PATRON TIER LIST TNG S4E17

Good Halloween season episode in my humble opinion. Mood music is different from other episodes.

Probably would have worked much better as an original series episode.

Do they HAVE hydrogen, or WANT hydrogen? "surely it's what they want" Hold on there buddy, you seek out new life and new civilizations with diverse cultures and perspectives but, clearly, it's probably definitely the one and not the other. Ah screw it, they were all sleep deprived.

I get "The Loss" confused with this (much better) episode because of their similar premises. While not a truly great, S tier, episode I think it works well overall. I give it an A based on Deana being useful as a empath in a show were whe is the focus and on the realistic depiction of the difficulty of communication with an alien intelligence. Something Star Trek often ignores.

This episode starts out strong but by the end I was just waiting for it to be over. Then I get my wish and it just abruptly ends.

I mean, it’s maybe kinda bad but I love it. The mood is fun (despite the goofy Troi on a wire bits) and the actors are so good with each other at this point it elevates even the so-so episodes. Another fun Ron Jones score. Hotshot pilot Ensign Sariel Rager forgets how to fly the ship.

Plot? A! Music? A! Use of Diana ? A! Direction ? A! So of course it’s a D.

Yeah, this one is a D for me. The morgue scene is fantastically creepy, and I do like Picard talking to Data about his fear of losing his mental faculties like his grandfather, but watching Marina Sirtis get a wedgie from all the wire work while shouting "WHERE ARRRREEE YOUUUU" into the void just doesn't do it for me. There are episodes that incorporate horror far better than this.

Trying to decide between B and C. Leaning C. There are some great moments in here, but the "Troi floating listening to unnecessarily cryptic aliens" part really drags it down. Like, the third time she's voting through the void, it's hard not to laugh.

Some interesting science in this episode to solve their dilemma.

B for “Boo!” when the bodies sit up around Crusher. Also B for Bad Troi effect with the floating. But it’s still an interesting episode to watch from time to time.

A. It's just as creepy as the episode "Where Silence Has Lease".

I really really like this episode. I've heard it said before that generally people consider this a "meh" installment--both among fans and producers. However, I think it's some good straight-forward spoops that's both entertaining and revealing from a character standpoint. It sets itself apart long before later Trek iterations over-use the "hallucinogenic" trope, too. Also, the morgue scene with Crusher is one of the creepiest bits ever put to television, especially with how realistically calm and mentally-centered Gates McFadden performs in the scene. I've always casually liked the role of Gates in Trek, but watching y'all react to her has made me appreciate her on an even higher level, and I would like to thank you for that~

I predict that you’ll give this an A just for the Guinan gun scene.

This is a C. It has 1 memorable scene and thats about it. Theres also the same scene with Troi repeated over and over again. yawn

It's a nightmare episode, but in a literal and positive way, for me at least; and more effective I think, even on repeated viewings, when watched close to Halloween.

Cringe-inducing... sorry. Anything possibly "good" is forgotten as you only remember the bad of it... and in the end, hmf... That's it?

Horror story time..! Troi flying through green space makes me cringe and howl with laughter in equal measure. Feel the balance between character and plot is a little *too* skewed away from plot, as it feels pretty thin in places.

Maybe against the grain with this take but this is one of my very very few “skip” episodes of trek, not sure what it is specifically just doesn’t grab me at all

C+ for me (7.0/10). Some of the creepy scenes are pretty cool, esp the morgue one, but overall just not enough happens in this one to score it any higher.

just finished rating the rest of the season - love it all - most of my grades were A with one very notable S - this was the only B, not a bad episode, just not the best - almost makes me want to take a nap - and Riker has the best portrayal of lack of REM sleep on his face!

I'm thinking C but maybe B....

missed this one on first release, and once I did catch it, I never got freaked out by the morgue scene as much as other people did, as I'd already been traumatised by a later episode

B-tier for me, primarily because of how quickly the ending happens. It felt a bit rushed towards the end and not satisfying as it could have. However, I subscribe to the "B for Banger" style of rating, so I still quite enjoy this one.

So, we have another good mystery episode, mixed with psychological horror, mixed with some Twilight Zone moments like Beverly Crusher in the morgue, mixed with Guinan holding down 10-foreward. Yeah, I'm predicting you'll love this one.

This is probably the first episode I watched in broadcast after the pilot. Until this point I had basically watched the opening 30 minutes of Encounter at Farpoint, hated it, and like a moody teen went on with my life at college. A friend convinced me to check it out again and I re-watched it with my parents' VHS collection taped off the TV. I'm pretty sure this is where I become an active, diehard TNG fan. I loved the 'out of Brink' phrase so much my partner and I used it as shorthand for being too tired to think straight for years, and it ultimately ended up in a song lyric of mine. Absolutely S-tier episode too, I can re-watch it over and over again. Eyes in the dark, one moon circles. It's a tetch corny but not enough to put me off.

