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July 10, 2025

Progress Report July I

Sup guys! Unfortunately, not ready to release.

I mean sure, the weather has been sorta tricky at the start (frequent black outs in the villages near Los Mochis, Sinaloa) but I just switched from desktop to laptop so i dont lose any progress from sudden power outages. Only lost progress the first time.

I wasnt aware of the rainy storm season and its effects on the grid here as I was only visiting in the winter months beforehand.

Hell, since I sometimes lose internet access at random, I downloaded Kiwix to have access to an offline wiki when I need information regarding stuff like Philosophy (as youll see why in an example down below). I highly recommend this if you want to download wikipedia! Just good to have imo.

Anyways, enough about that:

Let's see, from where you guys left off..

Master Feren tells us some words of wisdom, but-

He gets cut off by Baraka!

Baraka will be a very interesting character to write in the future, especially as you'll soon find out more about his beliefs. Master Feren can be described more as a rock, steady and sure of the ground around him and in tune with nature.

Baraka however, questions everything and distrusts the world around him, especially people.

...as you can see.

The philosophy of the two scholars reflect the environment around them, as it has affected the philosophers in the centuries before them. They're surrounded by nobility who possess the ability to impose their will, who have been literally Blessed by the Goddess.

This has then formed the basis of what we here on Earth call the "Great Man Theory", in Narethian Philosophy.

Know however, that Master Feren refers to them as "Heroes" and Baraka "Shepherds".

But HOW this "Great Man Theory" philosophy should be approached by said "great people" is what is up for discussion by the great thinkers of the day.

Baraka is unique in that he says "fuck that great man shit" and pushes for the law itself to be supreme.

Like the story says, this has created backlash enough for him to be quiet with those ideas... at least until the day arrives society is turned upside down, and "great men" begin waging endless war with one another.

You'll find out more about this as you can choose whether or not to align yourself with one way of thinking or not. For now, because I'm still unsure whether or not to make it more important (ie make more work for myself), it only affects faction relationships and character relationships while also explaining the history regarding the two ideologies.

This may seem a bit unnecessary right now, but the philosophy aspect is integral for the characters of the story, particularly Belthean characters.

Moving on...

You then move the scene along, either putting in your own input or by just hurrying them along to see your father.

We finally see dad again, and find him hard at work. Baraka and Master Feren already know that the kingdom will change once all this business is over, but they know not how. And theyre right to not guess, as our decisions in the three routes will domino effect into the future in ways unforeseen.

DISCLAIMER: I'm honestly not sure about having the physical traits be used yet/at all. It's part of the reason i've been "slower" for this week as ive been judging and tinkering with how to utilize it. The MC is already canonically beautiful/handsome, and they're set as at least having an athletic build no matter the route. It really doesn't help that it's alot of coding/branching, and it could slow progress down further. I really want to hear your thoughts first before coming to a conclusion and deciding whether or not to keep it. For now, as of this Progress Update drop, i'll simply continue with the story in the Squire Route so im not bogged down at this section anymore.

Physical variables!

I almost went with the decision of being super accommodating and letting players pick the exact height they wanted, and then categorizing the trait groups but that was a bit too much. Instead, there's three choices in regards to height!

GIANT: You're what people think of when imagining the Wreathed.

Normal: Due to Argentian ancestry youre still considered tall to Beltheans.

GREMLIN:

If i go with this height system, it will let me actually have fun with the flavor text/reactions/changes in scenes so i enjoy writing said scenes! Just again, please remember that this may not stick for the actual update release.

Then of course you have the option of choosing between Muscular or Lean.

If you think muscles are gross, just pick lean lol

For now, I dont think you should be able to choose to NOT be physically fit. It just doesnt make sense story-wise. If you wanna try to convince me, you can try but no promises. Remember, i may even remove the options altogether due to scope-creep issues.

Again, there COULD be more variables in the future that detail more physical characteristics such as bust and rear size, however that is not very important to the story yet. Also consider we are 14 years old in the story thus far, it's uncomfortable on my part to describe the MC as having an hour-glass figure, a femboy, etc.

So those details would appear later.

