PATRON TIER LIST TNG S4E20
What tier do you rate Star Trek TNG S4E20?
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A good filler episode Solid C rating.
And in this episode, we have one of the best moments in all of Star Trek history, It’s when the girlfriend meets the ex although it’s hard to define which one is the ex When Beverlly, is about to take Vash on a tour of the ship, you can see that Picard is 110% flustered It doesn’t save the episode, but it always brings a smile to my face I rated this one to be due to the level of humor in it that saves the bad storytelling
End of this episode has quite a few character flashes of significance, it injects an outrageous amount of comedy into the episode and fails to hit the mark of being a quality Star Trek episode, but it’s still too fun to ignore no matter how much it is out of place and not the Form of Star Trek. I am used to. However, Q turns the form of Star Trek on its side more often than not for example when he brought Ryker off to the planet with the weird French revolution, animal soldiers, it wasn’t really what I was used to from Star Trek, but it was still good and that is the fate of Q to bring strange twist that are completely unexpected.
Odd that Q is eating during the swordfight.
It's a C for me -- not terrible, memorably goofy, but ultimately not what I want or expect out of Star Trek. For some reason, it seems like this one played all the time in mid-90s syndication, so I've seen it a bunch of times. There are a few really funny moments, and I'm sure from an acting standpoint, it was refreshing for the cast.
yup
D for dumb.
Gotta rate this D only because no other episode deserves to sit in E with Code of Honor.
I can only give this a C, and that's being generous because I like the comedy moments. I like having Vash back, i think it's fair to say i liked Captain's Holiday more than Josh and Alex lol. I'm just not into Robin Hood though. However Worf smashing that instrument is my favourite moment, it's something I often feel like doing...i can't help now having a mental image of Worf at Spock's funeral and smashing Scotty's bagpipes😂😂😂
Good B episode. Plenty of comedy, I have a feeling Patrick Stewart had fun with this episode.
I'm going to be very very nice here: For the love of God I really hate this episode; so much that it almost pisses me off. There. I was being nice. This goes up there with Captain's Holiday for me. Which of the two is worse for you guys? Am I alone?
This is a really fun episode and a good Q episode in my opinion and A tier overall and I like how Vash completely surprised Q by manipulating Sir Guy and they end up exploring the galaxy together. Great episode
She loves archaeology as much as he does, just for the wrong reasons. PICARD CAN FIX HER!!!
I gave this an S. Not because it deserves it, I know it is a fine B episode. But I am rating it as I would have in the early 90's when I first saw it and loved it. I mean Patrick Stewart was clearly having a blast!
I love this episode, though I suspect you guys may not. Only misses an S from me because of a behind the scene detail. McFadden and Sirtis were actually the only cast members with prior fencing experience buy they weren't given swords because of some bullshit about it not being period appropriate. In a Q fantasy based on 19/20th century retellings of a story in which virtually no details are correct to the theoretical 11th century setting! To say nothing of the fact that Star Trek likes to pretend it features progressive gender roles. They do try but the shows are also very clearly products of their time. For example, Troi is consistently written, costumed, and shot for male-gaze fanservice in a way that none of the male regulars are.
But... leeches!!
It's really just a fun episode and i love it for the bit of sillyness. Also looks like the Crew had tremendous fun with it. Beverly showing her arround and haven the Woman talk, Picard feeling uncomftable, Vash beeing Vash, that little things like the drumstick in Datas hand. I just love that easiness of the play.
Q!
-Pid
It's a very stupid episode. But the good kind of stupid !
As much as I hesitate to draw attention to this little coincidence, it is episode 20 of season 4, and it did originally air on the 20th day of April, 1991. So we can, perhaps, excuse it being a little... trippy.
Just a fun silly episode. Not much to hate, a lot to laugh at, and I love how straight Sir Guy is played by Clive Revill.
If I wasn’t in before the turkey drumstick, I certainly was in after it. I think it’s tremendous fun. Check your brain at the door. It IS episode 4.20 after all.
4.20, 😂😂
Yuck...except for Worf's "I am not a merry man!"
That's become one of Star Trek's best-known sayings, LOL.
