Gay Archetypes 1.3H Masc, Femme,Tops and Bottoms
Hey All!
This update is subtle yet potent, with alot of things going on in the background!
It required a lot of experimentation and research on my part but my hope is it'll make all the different archetypes much more impactful. Previously various traits had instilled different walk styles depending on the stereotypes of the traits. However this didn't always workout the way I anticipated, leading to masculine sims with feminine walk styles. So I decided to add a dynamic Masc and Femme scale as well as an attraction scale. These hidden commodities fluctuate depending on the sims mood, needs, fashion choices, and activities, but more importantly the company they keep and the sims they find attractive. Lifting weights for example will start pushing your sim towards masc, while trying to stay trim on the treadmill will push them towards Fem. Staying on top of your hygiene pushes you towards fem, while staying musky pushes sims towards masc. Being around your buddies masc buddies watching the game will pull you towards masc, while kiking with your best squirrel friends will pull your sims towards fem. Wearing bright colors and keeping your hair long will push your sims towards fem, while darker colors and shorter hairstyles will push your sim towards masc.
Meanwhile seeing a sim that they're attracted to will push their attraction score towards that kind of sim, and even more so when flirting with or even bedding sims. As your sims attraction score shifts so too do their WW Attractiveness preferences shift towards more feminine or masculine traits.
Most of the preexisting Archetype will add multipliers either towards masc or fem as well as attraction. Generally speaking, the bigger and hairier a sim is the more masc their percieved, while smaller and more stylish sims sims will be seen as more femme. Younger sims are more fluid in their presention, while older sims will be much more rigid. Closeted sims, Jocks and Gay bros will tend more towards masc, while circuit queens, drag queens, and Self Identified F*gs will tend more towards Fem. Fem boy is now acheived from being a feminine teen.
The Bottom to Top scale works much in the same while. Unfortunately I don't have testing which sim is topping during animations (I literally DM'd turbodriver about it and even he can't do it yet.) but I can read and adjust the setting set in Preferences, which determines which role your sims start in autonomously. The sexual position scores are therefore more so determined by outside the bedroom factors such as hunger, hygeine and bladder needs, losing or taking someones virginity, sexual satisfaction, reaction buffs to big and small penis etc. etc. During Anal sex animations (something I can test for) theirs a chance for... some messiness to happen. This will impact your sims satisfaction, drain their hygiene, and make them think twice about bottoming or topping (depending on what trait they have). Sims can of course prepare for anal sex with a new custom "Clean Out for Bottoming" Interaction that can be done during the shower. This should prevent signifcantly reduce the chance of "messy sex" occuring. If your sim has a Pig trait however, they want be bothered by this happening.
All of these can be set and locked in preferences in CAS. I highly recommend an unlimited preferences mod in order to refine these choices to your exact preference!
Comments (9)
Also, I don't know if it supposes do this, but it keeps randomizing my traits.
Correct. It suppose to be that way to give a sense of dynamics. As a Sim goes on they may be a S.I.F or a Twink at one point in their lives, but than can move along the spectrum to be like a Daddy or Bear.
quick question, Do I download 1.3a through H or just H
Just H!
Speaking of Feminie, apparently there is a mod I have that is conflicting with ChrisPyre_GayArchetypes_AddFeminineActivities tuning. Sims After Dark is checking into it as I type and I will let you know what Mod maybe conflicting with it.
Thank you for this Chris! I was wondering, is there a way ( or will you do something about it in the future) to bypass some of the assigned traits? I have three teens without a single body hair ( not even public hair yet ), they have twunk body types, and they are always assigned as otters haha! It’s not a big deal but a bit annoying :p Just like I was able to remove the feminine trait on one of them without your mod automatically reassigned it ( I like that I was able to do that, even on a twink, you can totally be a twink and not be feminine ) Anyway thank you, I really appreciate what you are doing with this mod 🫡
So fem and masc work on a different system than the body type traits which is why you were able to remove it but actually the actual effects are generated from hidden buffs the game might still be considering them to be femine. You can however force a sims gender expression and even lock in their preferences in CAS. Just hit no on "do traits determine gender presentation." As for the rest of the traits, i'm gonna have to think on the best way to implement on opt out of certain traits, just because there are so. That being said, your sims shouldn't be getting otter without body hair! Can you send me the outfit details of the offending sim? (In MCCC it would be Commands>Logging Commands> Log Outfit Details. It'll generate a .info file in the same folder you keep the mccc mod file.)
Woooow. I do like this a lot! I do appreciate how you tried to make gender expression (masc/femme) more fluid in the background. Let's be honest, base game wise, it's kinda rigid and taunt. Besides just wear certain clothing, I don't think there is an earnest spectrum for expression. Especially one as detail as specs of this mod; it's even more detail in that it depends on Sims actions. Like holy FUCK. Kudoz, Chris. When I get home from my ATL trip, I will be sure to download it, ready to test and let ya know if there any bugs, if any, I detect. I have my net ready. Haha 😜
honestly a lot of what my goal mod is has been to add nuance to both base game and ww gameplay. I've found the attraction system to particularly shallow and heteronormative and have been wantin to find ways to queer it up a bit.