Mod: Secret Occults
Updated 2/12/26 - Fixes a handful of issues such as the ghosts icon being incorrect, allows you to confess to being a fairy and ghost, and limits the fairy powers to only trigger a reaction when they're in fairy form. I've also split the mod into separate parts - so you can download only vampires but no ghosts, etc., and the objects and icons are now merged into the core mod file for clarity on what is necessary and what is optional.
This mod now also requires Zerbu's Custom Preferences mod.
It's always bothered me that EA didn't make a firm decision on whether human Sims should know Occult Sims or real or not. Secret Occults is my answer to that. With this mod, your Sims choose to believe in occults or not, try to convince others to share their beliefs, and ultimately find out the truth for themselves.
For the purposes of this mod, Ghosts have not been included, but Vampires, Werewolves, Spellcasters, Mermaids, and Aliens have been supported. You need at least one of the associated packs, but of course it will be more immersive if you have many occult types.
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Core Features
Sims are auto-assigned one of three traits when you load into the game: "Believes in the Occult", "Does Not Believe in the Occult", or "Has Witnessed the Occult". Occult Sims will automatically know that they are real, but you can change other Sims preferences by shift-clicking on your Sim and locating the Secret Occults pie menu. Most Sims will not believe, but about 20% will.
Sims can discover magic is real by interacting with Occult Sims, depending on their type. Swimming close enough to a mermaid to see their tail will work as proof, or being abducted by aliens, or seeing a werewolf in their were-form. For vampires, seeing them drink plasma from a sim will work, or spellcasters using magic is also proof.
Sims may react to other strange (but not obviously magical) things occult sims do, such as werewolves howling, or vampires existing in their dark form.
There are new social interactions that appear under different circumstances. You can "Convince to Believe in Occult Sims" or "Convince to Stop Believing in Occult Sims", "Ask Occult Status", and "Ask Occult Beliefs". You can also confess to being a vampire, werewolf, alien, etc.
There is a new personality trait: "Occult Enthusiast". Occult Enthusiasts enjoy interacting with Occult Sims and can Enthuse About Occult Lore with other Sims. They also never develop a Fear of the Occult.
There is a new fear: Fear of the Occult. This develops from mean interactions with a known Occult Sim, and can be fixed by Discussing Occult Fears with a friendly Occult Sim.
Sims can like or dislike each occult type, and will get buffs when interacting or close to their liked or disliked occult type. Occult Sims will also get occasional buffs if they like or dislike their own occult type.
There are two new aspirations: Occult Enthusiast and Occult Discovery. Sims who complete the Occult Discovery aspiration gain fame, money, and receive periodic fan mail from being the first Sim to prove occults are real. Sims who complete the Occult Enthusiast aspiration gain all magical skills much more quickly and gain friendship when meeting other occults.
There is a new book: the Occult Knowledge Compendium. Your Sims can get focused buffs from reading it, and it can be purchased from any Bookshelf.
One of the packages overrides a few in-game interactions to make more sense with the mod, such as deleting the "Ask If Mermaid" interaction, because it has been replaced by the "Ask Occult Status" interaction. If you'd rather keep the in-game tuning files intact, you can delete the JS_SecretOccults_Interaction_Overrides package -- just know that some in game things may not make complete sense with the mod.
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Requirements/Installation
Please extract and drop the containing folder directly in your mods folder, not in any subfolders. This mod requires at least one pack containing an occult type, such as Vampires, Realm of Magic, or Island Living. It also requires the XML Injector. If you do not already have a copy in your game, you can get it here. You do not need more than one copy.
*** As of the latest patch, this mod also requires Zerbu's Custom Preferences Mod. ***
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Future Plans
This is a mod I would like to continue expanding over time. Right now it has only what I consider to be the most core features. If you have thoughts, wants, suggestions, please drop a note on Discord or Tumblr!
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Happy Halloween! ~JS
Comments (62)
ONE OF THE BEST OCCULT MODS! i love it! i have a small request and wish, i like to confess being a vampire but they always react very positevely, maybe it would be really nice to have a scared or disturbed reaction?
awesome mod, tysm OP.
I love this mod!! I was wondering if you ever considered adding a trait/aspiration that functions as the opposite of the occult enthusiast one? something where they hate occults/want to get rid of them? would be a really awesome feature for a medieval storyline lol. I love your mods!!
