So It Begins....
At first I thought the 'guidelines' were just that, 'guidelines' as opposed to any sort of contractual obligations, and then I thought that if they were contractual obligations then they only had legal jurisdiction over anything posted or gained from Patreon itself.
But it seems that indeed, one of the creators I follow, formerly known as 'Horny Family' a game as you can imagine by the title was about [CENSORED BY PATREON] type sex was forced to be modified by patreon in order that the creator could carry on earning.
My friends and patrons when it comes to politics I detest the game, but if we do not play it our enemies will have us looking like villains.
The wording of the so called guidelines is so vague as to be unenforceable, or simply to be enforced over those creators they don't like, in a word: Fascism. I'm Libertarian, I should be free without interference to create what I want as long as it does not force another living person to be harmed, and you as consumers have the right to choose to play follow and support whomever you so wish to do so, with YOUR money!
But another Libertarian belief is the idea of the free market...if Patreon wishes to shoot itself in the foot and to lose revenue, then I will simply go to it's competitor: Hatreon, or other such places.
Noli me tangere.
-Apo
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Sigh....I'm beginning to sound like Milo Yiannopoulous so I'm gonna go out an get some takeaway. Just my luck there will be someone outside the place saying I can't have any because it is bad for me and that I should have salads instead. :-)
they censored your post
the following is a response from the founder of patreon ......... <a href="https://patreonhq.com/a-note-to-our-adult-content-creators-abef831380e3" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://patreonhq.com/a-note-to-our-adult-content-creators-abef831380e3</a> In that he explains his position ,but i get the feeling he is not telling the whole story .
I have saved that, thank you for that. Interesting they define pornography as 'real people engaging in sexual acts'. We will see what happens I suppose.
funny how the so called conservative religious right ,says they want smaller government and less restrictions , then demands more restrictions on porn and free speech that they find offensive , what happened to live and let live ????? if it offends you don't look at it its that simple , this argument well think of the children,is just an excuse to censor ,anything they don't like ,,For Patreon to act like this is going to cost them big time ,there are other crowd funding sites out there with less restrictions ,if they are not careful this will be a big hit in the wallet .......
That's just the thing though, some people think it was the religious right wing bible belt of the US type people and some are pointing to the left wing, there are more than 2 genders, you can identify as snake-kin rather than human, all white people are racist, feminists, BLM, antifa. Nutcases either way because either side wants to enforce their views on everyone else. I did some digging of course and Patreon is based out of San Fran, california, the most left wing state in the US so personally I think it isn't the religious right this time. Either way as the saying goes...when the governments boot is on your neck, whether it is the left or right boot is of no consequence.
While I am not a particular fan of the situation and guidelines, I can understand them and how they (Patreon) is being forced to adhere to those guidelines or suffer losing their Internet Merchant Account (IMA)... the guidelines that Patreon is forcing on us is likely being forced upon them by the banks that run the charges through the IMA... But... even if it wasn't... this is their business and they have a right to run it they way they feel they need to run it. Is it a pain-in-the-ass for us? Absolutely... but this is THEIR site, not ours, so they make the rules and if we want to play the game, we have to play it their way... or find a place where we can, or start our own... like it or not, we have to play the game and the cards dealt to us... that's life.
Indeed, just we all can set the terms of a contract to do business so too can we choose to take business elsewhere. I find fault with the decision not their power to make that decision.
Wasn’t Patreon better without these guidelines? I didn’t see no sort of problems about adults game when they were no guidelines. They were doing fine until the guidelines limits them from expressing what there game can show. Such shame :(
It was fine and then someone probably kicked up a stink about something they didn't like, spat their dummy out and had a tantrum to Patreon or Government or some other big daddy figure that will magically make the bad parts of life go away. :-)
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I completely agree with you man, I think it is just ridiculous what patreon is doing.