Video tutorial: how to install the mod and optimize Indiana Jones for VR

Running on RTX 5090 with AMD Ryzen 9 X3D. Horizon Zero Dawn works flawlessly though.

It was fixed in the latest versions. So just use that. Either public or EA version should work with Indy at this point

No ETA yet. Hopefully soon.

Have you tried lowering graphics settings and raising resolution using the PPD slider in the REAL overlay? What resolution does it say you are playing at there? It is a pretty heavy game on performance, especially with all the settings turned up. Have you tried using FSR? Optiscaler also works for this game, so you can use DL(S)SS which is a bonus. If you want to try and install that and get it working, let me know. I haven't heard back from a couple people yet on if they got the newest Optiscaler version working. You would try selecting Optiscaler.asi as the name when installing it and DLSS as the upscaler of course. Then, there is the matter of rendering mode. If you haven't tried different ones, that will be another thing to sort out. Go with either the default 1/3 or Legacy at first as they will give you better performance over 1/2. When you get things sorted with settings and resolution, rendering mode will be another piece of the puzzle to figuring out performance and your preference. 1/2 and 1/3 both add frame interpolation for added smoothness and fluidity to make it feel like you are playing at 2 or 3x the fps you are getting. They have to hit the refresh rate cap consistently to work correctly to do that. If you are set at 90hz, 1/2 would need a stable 90fps always and 1/3 would need 60fps always to function properly. 1/2 is heavier to run because of the higher cap, but you can move down to a lower refresh if your headset has it. Legacy is basic AER, so you will have motion jitter/reprojection because you are getting 45fps per eye at 90fps. Figuring out what rendering mode you prefer along with resolution and game settings is the best place to start. Mono is also a choice, but it has no Stereo 3d because it is the render from one eye, but it is there and some people prefer using it because it looks essentially perfect and you are still playing from the perspective of a camera inside the game. There are other depth cues besides stereo3d your brain uses and for some people those are picked up enough that they don't seem to notice a big difference.

No, I don't believe so. You should be able to leave your monitor as is and just set the resolution using the PPD slider in the REAL overlay. You can set the game to 1920x1080 in settings and have your monitor at 4k.

You need to use VDXR and Oculus runtime if you are using Virtual Desktop. VDXR in the streamer app and then Oculus runtime in the REAL overlay, which it should default to with VDXR hopefully. If that doesn't work, please put a copy of your RealVR64.log file on pastebin and post a link to it here. Screen shots of your in-game display and graphics settings would be great as well. Sometimes, restarting your system after installing helps too :)

Sorry for the late reply. Did you get things figured out? Are you using an up to date version of the game? Version 2.2? Also, are you using the latest version of the REAL mod? 20.2.0

You are most likely using the default 1/3 rendering mode, which locks to 60fps if your HMD is set to 90hz. You can use 1/2 to still interpolate frames for added fluidity and smoothness or you can go with Legacy rendering mode with locks at 90 but doesn't have the interpolation. Legacy is the most performant of the Stereoscopic options but is less fluid and has motion jitter. Just look for the rendering mode dropdown in the main tab of the REAL overlay.

Still working for me. It was not starting for Luke after the previous update on a 5090 but started working again after the recent update, so not sure what happened there. If you are getting poor performance, double check your settings to make sure they didn't change somehow. You can rename dxgi.dll to dxgi_bak.dll to launch flat and adjust things outside of VR. Rename back to get into VR again.

Are you using the latest version of the mod? 19.0.2?

Are you the same person that already figured this out? :) I can't remember. You double clicked the file instead of right clicking and running as admin?

Make sure you are using the latest version of the mod and choose to delete settings after you update the files and run the config file again. Also, a good idea to double check that you're in game settings match the release post. Sometimes disabling Steam Input can help with controller issues, or disabling and then enabling it again. Usually, a good idea to post under a newer Patreon post so it is easily seen ;)

Have you tried doing a search on this issue in general? There are a number of things you can try if your system won't run .bat files.

Can you put a copy of the log file on pastebin and post a link here please? That way I can look at the whole thing. Please don't paste the actual file contents here as it takes up a lot of space :) Did you watch the install video and adjust the settings while running the game flat first?

Wait what? Should we disable SSW in virtual desktop when using AER1/2 or 1/3?

There is a lot of head bob in this game, and I can also feel it after a while. When I was testing, I started feeling just a tad queasy after an hour or so. I looked it up and it bothers people flat as well. I don't know about maps or tasks looking doubled that sounds like a setup or settings issue possibly. Unless you mean the HUD and descriptions??? Things like the journal or physical maps you look down at, that is just where the game puts them, and you have to look forward somewhat and turn your head to see them properly unfortunately.

Hopefully soon. I don't know if the newest update broke anything again. Hopefully soon though.