For now, I have the scene with Uriel explaining the problems with the kingdom and how our grandfather is coming back from his duties with the church to aid us, and the start of the Squire Route of us meeting the other Squires. It's going through changes atm due to me being really stumped lately with this physical trait question since there's alot of lil bits where they comment on your size.

The above, plus the Squire Route sequence, all total around 6k words atm, and alot of it is/was spread out in choice trees or *if statements (being half the reason for no update yet since there's barely enough for about 20 min of playthrough from where you left off)

That's why im just jumping ahead from that scene forward until i hear a bit from yall! I'm lucky enough that the Squire Route stuff is like, just working for me in terms of easy writing and smooth going. It's just more fun yanno?

Maybe I don't feel confident about the physical traits stuff cause I just wanna deliver updates and I know that would slow me down. It's also frustrating to have spent so much time on this with little to show for it to the point im moving forward in the story without an update for yall.

Sorry guys.

Another important thing, I'm returning to the states Monday!

Normally I'd be excited, but I'm really worried about coming back due to my Mexican heritage (am citizen but racial profiling be like...) I'm really hoping it all goes well and the process works as it should.

If however I actually get sent to the gulag...

Please, youll probably be my only hope at that point lmfao

The poll ends in 24 hours from now. I need to hear what yall think first so I can properly fix everything as soon as possible and continue correctly.

Comments (21)

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Adam Klaits · July 11, 2025

It's interesting to note that Feren's (and to a lesser extent Baraka's) philosophy deals primarily with the behavior of the ruler -- seeing that as the most important factor in the wellbeing of society. This makes sense given the socioeconomic conditions of Nareth (not to mention the literal magic artifacts granted to people of certain bloodlines), but I wonder if the MC with their knowledge of Earth history and philosophy might posit a more systemic view of society. Plus I want to see how Feren and Baraka would react to the heir of an absolute monarchy starting to spout ideas of democracy and the inherent equality of all people.

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Sariel · July 11, 2025

Would modern democracy actually work in Nareth though? The society structure + education levels aren't so high for the system itself to work. Otherwise you'll end up with a clown as your leader. Though the feudal system COULD theoretically be abolished with either Theocracy, Autocracy or Constitutional Monarchy replacing it. We'll have to wait and see.

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Loghainfury · July 10, 2025

I see Baraka is a supporter of the principle of the "Rule of Law". In any case for the phisical trait i agree with the general consensum. So far what matter is the height, but i can see the musclar/athletics can be relevant in the squire path, in combination with the fighting style. However it's also true it will add some heavy work which may turn to be unecessary along the line. You can partially follow the approach of wftw MC, where what matter there is just the combat stat and sometimes equipment + the choice during the middle of the battle, even if there are still some hints about the MC (for example they aren't a giant neither are a Robert Baratheon in term of phisical strenght).

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Kainufc2 · July 10, 2025

As many have said don’t worry too much about how long it takes between updates I think we all care a lot more about the quality when it arrives not how fast your able to give it to us. Excited to see what you come up with in the squire route. Also as many have said the physical trait stuff is a good addition flavour text is the best text makes your character feel personal to what you’ve created. Good luck in your progress and hope the journey to the states is a comfortable one!

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Bessie Burnet · July 10, 2025

I mean, MC is only 14. They're still a growing lad/lass. Hairstyle and stuff could stay. But maybe height and build could be later? They're a young teen, not a young adult.

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Arielle's Quill · July 10, 2025

I voted to keep the features, but like many I think you should keep them generic. At 14, nothing is set in stone, you'll have time to develop them in more detail later. I'm sure you've already made up your mind by now, but I wanted to take part anyway. As for the rest, come to France, we've got 🍪? 🤣 no seriously be careful, take your time writing, no pressure. ( I'm returning your own advice 🙂😉)

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Kingdoms and Empires · July 10, 2025

Thank you Ari ❤️

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Row · July 10, 2025

I think keeping the bare bones of physical traits works for now. You can try them out and implement the rest over time or at a critical point like the birthday or academy. Also having a body that's over/under weight work as a secret option if you choice that specific outcast back story. You could even have it as an early cohesion check, negative shows self loathing at not escaping your habits even in a new life. Positive they grumble about it being a cruel cosmic joke.

