March 16, 2024

ATTENTION! PLEASE READ:

Now that I have your attention UuU n

In lieu of Patreons new utterly untenable TOS fuck-up, I am planning to change the Subscription Tiers as follows:

-Iron Tier:  Low res Pics -AND- Comics that are registered Patreon Safe early.

-Silver Tier:  Full res Pics, Comics, AND WIPS that are registered Patreon Safe.

-Adamantine Tier:  All of the above, and all members of this tier will be given a link (via DM) to a new Telegram channel where I will upload all the more risqué content I make in full resolution.  I shall be unbound here, and I have many ideas @u@

This saves me from having to uproot, and it saves you from having to make a new account elsewhere.  This seems like the least pain in the ass way to deal with this.

Please please PLEASE leave me your feedback on this idea below!  I'll absolutely take your suggestions if you have better ideas.  I want everyone to be happy with this before I pull the trigger.


Comments (47)

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Kabbalist · April 30, 2024

Well, I know I'm fairly new here, but I would be willing to take my subscription up a notch if you decide to go with the Telegram reserve idea for your spicier work.

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FORGE · May 1, 2024

It may not be necessary! Cross fingers.

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Dion · March 20, 2024

I don‘t know if I‘m allowed to say something and I don‘t know exactly how the rule applies. But if the characters only have to give verbal consent, would it be enough to just make a quick sketch of the characters where they do exactly that and put this as the first image? Respectively just make an alt version of the artwork and give them speech bubbles where they consent, if it has to be said in every artwork. You then put the real version in the files? I don‘t know how the algorithm works, which is supposed to find that either. Filtering through furry art of so many styles seems impossible, so it actually has to be people behind doing it. And if so, every method might be found out eventually. Moving to another platform might be the only option in a long term. I don‘t want to miss out on your art, especially the NC stuff…

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FORGE · March 20, 2024

I actually dont know if thats enough. It might be. But dont worry, you wont miss anything Ill make sure.

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Brynthian · March 18, 2024

Good luck. Other artists I follow do this and it's not great (I for one am not downloading your great work, I just like to see it on here from time to time). However, please be careful. I've seen two just get booted from Patreon for simple adult content. Document as many of your supporters as possible so you don't lose track of us.

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Dotts · March 17, 2024

Between telegram or discord, I'd much prefer a telegram channel, I think it works better for an art feed type of thing.

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sabi · March 17, 2024

It seems to me like a good compromise for a shitty situation, thought I think a discord server would work better than a telegram link. If you use discord you can create channels related to each tier. That way you can keep the same tier structure with their related rewards. I don't know if Patreon would allow the integration though or if it would be in violation of the ToS

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FORGE · March 17, 2024

Im giving that some consideration. Though it may be as simple as a mass DM to that tier with a link to the rewards.

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Horse Man · March 17, 2024

I'm a moron when it comes to a lot of the on line services and how they work. It seems everyone wants to control everyone. As a Libertarian I find this type of behavior so Jr. High School. As long as I can enjoy my adult artwork I appreciate the work and effort you're putting in to make the change as seamless as possible.

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Vinick · March 17, 2024

Subscribestar is an option, but at the moment, it does seem like your idea is the most concrete and immediate.

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FinneganKeeley · March 17, 2024

Id love to see a Telegram group of yours

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FinneganKeeley · March 17, 2024

I wanna see you unleashed despite the BD fetish OwO

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Eppy NWS · March 16, 2024

I have seen a few artists do The Most Pain In The Ass Thing that seems to be the most bullshit proof: Set up their own website with Everything (the whole back catalog, organized in galleries, sketches, animations, games, etc), and use Verotel/VTSup (European CC processor) to work out the 'Art Here, gib money' membership for fans to throw money at the art-stripper pole and get access to the champagne website with all the good stuff. They still use patreon and subscribestar and gumroad and whatever rotating wheel of enshittifying services that will occasionally audit all the smut-artists whenever some Venture Capitalist or Payment Processor is like "I saw something that was too kinky and still felt funny in my no no parts so I don't wanna give you any of my spare money anymore"... but all roads lead back to ForgeWalfhammerArt.com or whatever and the hook is basically "well, if you want to spend [highest tier] you can go to my website and see a whole bunch of stuff you won't even get here at [not main website]." And then instead of telling folks "aww shit, patrostar hit me with a banhammer, move over to gumtreon where I'll send you links to my DropBox until they get wise and kick me out when their TOS shift...!" you can just go "well, I'm other places, but if you head over to my website you won't have to move again."

