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January 21, 2025

PATRON TIER LIST TNG S5E16

What tier do you rate Star Trek TNG S5E16?

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Comments (70)

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ByRikersBeard · January 23, 2025

Great Worf episode, dealing with a subjunctive

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Boggle · January 23, 2025

There's definitely some cheese involved with the whole coming back to life stuff. But Crusher stepping up and the Riker/Worf bits are both really good. Alexander and Troi are solid as well. The short scene with Riker and Picard during the operation was appreciated. I kept flipping between a low 'A' or a high 'B' but eventually went with the former.

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Matthew McKinnon-Gray · January 23, 2025

Probably the best thing to come out of having Alexander on the ship.

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Joe Concepts · January 23, 2025

I really love the Riker and Worf moments here. First off, it really displays their solid friendship. But I really love how you could argue that Riker is wrong by insulting the Klingon culture, but it's more real this way. He just decides, "Screw it, I'm calling this out for what I think it is." I suppose in your personal life, you don't have to follow the respect-all-cultures rule that you would professionally. But it also makes me think, what does Riker think of the Prime Directive? I think as a captain he would have more problems with it than Picard ever does.

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FreshBread · January 22, 2025

Worf has defeated many foes including the Duros family, and has many yet to come, but here he meets his greatest enemy of all, the barrel! Maybe the greatest villain in the entire franchise.

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Narnman · January 22, 2025

Hillary Clinton arrives and causes havoc

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Pykeman · January 22, 2025

TNG does it best when the problem has no right or wrong answer, in this case, Worf's initial wish for ritual suicide considering the circumstances. It's perfectly acceptable in his culture - so in truth in a way it's incorrect for others to speak against that, especially by Federation Charter. Yet he was also raised on earth and is a federation citizen and serves aboard a Starfleet Vessels, so the lines of which culture has sway in his decision are blurred. Worf is a man of two worlds and as time goes by he needs to learn where he walks in those worlds. Riker, i could believe Rikers arguments but I also felt he should not have made them whilst wearing his uniform, he was leadign with his own thoughts and feelings rather than the Federations, and as a commander he needs to also walk the line of respecting culture. Overall a great episode A.

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Pokeysaurus · January 22, 2025

Writing and directing really drag this one down out of the A-B range for me. The subject matter is clearly one that resonates with people, and the actors have the chops to pull off some emotional scenes, but nothing comes together for a moving story.

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Kyle Stewart · January 21, 2025

Another episode where extreme trauma to a character has zero repercussions or consequences. I don't care about this episode because the writers don't care about this episode.

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ShazD · January 21, 2025

Worf is a stoic person anyway? So you wouldn't necessarily see much impact of the "trauma".

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reactive1 · January 21, 2025

This isn't one of my favorite episodes from season 5 but it is a solid, well written story and goes into areas we really haven't seen before with TNG. It's definitely memorable for that aspect.

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Jovet · January 21, 2025

This episode may be many viewers' first glimpse into the matters of medical ethics.

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Ian Westcott · January 21, 2025

I love Riker's "Eff you and the horse you rode in on" speech to Worf. Unfortunately maybe it's the only really good part of this episode. The Deus Ex Machina at the end is particularly, particularly bad for its incredibly stupid take on anatomy.

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John · January 21, 2025

This is another "Starfleet demonstrates its hypocrisy" episode, by imposing Earth human morality on Worf, but they needed to keep him alive anyway, since heaven forbid any crew die or evolve on Star Trek. (EDIT: I'm not saying Worf SHOULD die. Just that we go in knowing, not just hoping but KNOWING, that he'll come out of it absolutely the same as he went in.) That said, the episode is pretty good, and the special effectl shots of what a Klingon spine looks like are pretty cool. It's a B-lister for me. Just shy of A-level.

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Joe Concepts · January 23, 2025

It is interesting how Picard really stands out among the crew as he is the only one saying, "So what? Klingons gotta be Klingons." But then again, as Riker points out, Worf was breaking the rules by not trying to get Alexander to do it. Which suggests he is already letting his more human values trump the Klingon culture.