Hi , thank you for your hard work I really love playing with this mod. However I'm finding that if I put this mod in my folder all fairy socials disappear from the game. Removing the fairy package from the mod folder didn't seem to help unfortunately. I'm hoping to give you a heads up for any future updates :)
This mod is one of my 'must haves' that I always keep in my game, and I want to thank you for upkeeping it all these years. Modders like you add so much to the game to make it genuinely enjoyable on multiple fronts. Thank you so much! I and, as I can see in the comments here, also use a few other Occult related mods and I would really love if this mod had more compatibility for them. If you ever were ever interested in doing so, I'd suggest: Compatibility for Chipped Sims's 'Ghastly Ghosts' (https://chippeds-creation-corner.super.site/mods/ghastly-ghosts). Ghastly Ghosts makes ghosts invisible to most sims, unless they have certain conditions or abilities to see ghosts (children and animals can see ghosts, for instance). I would love to maybe see an add-on or module that ties Secret Occult's system to it- for instance, right now Sims are able to 'discover' ghosts even when they can't see them, but I'd love it if they instead saw the effects of what ghosts were DOING as part of the 'discovery' process. Like maybe a- "Wait, are ghosts real?" moment. I'm not sure, there's probably lots of ways to handle it, but I would love to run both these mods together :) Another is OneMoreKayaker's Aliens Reloaded (https://onemorekayaker.itch.io/aliens-reloaded). Last comment is- is there a possibility to have compatibility with the 'skeptic' trait from Life and Death? By having them resistant to changing their stance of belief/needing to test it more until they believe? Regardless, no matter what you do, taking my suggestions in mind or not, I greatly appreciate everything you've done. Have a wonderful day!
This is a wonderful idea, I love it, thank you!
Is this working after the Royalty update?
It has been updated recently, according to Scarlet's mod list
Does this mod have any correlation to the new secret system? Looks awesome.
super ! traduction française : @janesimsten merci a vous 2
Since I have a mod allowing me to directly control pets, I have noticed my black lab being amazed that spellcasters are real. Perhaps some species tests?
I know this is a serious issue, but that made me chuckle lol
Excellent update!
Thanks for the quick bug fixes!
thanks for the update! I got a question though. Does this mod conflict with ChippedSim's Ghastly Ghosts mod? I assume the vampire part not, but the ghost part?
Ever since the Feb 3rd patch the icon for Ghosts in the preferences menu shows a mermaid
Great mod, great idea. I keep getting notifications about seeing fairies even though there are none with their wings out when I check around. Thanks for the work you’ve put into this mod
Hii dear, hope you can help me out. This secret occults mod doesn't appear in the pie menu for me to change how a sim thinks about the occult. Thanks already in advance! :)
I love, love this mod, it lets me kind of put occults away without deleting them. However, the inclusion of ghosts means that I keep getting sims getting scared by ghosts that 'Happy Haunts' by ChippedSims has hidden. I wonder if it would be possible to make this mod somewhat modular so that I could toggle which occults I want to have be 'widely believed in' versus those that are still considered imaginary?
I'd love to see this mod made to work with Happy Haunts. I thought the description said ghosts were excluded. If this works for 1.118 and can be made compatible with HH, I'd really love to use it.
Hello! This is an awesome mod, I love the realism (as far as occults can be realistic) of not everyone knowing. I just wanted to let you know that I have a child sim born as a fairy to a fairy, and this child does not believe in the occult. It's no big deal at all since I can just change it via the cheat menu, but I figured I should give you a heads up if you didn't already know. Thank you!!
Hi! I love this mod sooo much! Thank you for updating. I have all the necessary things needed for the mod but it's not allowing my fairies to confess to being a fairy. Let me know if I'm possibly missing anything.
Thanks very much! Use this all the time!
Thank you for the update! This is one of my favorite mods for occult gameplay 💜
This mod is no longer working for me. Whenever I try to load a vampire family to edit them, it causes an infinite loading. I no longer have the issue when I pull this mod. :( love your mods!
Hi, do you plan to update it in the future to add fairies?
came here to ask the same thing lol
Thank you so much for this mod, it's one of my favorite! Do you know if it's compatible with Aliens Reloaded by One More Kayaker? Both would be great together!
I'm wondering the same...
does this affect magic dueling and mentoring? Because my max level spellcaster sim is unable to duel or mentor other sims
I hope you add that when someone first meets an occult sim they can have a 50/50 chance of getting the scared state where they run around screaming or the excited state where they want to know more. Like if I met a vampire I'd run for the hills but if I met an alien I'd be curious to know more.
I love this mod! It makes sense! Would it be possible to have an addon for SpinningPlumbobs occult mods? Like the fairies and whitelighters?
could you please send me the version for pre-lovestruck? im on game version 1.107.112.1030 so whichever version is before 5/28/2024. I would super appreciate it, thank you!!!
hey. I just download this mod and noticed with the moodlets about being near occults the "from being near a mermaid" one keeps appearing when my sim is near a vampire
This looks really cool! But I can’t get it to work. I can see if my sims “believe” or not but none of the social interactions show up. I’m a little new to mods so I’m pretty sure I did something wrong when adding it, do you know maybe?
I figured it out! XML wasn’t updated!!! Thank you so much for the mod!! I love occults and they’re basically all I play with so this is perfect for me!!