It was broken by the latest game update. I already emailed Luke about it. If you are on Steam, you can roll the game back. I posted a video link a couple posts down from yours.

It is currently broken after the latest game update a couple days ago or so. Hopefully we get a fix from Luke soon.

Also in middle of the game. (game pass) fingers crossed its an easy fix for luke. Hope to hear an update soon.

The game runs after several minutes but not to hmd. I tried to run realconfig.bat again but it didn't help. Thank you for help. 😌

Brandon wrote yesterday that he informed Luke by email, the main question is, what I really hope is that it is possible to fix it, not that it was deliberately patched like that and it will never work again, that would be very sad, we have to wait

Yup, I'll email the Luke and let him know ;)

I'm going to guess... no.... and no :) I don't think he can just simply teach you how to make the mods. Some of the stuff is just tedious repetitive work but it is a lot of reverse engineering and figuring things out each time also. There is a reason so few people are doing it 😂 But if you want to learn how to make mods, I wish you all the luck in the world man. We need more modders! Flat2VR discord would be a great place to find out specific things you would need to focus on learning. I think they actually have modding channels for that.

Just set SteamVR as your openXR runtime in the SteamVR settings and then use OpenXR from the runtime dropdown at the top of the main tab of the REAL overlay.

Yes, please try on an updated version of the game. I will need a link to the pastebin file :)

Haven't heard anything either way.

Cool, should be quite a jump from a 3080. Hope you enjoy it!

Do you mean the HUD elements or something? I'm thinking many of the HUD/map/2D elements are sometimes simply beyond modification. Luke can't change the code, only it's output.

Assassins creed unity would be great! Exploring 1789's Paris would be an amazing experience.

The game is very popular, so a VR mod for it might attract new patreons. And multiple people here are mentioning KDC2. Let's hope there will be some kind of poll in the near future where we can vote.

Ive had the same thoughts mainly with Cyberpunk and many others like Uncharted 4 and Ghost of Tsushima. Devs could not even predixt how awesome their game would look like in 3d with real life scale.

You are in VR??? 1/2 and 1/3 are similar but should be noticeably different from Legacy. If you move the camera with the first 2, there will be artifacts around objects, while Legacy will have motion jitter when things move past you, or you strafe. 1/3 and 1/2 generate extra frames to increase fluidity. Does fps change between 1/3 and Legacy as well as latency? What refresh is your headset set to? What headset and how is it connected?

Can you try disabling DLSS? You also are missing part of the log file; can you put the whole thing and post a link please? Did you make any changes to copying over a different ini file, other mods, changing DLSS preset etc?

Will be fixed in the next release.

Gamepad is recommended over mouse and keyboard for this reason. There is an undock box you can check in the overlay tab of the Real overlay to drag it around. You can hold x or square on gamepad and use bumper buttons to navigate tabs. Dpad to navigate currently selected tab.

Kingdom come deliverance 2 first I hope

What platform do you have the game on? Can you put a copy of your RealVR64.log file on pastebin and post a link to it here please?

Not in any real sense. You could possibly see better performance if you are using DLSS pretty heavily, but I actually don't know how much if any. At very high resolutions, you will mostly not get much more performance. Possibly a few frames in some titles. I made that switch already and I can't say I notice any big difference. I haven't gone back and forth and tested to see for sure. It could improve your fps lows which may mean less stuttering and smoother performance in some games where older CPUs may struggle but I haven't really tested that either. I do have frequent freezes in Elden Ring after switching to the 9800x3d, but I haven't figured out if it is CPU related or not. Haven't had any other noticeable issues after switching. So, no major benefit really. You are not missing out in any big way if you hold out for the next gen on either your GPU or CPU really :)

If the black bars are constant even when you aren't moving your head ad its the Indy game in particular, make sure you didn't let the system "re-choose" your resolution. It really has to be set to 1080p before you run the realvr.bat Also drag the slider for reduced shaking to the minimum as that causes the black edges to show for longer when they do show.

I think we've already received our Xmas present. Oh Valentine's Day is coming up! ❤❤❤

I imagine so. It took them quite a while to mod Crysis I believe. So wouldn't count on them putting anything out soon. If you mean, could Luke mod it, probably :) Again, wouldn't count on it anytime soon. I think Spidey 2 is far more likely. He has a back log of a few games he was going to do though. Far Cry 3, Watch Dogs 3, Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster. You just never know with this guy though :)

it worked for me. Just make sure to follow the tutorial step-by-step.

