UNCUT - The Expanse Season 2 Episode 3
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I'm kinda surprised that when the bartender pulled out her taser and demonstrated it, Alex didn't complain about the "blue lightning" ⚡😉
So I wouldn't say there are too many parallels between Expanse and TNG characters. Obviously Amos is the tough guy archetype like Worf, but in personality and motivations they're light years apart. Alex is a bit of a boyscout, but he's not a leader like Picard. He's more like a coach for the crew if that makes sense. He keeps morale up and glues the team together. Holden I find very much is supposed to be a Picard type character. The problem is he hasn't earned it. Picard started out as the cranky, hardass boss who grew into the character we know and love. Holden is kind of that generic rpg character if you play the good guy. Like Shepard from Mass Effect if you go 100% paragon(and Miller shooting Dresden was absolutely a renegade interrupt). He's full of righteous indignation, but kinda boring and predictable, and pretty naive. We understand Picard and what drives him, we understand WHY he's this moral figure. Holden kinda just is, and that's hard to really buy into. Naomi is fine, but she just doesn't have a lot to work with right now.
I mean, Picard was Holden for almost 2 seasons(of way more episodes.) TNG didn't get really good(hit its stride) until season 3. Comparing the shows just feels wrong other than both are SciFi/space shows(and the best of their genre imo)
The guys who wrote the books also write the show.
You guys will eventually like James Holden. He’s the most unlikable in season 2.
yes, it's clearly guys who just love TNG so much that it's forgotten that Picard and characters weren't really that fleshed out until season 3(when the show really hit its stride) and TNG had WAY more episodes every year
Yes!! These characters are becoming more clear, the stakes are life itself in this solar system, and the enemy is a unknown life force which overzealous masters of society and government attempt to control a hurrican with a windsock Love the reaction you guys show the buzzy feeling of growing circumstances and the freight train coming for our tiny human perception. It took longer to get back and join the conversation than I thought training 24 hours a day with a guide dog is time consuming and more important exhausting
I've read the books. There's a bunch of them. Big beefy reads full of details. Going to try to keep this as spoiler free as I can: The series follows the books really well. There are a couple bits they change up chronologically, and one major change. But even the major thing doesn't change the original story that much, it just tacks those parts on to another thing instead. ETA: One of the things that would be a good example that wouldn't be spoilers as you've gotten into the series far enough is the introduction of the undersecretary. In the books she's introduced a fair bit later than in the tv show. And iirc, she has a slightly different job title. But her role and actions in both are the same.
They also ended swapping some events from one character to another and combined several belter characters into one character that is really a standout in the show. I won’t say who to avoid spoilers. But by and large, the show tracks the major plot points of the books pretty well. They did cut out the weeks/months of travel time needed to get anywhere. Effectively- “distance” is a character in the book. It wouldn’t be possible to really get that across in a show, so they reduced te travel times and communication light lag to off-hand remarks.
I know there's not much you can do about it, but dang, syncing this with the Amazon version is tough. Your version starts with a "previously on", then the opening credits, then the first act of the actual episode. Amazon jumps straight into the first act of the episode, then has the opening credits where the commercial break would be between acts 1 and 2. Also, Amazon has about a second of black in the commercial breaks, but it looks like your version just cuts straight to the next scene.
Yeah, that’s unfortunate. If we switched to Amazon though then those watching from the Blu-ray would have the same issue so it’s a no-win choice. Hopefully the blurred image helps you a bit.
I’m looking forward to catching up on your season 2 videos, the bluerays should be arriving tomorrow and just picked up a blue ray player. Stupid streaming services!
This is the way
It surprises me that you don't like Holden, when you both like virtuous characters, which he clearly is? Sure, emotional, which makes sense given that he's young. He's the character I by far most identify with (although a close second would be Alex). I guess it's because he's not particularly smooth in his approach? Basically, you only like virtue if it's connected with suave charisma and intellect, like Picard? Fair enough I suppose.
Probably needs more time to cook for us. Also, I think we both value admiring a character rather than identifying with them. Holden lacks aura imo compared to basically every other character.
I find it really weird that Earth and Mars have no diplomatic channels. At first I thought that there was just a time delay mucking things up in tense moments, or that both sides were keeping quiet waiting for the other to make inroads first, but I'm starting to believe there is no embassy, no line of contact whatsoever. It feels like literally any talking whatsoever would change the direction of things.
Is this your first watch? Yeah, depending on the time of year there's as much as a 30-minute delay in communication Earth to Mars.
The book authors were VERY closely involved with the show. They were in the writers room helping craft the scripts.
I was worried about Fred when I saw him because I found the actor maybe the most annoying person on Walking Dead, but he's good here.
He was also in The Wire. He killed it on that show. So hes a good actor. I also didnt like his character in TWD.
The leader of the OPA is Anderson Dawes. Played by Jared Harris. Fred Johnson is in charge of Tycho Station. Tycho station is a big piece of construction infrastructure, it was used to spin up the big asteroids like Ceres and Eros, and is building that huge Mormon ship.
I have never been as excited to watch reactions as I am excited to watch your guy's reactions to this season.
Ya ever been on a really big, really old roller coaster... slowly working its way to the top of a really big hill...click...click...click
So heres a terrifying fact: the trans cranial magnetic induction to supress empathy is a thing we can actually do today, though as far as I know its only a short term effect in experiments done so far.
The show is pretty faithful to the books. There are some differences in characters and beats, but overall it arrives at the same place.
I am looking forward to picking up with the expanse this evening, I am in New York right now getting a brand new Guide Dog for the second time this year the first Guide Dog did not train well and had to go back for more training this evening when I get a chance to rest, I’m gonna watch this and make a more interesting comment than this Glad to be on board with your expanse journey
Enjoy. Hell of a ride.
Evening sorted