PATRON TAKES - Star Trek TNG S4E10

Oooh you wanted a Dianna episode ? Well THERE ! Lol 2 things, I hate how they wrote Troi in this, and 2. I don’t know shit about technology, but I love the Technobable cause they have a RESON for shit, they don’t just turn left. Guinan IS a better counselor !

This is the emotional, annoying Troi that I dislike with some intensity. She Can be written well, but this is not it.

Would have been A or B tier if Troi's struggles were very internal instead of what we got which was everyone dealing with her not taking it well externally. Missed chance for great character development. Execution, execution, execution.

Certainly an interesting idea that probably could have been executed better. In many ways I blame the B-plot: it’s hard to feel like there’s a threat from a space anomaly without at least seeing what it does to a ship. I do enjoy some of the Riker and Troi moments, especially the moment where he holds her. Her anger is real: people experiencing a personal loss strike out those around them. Ultimately she learns she doesn’t need the sense to help solve the problem.

I've always found it a bit disturbing how Riker went to Troi's quarters (the second time) to give her some comfort, and within seconds was accusing her of having "control issues" and deeply criticizing her. What he said is all true, but that's hardly the time to tell her all that.

Episode is okay just okay but could probably have been written for a little bit more professional take from Troi. Shes an interesting character who its very obvious they don't really have a handle on how to write. As an aside, from here on out the episode trailer music changes. The new track is a library track called "Communique" by David Reilly.

Lots of hate on Deanna's character. To me, that's a lazy response. You may not like how she acts in this, so be it. However, she just lost a sense that she utilized quite alot in her profession. Naturally she is going to feel alot of fear and striking out at your loved ones is a normal response. Her true friends will know this and give her the leeway she needs to find her way back to a "normal" state. This story takes place in such a short period, you can't get through all the stages of grief. I don't consider her an elitist at all.

In my humble opinion: maybe the worst episode of season four. Definitely in the bottom five. Plenty of great episodes...but this ain't one of them

Troi: "How do you people live like this? No one can understand the struggle I'm going through!" (Geordi removes his VISOR and tosses it at her feet) La Forge: No one, Counselor? Troi: Oh, Geordie! La Forge: Could you pick that up for me? Woulda snapped her out of her self-pity and made the episode about living in a world not built to accomodate you and the struggle of adaptation those with disabilities, such as myself have to make, instead of struggling with the acceptance of being "normal."

As always, it's a Guinan scene that can salvage a meh episode. Guinan counseling the counselor was the highlight of the episode.

This is one of those episodes where the need to wrap everything up in 45 minutes does a disservice to the story. Troi’s reaction to losing her abilities is understandable but cramming it into too short a time makes her seem a little hysterical.

Ah, I see the TA's favorite director has returned! Surely they'll like this one just as much as the last one he did 🙃

Why was there no scene of Troi talking to La Forge about living with a disability? The man was RIGHT there in many scenes. Great as Guinan is, that scene should have been with Geordi.

I love this episode and I love how Troi acts, even in the 24th century with all its advancements suddenly developing a disability would be traumatizing. At the same time I dislike how Riker talked to her, unlike her he had no excuse to act like this, it felt like he was kicking her while she was already down.

Coming to terms with the loss of a sense must be an incredibly difficult experience and to Betazoids their empathic abilities would be like another sense. But I can't help feel they could have approached it better.

I actually enjoy this episode. I like to see how the crew comes together to solve the mystery and giving Troi a bit more is always good. It’s not perfect, and she does come off a bit (or a lot) petulant, but overall i really like this look into her personality.

D-tier. Troi acting like a rich girl without access to her credit cards, just doesn't do it for me.

I guess this is a hot take, but I like this episode a lot for the same reason that other people don't. Deanna is not a perfect victim, and I love how badly she takes her loss. Developing a disability well into adulthood is incredibly traumatizing and it was great to finally give an episode to Marina and I think she finally had a chance to really shine.

I'd say D tier but I personally can't stand Troi as a character. She's like the great value Guinan. The way she acts when she loses her power makes me like her even less.

The way Troy gets startled by Guinan reminds me of how Tam Elbran got startled by Data in Tin Man. Circumstance were a little different. However it showed how a sense you take for granted leaves a big hole when it dosent work.

I think most people consider this to be a C-tier episode, mainly because Troi doesn't rank as most people's favorite character. But I think the acting and plot is actually very solid if you apply some empathy. Imaging your whole life you can simply sense how others are feeling, and then one day, that magical ability is gone. You would feel so naked, vulnerable, lost... so Diana's reaction makes total sense. Pure panic that no one else can truly comprehend.

I love this episode. It definitely fits the "doctors make the worst patients" pattern!

This episode could have been a good hard reset for Troi if she permanently lost her abilities. It would have given her a long term character development arc in the show to try to re-learn her job without being an empath and maybe even chosing to do something else on the ship.

I think it’s really interesting. She does act bratty but from her perspective this is a career ending event, Troy does not know she’s going to get her empathic abilities back. She is so dependent on her ability to sense others emotions and feelings that she’s totally lost without that ability and she is scared, that’s why she acts so out of character. Just my 2 cents…

How do you feel about Troi’s reaction to losing her power? Some say it’s traumatizing to lose one of your senses, but I feel like her actions were bratty, petty, and inexcusable.