While I appreciate the cast getting to have a fun change of pace, this is a very mediocre C tier to me. 2nd worst Q ep after Hide and Q. Q Who elevate the character from trickster god to a sort of tough love mentor, guiding humanity in their journey of both space exploration and self discovery. Here he orchestrates this scenario to what, make Picard appreciate his sort of girlfriend right before he steals her from him? Big step backward. Also who turns down a gift from an omnipotent being? At least ask him to give you your hair back😄.
The lute smashing is stolen from Animal House, right down to Belushi’s perfect comedic timing of “Sorry”
"I am not a Merry Man." and "Sorry." are two of my favourite Worf lines from the series. Always the best.
I still prefer "Die." but these are pretty close.
It's "okay." Aside for a couple of standouts, most Q episodes are just.. middle of the pack, like this. It has some fun moments.
Q is probably my favorite TNG character, but this episode borders on awful. It's my least favorite Q episode of TNG. There are some great one-liners in this though, probably what saved it from getting an 'E' from me. This is the worst episode of season 4.
This one is just alright for me. It makes a lot of top episode lists around the internet, but to me it’s just a slightly better than run of the mill episode. Worf was the best part between his stance of being a merry man and smashing Geordi’s instrument.
You probably won't like this because Vash is back, but it is amusing. Worf has one of his funniest lines in the series, and that's saying something. My ranking is "Enjoyable".
Something that I feel that Trek loses--going into DS9 and Voyager--is unabashed, confident, based absurdities. This episode is a testament to that old approach, especially prevalent in TOS. I'm overwhelmed by the silliness and charm of this episode, and I like to think that the people on set had fun with it as well. I'll be intrigued to see how you feel about Vash's return. I didn't hate Captain's Holiday, but I usually skipped it because of how boring it felt as a child. This one, though, is thoroughly entertaining, and perhaps it's a personal bias to say that I was always borderline intrigued by the silly "almost-chemistry" between Vash and Picard... even it's ultimately a half-hearted cop-out to "what might have been" in another romantic continuity.
Oh there's plenty of absurd shit that happens later. Let me start rolling my eyes right now!!!
Prediction: you’re going to like Q this time out, but NOT like Vash’s return.
One of those fun, silly episodes Star Trek does occasionally. This one stands out for its humour. Worf smashing Geordi's lute and Deanna shooting Data are priceless.
I find this episode hokey but still very entertaining. However, there is less suspense in the plot than in whether TA's ongoing love of Q will override the previous dislike of Vash. I predict that the guys will be at their merriest when Worf utters one of his all-time classic lines...
q elevates an otherwise d to c for me.
FUNNY... and FUN. But you didn't like Captain's Holiday, so I'm not certain how you will feel about this one. I like it. Worf steals the show and chews up every scene he is in.
Q takes the crew of the Enterprise on a jaunt in Sherwood Forest. S4E20... coincidence? Most people seem to consider this episode mid but its my favorite Q episode.
This is what a Q episode should be. It's not just a problem the Enterprise encounters and then Q happens to be there. There's no way into this scenario without Q.
This episode is in season 4? Could have sworn it was in 2.
We first saw Vash in 3, how would that even work?
Sir Patrick gets to play Robin Hood after already playing King Richard in Robin Hood men in tights. Deanna shoots an arrow into data and worf is not a merry man all round good chuckle episode solid B for me
Goofy Q episode with a Q pun spoilerly episode name, which A&J both hated last time with 'Deja Q'. Now, mixed in with a returning Vash, from the cringe 'Captains Holiday'. Logic dictates they should detest this one based on the ingredients...? They'll probably give it an S 😆
B-Tier, really good, 7.4/10. I love forest settings as they are very cool. Same with sword fights. This episode is ridiculous but pulls it off well. Q is always a good way to make a goofy premise like this have stakes without being just another holodeck malfunction. Watching this ep makes me a merry man :)
Something about this I like. Really makes me like Vash more
i may not be in the majority but i love this episode - A for me!!
Bumped up to A tier for me just for the line "Sir, I protest, I AM NOT A MERRY MAN!" hah.
Easily one of the worst Q episodes. Only entertaining part of this episode is Worf.