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Deep Red · January 21, 2025

Really been a while since Crusher got an episode and fortunately it's a pretty good one. I like to imagine what this would have been like if the other doctor was actually Pulaski

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Jeff Cornell · January 22, 2025

I was thinking the same thing. Her general personality seems similar enough. I wonder if she may have originally been meant to be Pulaski but they changed their minds.

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John Pierce · January 21, 2025

This could have just been a crappy “teach Worf his honor isn’t really important” morality play. Instead, it was a complex and nuanced view of a couple very big ethical issues. This isn’t an S for me because it isn’t on my go-to short list, but definitely worthy of an A.

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Mr Moxie · January 21, 2025

If B is banger aka still really good TV, then this qualifies. Solid discussion of morality, good overall episode, but the Riker suicide debate is the most interesting part, once we are past that and Worf commits to the surgery I do struggle to get too invested because even on first viewing you kinda know he's going to be fine. Not really a shortcoming of the story but of the limitations of serialized tv. Though it does really help TNG that they killed Tasha out of nowhere, because it adds some sense of risk of death (however unlikely) to scenes like this.

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Gregory Foster · January 21, 2025

I hated Dr. Tobby Russel as a kid watching this episode for the first time and I hate her even more as an adult. Overall I like this episode it deals with issues most people don't want to think about. And, I understand you can't kill off Worf, it's not a season-ender. But to bring him back with a redundant brain because he's a Klingon is a bit much.

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Dan Here · January 21, 2025

How come nothing is secure in this bloddy ship?

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Jovet · January 21, 2025

Because they have to have things that can break!

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Prof Moff · January 21, 2025

This one is a real gut punch

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JHVJ · January 21, 2025

Correction: This one is a real barrel falling on your back

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Sixto · January 21, 2025

I am disappointed they didn’t use Pulaski instead of Ellen’s mom, a little twerk of the script and BAM! But it’s kind of a B

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Max Yoder · January 21, 2025

I loved this one, but Worf was always my favorite character so I tend to like the Worf centered episodes most.

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Gruzz · January 21, 2025

There are some great performances in this one that push it to a B, but it's nearly a C for me because of the story. Dr Whatshername is completely unethical to the point of comedy. If the story between her and Crusher had been more about two people exploring nuances of a narrow ethical line instead of out right bickering over a chasm of differing opinion I think this could have been an A or even S.

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Dark Kronis · January 21, 2025

a Klingon greatest weakness a empty plastic barrel, i get that cant actually hurt the actor but surely they could have made something that looked heavy fall on him, also why dont starfleet secure their barrels on the top shelf?

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Loki San · January 21, 2025

This Episode - Worf getting beat by a barrel. Worst security chief ever! And who in Starfleet is responsible for OSHA measures? Probably another one of them crocked admirals. Despite all that, an interesting story about the right to choose ones own fate and A Tier performance for me.

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Spencer Loften · January 21, 2025

I don't really buy into Crusher's moral grandstanding during the episode. The show tries so hard to portray her as being in the right during this situation. Both Crusher and the audience know what kind of character Worf is at this point. They know that Worf will never accept the kind of life that comes from being paralyzed. Her being so against him doing the experimental treatment always came off as ridiculous to me. The other doctor being "evil" doesn't change the fact that the surgery is Worf's only real option. I'm also glad they've brought back the Worf/Riker relationship. It felt like it was forgotten for awhile. I like that Riker is the first person Worf goes to and Riker's response is even better.

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ShazD · January 21, 2025

I think Worf is entirely secondary to Crusher's objections. She is truly offended by the malpractice of the doctor and that entirely tracks with Beverly who is probably the most moralising character in the show. She is also the first one who spoke out about doing you know what to the you know who in a later highly regarded ep in the season.

