot which they obviously can't do.

I think you two apes will definitely like a lot of episodes of DS9. It's a divisive show amongst the fandom and that's also going to be good for your channel and views. It expanded the Star Trek universe in ways that no other Star Trek show has or could. Part of me envies you guys for the material you're about to be exposed to for the first time.

I guarantee every single person here watching this video is having the exact same thoughts and reactions 😂 Dude, you guys, I'm pumped for you watching DS9.

I'm really looking forward to this! I'm amazed how well insulated you've been, there are some things I was sure you'd know but you don't seem to! As far as not spoiling each other, can you record a "confession booth" style thing?

As Monty Python says: "And now for something completely different".

I love how blind yall are going into this. This is my favorite Star Trek series and it has shaped me as a person more than I imagined.

Can't wait guys!

Regarding the expectations it was way different than before TNG. Then Trek was TOS and nothing else. At the beginning of TNG the show was even regarded as blasphemy by many fans. Me included for about the first two seasons. But about DS9 we knew it was at the same time as TNG. Literally and also in-universe. So we just were excited to get not one but two doses of our favorite drug every week. You have to be aware too that we didn't know at the time how many seasons TNG and DS9 will get and if Trek would go on after that.

The picture and sound of DS9 on DVD will be lightyears beyond what I saw on first view on broadcast TV and SLP (6 hr mode) VHS on a 13-inch color TV.

So I can tell you what my personal reaction was to DS9 airing. I was a 9 year old fan of TNG even though I didnt really "get it" the way an adult does, and was VERY excited for, as you said, TWO new episodes of Trek per week! Well, because I was a child with no taste, I completely disliked the superficial aesthetics of the show and did NOT get into it until years later on reruns.

First episode of DS9 has one of the best cold opens in star trek

I have so many cool and interesting things to say. This: XXXXXXXXXXX and this: YYYYYYYYYYY and this: ########### (sorry, all deleted for spoilers)

This is a show where I wish I could binge watch their reaction to the entire series right now.

I grew up watching TNG as it aired, and when DS9 started I always thought TNG was the better series. But now that I am an adult and I know more about storytelling and character development, DS9 is clearly the better series.

Christ. Reading though some of these comments I'm starting to think you guys may need to start putting your "no spoilers, no clues, no codes messages, etc." Warning at the beginning of the videos themselves. Some people here are either not reading or just dumb as the rocks that fly out of exploding consoles on Star Trek.

I saw DS9 very similar to how you’ll see it, reruns on FX during weekdays. Didn’t have to wait for weekly airings. I had just seen TNG and watched DS9 along with Voyager. DS9 really rewards you both as a viewer and as a Star Trek fan. Excited to discuss the show with you and see what sticks for people.

Frankly I am SHOCKED you guys are going into it knowing literally nothing - great work in avoiding everything. Gonna make it even more fun for the rest of us. Those of us who watched it when it was first aired saw tons of ads and commercials prior to the pilot so we still knew a lot back then. I envy your lack of knowledge!

Okay, keeping within the limits set for comments.....I will just say: 😎

As far as the picture quality looking like it did on 90s TV, yes and no. The DVDs look a little different due to how the video was 'rendered' I guess you could say for the discs, which gives it a slightly different look, and watching on a modern TV instead of an old 90s TV will alter it as well. On actual TV back then the picture was of course SD but smoother and no 'digitalness' that came with how they produced the DVDs. And I'd guess that smoothness also would be different regarding some fast-moving moments may or may not come off a little 'choppier' than they did on old TVs when it aired. But all things considered, it should still be in the ballpark of how it looked.

As bona-fide Star Trek fans that you are now, you will not hate DS9. Just as in previous iterations, there will be episodes that you will love and there will be WTF episodes. The journey is the fun.

I've been waiting since season one of TOS, now we're finally here... My fav TV show of all time 🥲

I can’t wait to see your reaction to DS9

I really prefer the Youtube edits with the discussions and all, but I'm torn between waiting for those or watching your DS9 uncut reactions immediately

For those asking if “X would be a spoiler…” Literally in the fucking post: “As tempting as it may be; please no spoilers, hints, suggestions, reminders, warnings, clues, metaphors, analogies, or coded messages in the comments about DS9. Thank you.”

so excited to see you watch DS9 - hope you love it as i do

So Josh knows a character that shows up that Alex doesn't? Alright...Can't wait to see Alex's reaction to that then 😉 This is my absolute favorite ST show and I think you guys will be pleased and I'm looking forward to you seeing for yourselves what you got right and wrong about it.. and whether you're happy about that.

My wife sadly passed away two months ago. This DS9 journey is one of only a few things I am looking forward to. I appreciate what you guys do.

*squeals in foreknowledge* What date will you post the pilot?

Ask, and Ye shall receive... Not going to say about what, but... yeah

Looking forward to watching DS9 with you guys. I have not seen every episode, so we may be in the same boat sometimes!

I can't wait for you two to see DS9!

The best tv series i have ever seen. And I've seen it a dozen times over. So hyped for this

based on your comments in this video, DS9 is gonna be right up your alley.

From this discussion, it's clear you'll be quite surprised at the broad strokes of the show (where it takes place and so on). But also from this discussion, I cannot fathom a world where you overall dislike the show. As you say, some episodes you'll dislike, inevitable with any series. But on the holistic level, God... so many things I want to say but obviously cannot. And that's not to say the TNG journey is wasted, far from it, so many more golden nuggets to come from it too. Only 960 hours to go!

Looking forward to this.

I'm so excited, DS9 is by far my favourite trek show, and one of my favourite tv shows period. If anyone spoils anything for you guys, then I hope that hell exists specifically for them to be sent there!

I seriously can’t wait for you to start DS9! I’ll just leave you with this trailer line from the last series of trailers they used leading up to the premiere. No spoilers here! “…but most of all, it waits…for you!” “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, in (April or May), the wait will be over”

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I'm so hyped for DS9.

Really looking forward to your reactions!

Hilarious discussion lol.

Gonna be a journey...

the only thing i say about Ds9 is that it leaves the comfort zone that TNG got comfortable in, so i look forward to see your reactions

Without any spoilers, hints or metaphors, I can safely say... ...strap in. You guys are in for a wild ride 😉

Deep Space Nine is NO Plan 9 from Outer Space.

Watching now, I'm curious if you are planning to watch it as aired interspaced with TNG given timeline wise that's how it plays out? At a minimum the pilot. Have wondered, hopefully answered in the video!

Not my fav series for reasons that I will not disclose but looking forward to see how you two react to it. 🖖 Edit: posted before I realized you really manged to not know much at all! Amazing! I will be following this religiously. Please post TNG asap pls!

Spoiler: DS9 is a Star Trek show... 🫢🫢🫢

I signed up for the patreon to join along for this ride