One of the more pointless examples of how to use Q. I also hate that Worf...a guy who is supposed to be trained in hand held melee weapons, gets bodied so easily by the sheriff. Still gave it a C though. The early interactions of Vaush on the ship are good
A nice break from the Enterprise in a scenic area.
I was torn between A and B, but I gave it an A. It’s just so much gosh darn fun. And a tip of the hat to the old Errol Flynn Robin Hood movie. (You guys should add that to your list). I don’t think you will like this episode as much as I do because of your dislike of Vash.
Gets an A just for "I am *NOT* a merry man."
C, a Q story with Vash in it? Robin Hood setting was really corny. Dr Crusher knoking out someone with a flower pot became a sexist meme all over the internet. They wernt up to par on this one.
Your favorite character is back! This episode has some stand-out funny moments, but overall, despite the fun I bet everyone has, there's a good chance you two will NOT be merry men with this one.
Worf is fun here. Everything else about the episode sucks. Bottom 5 episode of TNG
Ohhh boy. This one could really go either way for a lot of people. It's very silly and out there, and I can see why some would enjoy that while others might find it to be awful or cringe. Younger me had a good time with it, older me isn't really that charmed by it anymore. I felt generous in giving it a B, but I wouldn't be shocked if there's a wide spread of grades for this one between you guys and the audience. Always glad when Q pops up, but Vash doesn't do much for me. She's written as though Picard and Q think she's great, but I'm not a fan. I'm also not sure I buy Jean Luc being so into her.
Definite B episode. Silly, but enjoyable, although you guys might not like it at all.
I love this episode, but based on your reactions to "Deja Q" and "Captain's Holiday", I'm going to guess you'll hate it.
You might not hate this one as much as Captains Holiday because it doesn't try to bait and switch you, but it's still a pretty terrible episode in my opinion. It's an absolute waste of Q. Why would he care at all about Picard and Vash? For that matter, why does ANYONE care about Picard and Vash? It's fun if you let yourself get caught up in the camp, but that's about it. E from me for ERASE from cannon.
Now let's see here......returning guest character that the TA hated, same writer as well from that episode....Cliff Bole directing though....Q is also here.....yeah, not sure they'll like this one. I will say that this is maybe my least favorite Q episode in TNG
B for a Bit silly. Probably a C but Worf raises it a couple of notches.
Meme-worthyness > plot, but we can all tell how much FUN this was for the entire cast.
This is a C for me, but I could be convinced to bump it to B tier on Worf's reactions alone!
I hate Vash, but Worf absolutely steals it in this one: "I am NOT a merry man!" Overall silly episode which I still mostly like despite its flaws.
It’s a B for Bloody Great Fun, especially Worf’s one-liner and smashing Geordi’s musical instrument.
I like this episode overall. Reminded me a lot of the old Errol Flynn Robin Hood (which I'm sure it was completely based on), so the writers did a good job. Shows what a sleeze Vash really is. Loved that Q gave the scenario a life of its own. And Worf was perfect.
Yes it was! And I grew up watching that movie in reruns (you young’uns might not know what rerun is😄). Because my family watched that movie numerous times I enjoyed this even more than many I think
I have a soft spot for fun, goofy episodes that don’t take themselves too seriously. This one is a gem, through and through. “I must protest, I am not a merry man!”
On second thought, let's not go to the Enterprise this week. It is a silly place. You might like seeing Q again, which might make up for the fact that it's Vash again. Overall, my dislike of Q episodes in general (there's no sense of drama or suspense, because whatever is happening, Q can and will put it right again in the end, becuase he has the powers of a god) rates this a D-tier, even with the humor.
Michael Dorn steals the show on this one. "Sir, I protest, I am NOT a merry man!" followed by Worf smashing the lute and then quietly apologizing. Chef's kiss.
A collection of fun moments with the cast does not a good episode make. The weakest Q story I think. If I was rating just Worf moments it would be S tier.
Agreed, though I still think Hide and Q is worse
You guys might hate this one because you hated Vash in Captains Holiday but I like this one just because it’s fun to see the main cast have such a great time in camera. There’s a moment when they are in Sherwood Forest that shows Crusher smiling that captures that fun feeling the cast must have had. Worf “Captain I must protest, I am not a merry man!” Great. B tier for me.
Overall a dull episode, but some of Worf’s best comedic moments.