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LonghillAndy · January 21, 2025

Interesting story on the emotions people might feel around assisted suicide/right to die by suicide and those it affects family, friends, colleagues. New fear unlocked 🔓: falling barrels 😂 B for me this one

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Greg Quinn · January 21, 2025

Pretty good episode. I think they went overboard in having the experimental doctor basically kill a patient in order to try her method. It basically just made her clearly evil...I guess the writer wanted to make sure you saw Dr Crusher as the good one. But maintaining more ambiguity would have been better. Also it's sad that we now have to add "barrel" to the list of opponents who have defeated Worf. Finally many have seen star trek as a communist or socialist utopian dream but here it looks like a libertarian utopia since they clearly have no work place safety regulations for how they stack barrels. Still pretty good episode. "A"... would be a S if not for making new doctor evil.

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Jovet · January 21, 2025

It's the "gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette" mentality. It's still valid for some people today.

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The Ninth Doctor · January 21, 2025

B for Barrel Without Honor. Who would've thought the Enterprise would have had lax procedures on storage of heavy/dangerous items at height... Lots to dig into with this one, particularly suicide and right to die. Great ep.

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JHVJ · January 21, 2025

All i remembered from this episode, was how funny it looked how the barrel hit Worf, and how unconvinced I was that this would have done any real damage. However, past that, there is actually a real good episode. Deep, emotional, a guest character to hate, some firespitting from Riker and especially Dr Crusher, and a genuine ethical dilemma. The fakeout death I'm not a huge fan of how it's done, but it's set up with "Klingon redundancies", so it's fine I guess. Overall, I'm surprised by how much I liked it on rewatch, A+.

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Jason Lallathin · January 21, 2025

Kinda like Vulcans and their eyelids...

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Nolan · January 21, 2025

Despite being a heavy Worf focused episode, it also manages to cram some decent material for Dr. Crusher in after not using her a whole lot this season. A darn good charscter piece that uses Sci-fi to explore possibilities instead of problems. A.

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Call ‘Em Greg · January 21, 2025

I’ll forever remember this one for the Worf death fake out. Seeing Beverly in tears breaking the news to Alexander is so well done. One line that will forever stick with me: “enjoy your laurels doctor, I’m not sure that I could.” Writing this take on 1/20/25, it rings especially true. B for “Barrel, Worf!”

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Kekkersboy and Kekkerstime · January 21, 2025

An amazing episode where everyone's actions make sense for their character. It's something relevant still today, and is also something that helps inform Worf's character as a friend and father. And how is presence or absence would affect them.

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Tim Nikiforovs · January 21, 2025

Alright I know Worf's whole thing is that anyone can kick his ass, but a barrel is just ridiculous. That's going too far. Alex did say in the Half A Life discussion that it would hit harder if it were about Worf, so here you go. I think this episode better handles the subject of suicide, given it's not being forced on anyone, and it's understandable that Worf wouldn't want to live being paralyzed. At the same time the episode doesn't just pass it off as an alien custom we have no right to judge, but makes a compelling argument for choosing life through Riker and Troi.

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Aramis Calcutt · January 21, 2025

Who says Star Trek only “became” woke with new Trek? Here is a story about bodily autonomy, the right to die, the dignity of people with disabilities, and no easy answers.

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Rogerbear60 · January 21, 2025

Poor Worf. He survived the Klingon civil war only to be downed by a huge container. And good on Riker for researching the Klingon suicide ritual before making his decision about helping. Turn the Klingon tradition back on him. The visiting doctor is not a very likeable character. Her gamble works in the end, but Dr. Crusher's parting words must have hurt a bit. And now we know what Klingon feet look like! I'd give this one a B, not necessarily a Banger, but better than a C Filler.

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#MaxwellDidNothingWrong · January 21, 2025

THAT BARREL HAS NO HONOR!!

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Mr Moxie · January 21, 2025

Worf's greatest enemy: Donkey, Son of Kong.

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Thicketdweller · January 21, 2025

Personally, I think this episode is a little too preachy. It’s boring. It’s too centered around Dorf. 44

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Jovet · January 21, 2025

Nah—too preachy comes later.

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bab · January 21, 2025

I barely remember this one. Still gets a D for Dorf.