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Karew · March 16, 2024

I would not make any changes until Patreon forces you. Make them explain the specific things you have to address in a support message if you get a notice. Also I would vastly prefer a Discord channel over Telegram if you have to post stuff elsewhere.

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

Could be convinced to do both. I know some people dont have telegram.

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Lion Panthera · March 16, 2024

Well, as a Silver Hammer, I guess I'm a bit disappointed. I doubt that many people subscribed for the "Safe" stuff. This means we'll be losing out on stuff we used to get before?

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

Only the hard kink stuff.

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Paul Oliveira Jr · March 16, 2024

I think this is a good idea you have come up with Forge. I plan to keep supporting artists such as yourself, regardless of the stupid decisions of corporate executives, in whatever way I can.

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Kalenidus · March 16, 2024

Sounds like a good stop-gap measure until a more suitable, long-term solution comes up! I'm so pissed off at what all these content sites are doing...

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

As long as the solution involves relaxing the TOS. Its absurd now.

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Dissonance · March 16, 2024

Good luck to you Forge and to all the amazing creators out there. ❤️🍀 The internet is becoming more sterile with each passing day.

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Vinick · March 17, 2024

It's called the enshitification. Anything that lasts a certain period of time goes through it.

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Mako Aluveaux · March 16, 2024

So iron tier won't get any adult content anymore?

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

It absolutely will. Loads. Giggity.

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I · March 16, 2024

Well this sucks. Didn't know about the TOS changes until now. Any price change in the tiers?

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

I was going to but you can't change the price without deleting the tier and everyone who is subbed to it. Retooling the rewards is all I can do :S

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Hawse · March 16, 2024

Works for meeeeeeee

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Mooba · March 16, 2024

Seems fine to me honestly, as long as it isn't PrimeLeap...

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

Whats that?

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stalfos · March 16, 2024

I know you're not being given much of a choice but I'm not a fan of having to scour through Telegram to see and save the content I'm paying for. With Patreon or Subscribestar.adult I have automated tools that take care of it for me.

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

The channel will be nothing but artwork, much like my WIP channel. It will be no different from scrolling here, if more convenient since all your tiers content will be in one place.

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MTR · March 16, 2024

I have one concern tho, hasn't Patreon been notorious for going after creators on other platforms and banning them for posting content that isn't in accordance with their bullshit puritan guidelines there? So like, if you distribute invites through patreon to places where you post stuff they don't like, isn't that a fasttrack to getting banned here? I mean, it's at least some layer of protection I guess, I just don't know how long it holds up.

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Deviant · March 16, 2024

I have the same concerns. I have heads stories of people being punished for off platform content

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Nick H · March 16, 2024

What exactly is the type of content that will no longer be allowed here, and will be moved to Telegram?

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

its now verboten to depict sex between people without clear verbal consent. In addition to the other things they didn't allow before. I'll be posting Certain things that I havent been able to draw anyway like maybe NC stuff. More kink and fetish stuff for sure.

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Ardex · March 16, 2024

I'm apparently a little out of the loop. Can someone explain 'Patreon Safe' first of all? Needing to be in the Adamantine tier to see anything else feels a bit excessive, though I suppose it depends what exactly is being filtered into it.

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

Any sexual content between two or more that does not depict verbal consent is now banable. And most kinks.

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JinoTheStray · March 16, 2024

And just like that I've upgraded, lol.

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

Hell yeah haha. I haven't implemented it yet though.

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Revus Caeldas · March 16, 2024

You wont be uploading everything here anymore then? :((

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

There's still tons I'll upload here. But a lot of what I used to do just isn't allowed any more.

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Lurkybot3k · March 16, 2024

I downloaded TG last night because of all this BS. I'm in.

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Decca · March 16, 2024

I understand that you need to find the best way to continue feeding us with your art, especially the hottest one. I think is fine.

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Ty'ren Horusk · March 16, 2024

I think this idea is great, way better than you having to completely uproot yourself from patreon

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RJ Tremor · March 16, 2024

Gotta do whatcha gotta do. Ugh, everyone on the internet’s turning Puriteen.

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4ourhead · March 16, 2024

I like it

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FORGE · March 16, 2024

You like it? 8v