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Kingdoms and Empires · July 10, 2025

Ohhh that's a nice idea! Ill do what the others suggest for now, and if i feel like i can include that i will! Super interesting and very in theme with the callbacks!

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GabiBlu · July 10, 2025

if u end up in alligator alcatraz ill come get u pookie

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Kingdoms and Empires · July 10, 2025

Yo, you made me wake up my sis from the laugh i just had lmfao

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DiamondStar · July 10, 2025

Just take your time. I personally care more about the quality of writing, so I'm willing to wait as long as it takes if it means getting the best story possible.👍 As for the physical traits, I think that at 14 years old, it would be better to do basic stuff (like height) and add more descriptive features (such as muscle build) when MC is older. I did vote to keep the physical traits, but in regards to height, I prefer the GIANT, NORMAL, GREMLIN system you suggested. I really want to make my princess a shorty. Makes it easier for people to underestimate her and let their guards down.😇

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Kingdoms and Empires · July 10, 2025

First of all, thank you ❤️❤️❤️ Some have suggested an excellent compromise of keeping it basic for now with a choice to change it later on! I think I have the road set for me now and know where to go forward. I’m really happy I asked the community cause I was stuck

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Ciaran Sandelin · July 10, 2025

How long is the squire route supposed to be?

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Kingdoms and Empires · July 10, 2025

Minimum 50k words, max 100k! Same with all the two other routes!

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shay · July 10, 2025

Considering MC is only 14 at this point, I don't think it's too important to focus on the physical traits as so much can still change, and with the fact that MC is fit either way. Height can matter at 14- and ngl the idea of being short at 14 and then shoot up later is a hilarious thought, or MC being tall at 14 and never growing another inch and ending up short as an adult- but somehow make it simple for yourself. Just short or tall for a 14 year old and then you can go more in depth when MC becomes an adult. And then you can also (if you want!) have fun reactions of people responding to the change. The philosphy aspect is interesting and does feel like it matters in this kind of story. MC's that have a philosophy they like vs how they act, or MCs that strictly follow their philosophy. The two options too, I can already see how my MCs will go (I have 2 and one is gonna want the Open Palm, tho unsure how it will last in practice, and the other is ready to just Iron Fist their way through because somebody has to make and shoulder the choices). Thank you for the update! Hope you stay safe and well, and dry.

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Kingdoms and Empires · July 10, 2025

Yup, I was thinking of just pushing it to 18 at first, but this idea of just making the choice bare bones and THEN letting you choose if they explode in height later on sounds HILARIOUS to me! Thank you so much! And thank you for your input regarding the philosophical paths, I think it’s perfectly said👌

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Zach Sellers · July 10, 2025

I agree with the others to a point like now we as mc are starting to get known so we need it now. But definitely if not now at 18. Plus at 14 these traits could lead to fucking interesting interactions if you write it right.

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Adam Klaits · July 10, 2025

I voted to keep the physical traits, but I think that only the height is needed at this point. Muscular/lean seems fairly irrelevant most of the time. And we can get more details when MC is fully grown.

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Parson · July 10, 2025

I feel like it’s kinda relevant in the route and maybe prince route just cause MCs going to be doing a lot of fighting so like you said people commenting on their build BUT definitely not a lot or often (since they have bigger fish to fry and MC is still a kid). Honestly KaE has been so amazing written both this version and the last I never really paid attention to any physical traits (never even crossed my mind) besides the hair and eyes since they play an important part and still even now didn’t think about it before this post. I think the physical traits are going to be more important when MCs older and actually start interacting with their peers and the ROs. I feel it’ll be important when you’re writing the interactions with the ROs more than anything especially the more intimate moments for example; height difference when kissing ROs and flings (will MC have to look up or will they be doing the tilting the chin move like a true fuckboy 😎, descriptions of MCs body when they’re putting that thang thang down on an RO or fling especially since they’ll most likely have scars you will have to describe about). So overall yes I think it’s something to think about and implement but I don’t think you should be stressing about it just yet Flame, at least not too much.

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Kingdoms and Empires · July 10, 2025

Damn dude, it feels like this is the best path. Thank you for writing it so well!