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Jeffrey · January 21, 2025

I’m so split on this episode. Some good character scenes, but heavy handed. And just like Spock in original Trek, Worf survives because of an unexpected species adaptation. I rate it a B

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Wrestling With Gaming · January 21, 2025

Why are there little CRT monitors in the room worf is in sickbay?

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Collin Freeman · January 21, 2025

The classic "main cast member gets near fatal injury and may never see/walk/hear/have sex" again (pick your injury). Euthanasia and the right to die creates the moral dilemma. Research vs "first: do no harm" tackles the ethical conflict. This is mostly a C episode, but it's punctuated by some great little scenes, like Picard in Beverly's office arguing on behalf of Worf's beliefs and Beverly's parting words to Dr. Russell.

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ScarlettMi · January 21, 2025

I don’t love every aspect of this one, but I think there’s some great exploration of Worf’s relationships with others this episode.

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Mushroom-Bagel-Bites · January 21, 2025

This aired when the public was constantly hearing about Jack Kavorkian (Dr. Death) and his push for doctor assisted end of life choices. Some of the script is a bit heavy-handed but, honestly, so were some of the discussions of Kavorkian that I overheard between older family members/relatives. It's an episode that was of the time. I don't skip it when doing a series rewatch, but I wouldn't go out of my way to see it again.

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Keith S · January 21, 2025

If those bone ridges go down his back as with his head. Wouldn't you see that through his shirt. Still, it was a good episode with all the conflicts every one was dealing with. I give it an A for this.

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Eric Wilson · January 21, 2025

Did they get ya?

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tyranusfan · January 21, 2025

Question: Would this have been better with Pulaski? (either as Enterprise doctor OR the visiting doc butting heads with Crusher)

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Keith S · January 21, 2025

Interesting idea, but I don't think Pulaski would be that cold.

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rear adm. crackbiscuit · January 21, 2025

Someone order some filler? Some nice moments, still filler.

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rear adm. crackbiscuit · February 3, 2025

Considering how many tears this rewatch brought on, I retract my review and raise my score. Haven’t seen it in at least 15 years.

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John M. · January 21, 2025

E. Hate the ending.

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Forbidden Donut · January 21, 2025

I really like this one for Worf, Crusher, Riker, Troi, and Alexander. Gruesome concept of a total spinal replacement (!) that was a little hard to watch. Can you imagine if they had the stones to either kill Worf off or leave him permanently disabled? I don't know if that would have been wise, but it's at least an interesting 'what if?'

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Nathan Walker · January 21, 2025

Lot’s of ethical questions floating around in this episode. A-list performances from our favorite characters, not just Crusher and Worf, but all around. We find out who Worf’s greatest nemesis is in this episode… a plastic barrel. The Beating up Worf Trope at its weakest and most famous. Despite that, this episode is an A- for me.

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Robert Kozelou · January 21, 2025

This episode is just above average for me. It is very clear from the start that this dilemma will be solved by the end of the episode, but the individual scenes save it from being a C tier episode.

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Skullman8942 · January 21, 2025

The barrel has no honour

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Worf and Riker Ride Again · January 21, 2025

This one is great - big stakes for a big character! Very little distraction from other smaller plots and a massive focus on the main point of the episode

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Ross Townsend · January 21, 2025

Hard question time: if Worf came to you and asked for help in this situation, as his friend, would you? Would your decision be based on morality, friendship, or respect for your friend's culture?

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Paul Rymer · January 21, 2025

E tier, one I skip, not even Dr. Crusher can save it.

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Thomas Cole · January 21, 2025

One of the best Crusher AND Worf Episodes, it uses everyone who needs to be part of the episode well, even Alexander. It is one of the best Crusher episodes, in her medical field as well as looking at a very touchy ethical idea.

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Evan Guthrie · January 21, 2025

Ah, the Klingon’s greatest weakness, plastic barrels.

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KatWithAttitude · January 21, 2025

Worf has another dilemma. For me it's just a little bit too heavy-handed with conflicting views of medical ethics and euthanasia, but to each their own. Naturally, it all works out in the end. There are good performances and it's fun seeing Riker yell at Worf, but it's another “Time Filler With Good Moments” episode for me.