TNG does psychological horror, a reaction just in time for spooky season. I do wish Troi's nightmares were scarier - her wanderimg the empty corridors of the ship in terror, rather than floating through green space calling "WHERE ARE YOU?!" And maybe some of the illusions coulda been scarier, though I doubt they'd flood the set with a tidal wave of blood pouring out of the turbolift.

I love when Picard is in the turbolift hallucinating being crushed, and everything kinda stops after the doors open with him screaming... until he says "As you were."

Show has a great Twilight Zone feel to it. Gets really scary at times. On another note actor Brian Tochi plays the relife helmsman. He appeared as a boy named Ray in your "favorite" TOS episode The Children Shall Lead.

Lots of background characters with lines in this one!

I still want to know if Keiko takes Miles for a fool.

Sirtis wanted more "action" in the show, and she got it with this one. Unfortunately for her, her flying sequences required her to be suspended up high and she has a big fear of heights!

The scene with Dr. Beverly in the makeshift morgue is just in time for Target Horror ™! A deliciously creepy scene. It's a shame it originally aired in mid-March.

B. A banger. I loved this one. The scene in sickbay where Beverly sees the bodies sitting up was incredibly creepy. The only reason I didn’t give it an A was it had some slow pacing at points. You might give it an A for its focus on character over plot, and some good moments (and good Beverly moments). But I thought it should have had a few more of those moments. Still, it’s one I really enjoy. Just not A level enjoy.

I think you’ll like it more than me. A few scenes stick out as positives for me, but in general it is way too convoluted and the acting was below par for our team

An otherwise fine spooky episode, but God those floating Deanna scenes are rough lol That arguably drags an A down to a B, but maybe that's too harsh.

The nightmare scenes are more stupid than scary. The scenes of Troi flying are laughable. The cast seems 'off' returning to filming after Christmas break. Interesting premise, but ultimately I give this one a D for dud.

I'm between an S and an A for this one. Reason? This is one of my most rewatched episodes. The mystery and the horror element is just top notch. Very similar to the "Clues" episode.

This one has one of the creepiest scenes of the series when Dr. Beverly sees the bodies sitting up in the morgue. Perfect for your Halloween viewing. And again Troi's empathic abilities help save the day. I rank this one as "Enjoyable."

Prediction : the boys will love this one. The creepy overall vibe gets an A from me. Also, apparently this episode overran massively and had to be severely cut down in the edit.

So this feels like a classic mid-tier episode that the TA will absolutely love. Lots of cool horror moments. Data being op as always. Wish Troi would get some better episodes soon though

I wanna hear about the SCORE and how perfectly timed this episode is for the season and Channel’s new focus. How did TNG do for a (light) horror theme?

I hope you guys vibe with this episode; it's the perfect time for something spooky. This disturbed me as a kid, but now I really like this episode. Such a unique premise, creepy atmosphere, and memorable score. And we get the dynamic duo of Data and Troi solving the problem again. Yes, Troi's nightmare scenes are a little cringy, but it's not real life so I can let that slide. Overall, an episode that sticks with me, and perhaps you guys as well, A grade.

I enjoyed this episode. It was moody, creepy, and a perfect episode to watch in October. What more could you ask for?

In the grand scope of Star Trek, Troi floating through the dream is hardly the silliest thing we see. But damn it if I don’t laugh my ass off at “WHERE ARE YOUUUU?”

Ah it’s never going to win awards but I like this. Spooky, atmospheric dumb fun I think

I gave it an A, mainly because it's a good psychological horror episode. The tone of the music was perfect. And another episode where Data wasn't affected and led the crew to a conclusion.

This is one of my personal favorite episodes. I don't know if it'll be one of yours, and I'm fairly sure it won't be, but it terrified me when I first watched it as a child, and that particular nostalgia has always stuck with me. That bit with the corpses in the medical bay.... *shudders* So it gets an S-tier from me. My major niggle: I've always thought it funny that the examples of atoms in the Enterprise computer show electrons orbiting around the nucleus of an atom, even though we know even now that's not how atoms operate. But whatever.... It's important for the episode that this particular interpretation iis used.

Some of it gets a bit corny, and it isn't Marina Sirtis's finest performance, but it has some effectively creepy moments, like Beverly in the morgue.

The only D episode of season 4

Not the best episode but I give it a C tier. Not bad just very straight down the middle for me. I do enjoy seeing rest of the crew start to lose it because of sleep deprivation, especially at the end. Seems a little stretched out to fill airtime.

The acting in this one....well I would say it's bad but that would be generous. You can do better Troy.