Legacy is easier on performance because the other two are generating extra frames. It will have motion jitter when things move sideways or past you, but it also isn't as sensitive to performance drops. So, if you have a solid 90fps most of the time with small frequent dips, it is not as big a deal as if you have dips with 1/2 or 1/3. 1/3 is easier to run than 1/2 because it caps at a lower fps than 1/2. While 1/2 is the hardest on performance because of the higher fps cap over 1/3 but also has the least amount of motion artifacts and trails of the AER V2 methods. So, if you just want Stereoscopic 3d and the highest performance you can push, Legacy is your answer. If you are really used to the motion jitter and it doesn't bother you, you can even go down to 70fps and it still feels fine to me. I have been using it for years though, so my brain is very used to it. 1/2 at 72fps if your headset can go to 72hz I think is a really good middle ground. I am assuming that by "quality" you mean visual fidelity mostly. That will be determined by resolution mostly. Fluidity can definitely be something that people consider a part of a quality experience though. There is no single answer for everyone here, just depends on what you like and what bothers you. Some people may find the motion jitter very bothersome.

It should ask if you want to play offline. Just do that :) I mean, it is a mod so there is always some inherit risk of using mods in online games, but I have played that and Elden Ring with this mod and didn't get banned. Just play offline. You can always put Steam in offline mode as well. Also, I don't think they can ban your Steam account, it would just be your account for DS online.

J seems sharper, no??? Is K actually better with motion? K looks like it has softer image quality which may just make imperfections less obvious :) That is not necessarily a bad thing of course. But then you have more blur further away.

Same thing. See my comments below. Looks like texture traces overlapping each other.

Does it happen if you launch other games after Afop? If you restart your system is performance back up if you launch CP and don't launch Afop? If you put your system to sleep after launching Afop, does it then change performance back?

Where does the 110 inch screen come in??? Did you replace the actual Q3 headset with the 110 inch screen and you just have that strapped to your face??? (Insert confused face gif here) or (lady with tape measurer) 😁

That is the way it is unfortunately. It is because they implemented the camera differently for aiming, I believe. I just used my head to aim as much as possible and used the stick less. Like, if I need to reposition, I will just let go of the trigger rotate and then aim again and use my head to fine tune.

In the Real overlay under runtime, does the button say stop VR or start VR? You are using Oculus runtime, right? Have the Meta PC app installed on your system? You don't need it running, just installed. You have the in-game display/video setting set according to the release post? Someone is working on a Starfield mod :) You can find info on it in the Flat2VR discord on one of the forum channels. Not sure how progress is going, haven't looked in a while. Praydog was working on one long long ago after it released but stopped, I guess. Not sure why, maybe he just got busy with UEVR. There was a link to it posted by someone a couple months ago or so. Not sure what state it was in or if it worked at all.

Can you put a copy of your RealVR64.log file on pastebin and post a link to it here please? You double checked that all the in-game settings are set correctly. No Frame Gen? What kind of GPU you got? What headset and how is it connected?

Do you have other mods installed that seem like they may conflict? Like mods that change your arms or arm Cyberware or something? What did you uninstall specifically?

Gamepad is recommended because some games will extend beyond your monitor. If you only have a mouse, you could decrease the game resolution really low to try and shrink the window enough to reach the overlay. In the overlay tab of the REAL overlay, there is an undock box you can check to undock the overlay and drag it around. If you have a gamepad, you can hold x or square and use the bumper buttons to move tabs left or right.

What headset are you using and how is it connected? You followed the video and changed all the important settings while running the game flat before installing the mod?

What do you mean? I think it works better in Hogwarts. Cyberpunk seems like it only has the same issue it had before in motion. I haven't played CP for any real length of time though after the update.

Just don't use frame gen! Actually, I am curious what happens if you try, so you could and let me know :) but it will most likely not work and just cause issues. I'm going to paste what I just wrote to someone else about settings :) As far as game settings, that is going to be subjective. Some people prefer higher settings on shadows, AO etc to make the game look overall nicer, some people prefer higher resolution and clarity. Just depends. I recommend starting at low settings and turning off screen space reflections. Then see how high you can push resolution. After that, you can decide if you want to step the res back and dial up some of the settings. I will usually find a good, optimized settings video and use that as guide for best visuals and performance. Going high or ultra on everything is often unnecessary and can hit performance while not actually improving visuals. Sometimes there are settings that just don't look good in VR, like Ray Tracing and for CP, screen space reflections. They are really grainy unless you have them way up which is really hard on performance. Again, it can get really subjective. For optimized settings videos, I like BenchmarKing. Digital Foundry is also really good, but their videos are longer and more in depth. BenchmarKing is more to the point usually. What was your previous card?

Mostly yes. It might be slightly inprecise, but good enough.