Hi! I want to preface by thanking you for this awesome mod! I have a couple of ideas if you want when you expand it : - it would be super cool if the fact that occult sims are secret was more active, for example spellcasters could choose to not use magic at all in front of human sims, or if they do use magic autonomously (like brooms to move around) then they could make sure to do it away from other sims so that they are not seen and found out, unless they know that sim knows about the existence of occults (like through interaction) - maybe we could choose for the world if occult sims are secret or not - have various reactions to seeing occult sims like seeing magic or their true form, like fainting, fleeing, curiosity etc. There is a mod called ghastly ghosts that makes them a bit more realistic, and not all sims can see them (only pets, occults and animals) - so for example if your mod worked with that one, when people see or just "feel" a ghost around them they could get scared, etc. - have some obsessed people with occult sims - like humans obsessed with vampires or becoming a vampire, etc I just want to say that these are just ideas, the mod is already awesome as is! Thank you for sharing it with the world :)
Could you please add an add-on or something that would "fuse" your mod with "SpinningPlumbobs' occult preferences mod" ?
I’m doing the occult aspiration and it says to get proof of occult activity by watching occult sims use their powers, I’ve done that and nothing happens. Help?
does this conflict with any of Zer0's vampire mods? (e.g. immersive vampires/vampires can kill, etc)
Does this conflict with SpinningPlumbobs' occult preferences mod? Have you considered adding support for custom occults such as Lumpinou's psychics, Triplis's sorcerers, SP's occults, Sacrificial's super sims, etc.?
I would like to know this as well..
I can't go into cas with this in as well with this mod in 😭. I love it though!
Hi Eden! Oh no! I just tested it again in my game and I'm not able to replicate. Are you getting any last exceptions? Can you confirm that you updated to the most recent patch? Any additional info would be appreciated to help me locate the problem. Thanks!
The aspirations cause the loading screen to never end when I want to enter CAS and I get UI exceptions.
Would you consider making a Supernatural Lore skill in the style of the Vampire Lore, that you need to read the Compendium to level it up? It would be an amazing fun way to expand this mod :)
Heyy, I’m having a problem, no matter how mean the interactions are with a known occult Sim, my Sims just don’t get the fear. I really want them both to be afraid of the occult, is there maybe a cheat to make it happen or anything? Btw, it’s perfect that someone made a mod like this, thank you so much! 🫶🏻
I love this Mod! Thanks so much for creating it! I just have an issue with the Occult Discovery Aspiration. My Sim needs to collect 5 Occult evidence samples. But there's no explanation on how to do that anywhere! Can you (or anybody really) tell me what to do?
Are ghosts a part of this, and, if not, would you consider making them one? If they are/if you do, I don't know if this is possible, but it would be cool if you could make it so that the For Rent haunting event could blocked if no one in the household believes in occults and if only some sims did, they would be the only ones who could confront the ghosts and/or seeing objects possessed could make them believe in ghosts.
Great mod, but if I could make a suggestion it would be nice if it included and supported custom occults from mods like Fairies vs Witches for example
i ADORE this mod! i do have one question/suggestion though, is there a way to toggle off the fan mail for sims that have become occult researchers? i completed the aspiration for the research side of things, not the fame so it's become a bit annoying that my sim receives so much stuff in the mail daily. if there's no way to disable it, then i highly recommend adding one.
Does this conflict with nerf mods for vampire / werewolf / occult instant dislike mods?
Thanks for the amazing mod! I have made a translation into Russian - http://sims4.vpstd.ru/product/translation-the-secret-occultists/
Hello Jane. I've made the Dutch Translation for this amazing mod! you can find it here: http://www.simfileshare.net/download/4360657/
I'm having an issue where my pets keep triggering the occult proof thing, over and over.
I'm experiencing the same issue.
thank you so much for this mod! adds so much depth to occult playing! i've run into things i'm not sure are bugs tho: when encountering pre-existing household ghosts from a save file i downloaded, my sim didn't fullfil the "get proof occults are real" aspiration step. even talking to the ghost and asking their occult status didn't seem to trigger anything [they said 'we're both humans', and even mocked me for believing in ghosts lol]; i understand mermaids, aliens, werewolfs and vampires won't reveal their secret until higher levels of friendship, but being ghost an obvious status, why doesn't encountering/meeting one immediatly counts as occult proof?
Hello Jane. Here's the link to my French translation of the Secret Occult mod. Thanks for this great mod. Kisses Miyaji. https://www.patreon.com/posts/secret-occults-92968238?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
This mod it´s so Amazing! so I had to make my Spanish Translation https://www.patreon.com/posts/secretos-ocultos-93026764 I am your fan
this is so TVD i love it
Thank you for your work ! The only additional feature I can see right now would be occult reunion "event", like a gathering of vampires, doing vampires stuff. Someone could spot them ? Or maybe, the whole occult view point, like "discuss about boring non-occult life", or "envy having a normal/open life", "should we come out to the world ?", etc. Did you disabled bar's special alien discount ? I don't see the dowload link...
Hey! Thank you so much for these ideas, I'll definitely look at adding them into an update :) The download link should be attached to this post. Let me know if you have trouble finding it!