Because you are asking a lot more out of that 1060! Running a AAA flat game in VR is far more graphically intensive than a native VR title like Alyx that is incredibly well optimized and designed specifically for VR. The easiest way to compare this would be to see what your performance is like flat on the 1060. Then assume you are going to have to double that because you are now rendering for each eye instead of just once. That is not entirely how it works because the mod uses AER but it can't work miracles. It will also increase VRAM usage just running it in VR. So low settings are going to be the way you have to run. Make use of DLSS as much as you can. Honestly, you are just not going to have a great experience with that kind of hardware unless you have very low expectations. There is also Mono rendering mode if you want to give it a shot. It does not have Stereoscopic 3d so is easier on performance and still more immersive than playing on a monitor IMO. I wish I had better advice but a 1060 is just not going to give you a decent experience on anything newer. Dark Souls Remastered may be a bit of a different story. I can ask Luke for a refund for you if you want.

That is really nice! I don't think he knows about this, I sure didn't. Thank you for pointing it out. I'll email it to him, so he sees it for sure :)

Yeah, I used the Nvidia APP to change the preset in Indy and it made the game look sharper but the shimmers came back.

After a crash, can you put a copy of your RealVR64.log file on pastebin and post a link to it here?

Of course :) Ya never know but you can always just roll back if you suddenly have issues you didn't have after installing it. I was using the beta version and didn't have any issues when testing 4 games. Hopefully the new driver helps with DLSS 4 performance. I definitely recommend trying DLSS 4 in your games over 3 if you use it. I'm installing now and will try out some games. Let you know if I have any issues.

I'll check it out. What headset? How is it connected if not DisplayPort? What specific UI are you talking about? Menu, Hud, Map?

Value for VR doesn't seem worth it. Pretty happy with performance overall with a 4090. Really hoping people reject this launch at the high end. Not much performance gain plus the size (most people will end up having to go AIB model) and power draw. Not worth it for me. I think waiting for next gen which will hopefully be smaller and more efficient is a good idea. Unless you are on older hardware already. The 5080 is just straight Nvidia greed.

For Indy? Can you put a copy of your RealVR64.log file on pastebin and post a link to it here please?

I don't think there is such a thing as an intermediate variant :) Make sure you are not using a lot of sharpening as that will really bring out a lot of imperfections of both the game up close and DLSSS. There is a built-in sharpener called deblur in the REAL overlay main tab. It defaults to max, so if you are using that plus DLSS sharpening and anything else it can be way too much.

You have all the video settings set correctly? Can you put a copy of your RealVR64.log file on pastebin and post a link to it here please? Any other mods? Any overlays like Nvidia app, OpenXR toolkit Rivatuner running? I don't actually recommend any of the optimized settings, I just know they are there so wanted to give people instructions to use them without messing everything up :)

In game settings won't improve the visuals more than increasing the resolution will. What PPD are you playing at? Unfortunately, you won't be able to use DLSSS :( Definitely watch the optimized settings video linked in mine and adjust to get the highest resolution you can.

You are hitting adapt resolution after adjusting the PPD right? Make sure you have disabled all the blur options in the settings. Double check against the video and release post.

What game? If you are playing Cyberpunk, DLSS4 comes with a performance hit over DLSS 3. Also, we haven't gotten actual drivers for DLSS4 yet so things could improve when we get those. I think they are coming on the 30th.

There are some fixed ratios but they are limited and favor width to height. There is a 5:4 ratio BUT a 4:5 would really suit better for the Pimax Crystal... I see "PreferredARSel" in the ini file but this just has a single number that seems to ref the fixed ratios. Any way to change these ratios to something more usable would be fab.

It is already in CP2077. You can add it to others but I have only tried with FF7 Rebirth and AFOP. Outside of FF7R you will also need to set the preset to J inside Nvidia inspector I believe. FFR already sets it to J for some reason. From what I have read anyways.

Your headset is connected and actively running on your PC? What headset are you using and how is it connected if not DisplayPort?

I'll bring it up next time we chat :) It has a purpose though. To stop shaking when you are using a scope or binoculars or things of that nature.

It is a possibility since he did the first one and it is UE4 which he is familiar with and can be easier to mod. Haven't heard any news from him though. I know it had a lot of issues with UEVR because they did a lot of custom stuff. It is currently working fairly decently with UEVR now and a few people are working on improving it. Have to use synced sequential currently as Native has issues with the environment not showing and being black. I had a blast playing in VR yesterday and would love a LR version. Iconic childhood gaming experience that has always stayed with me. So cool to see them expand more on the characters even if the story is somewhat different this time. Seeing the world updated and in full 3d is absolutely amazing :) Very much hoping for more old RPG remakes.

Can 6dof be enabled when the crosshair is disabled?

Make sure you are puting the mod files in the correct game folder. Not the main game folder for Hogwarts. I install for Hogwarts in the install video if you haven't watched it yet.

I didn't get a lot of time to tinker with Indy. So basically, I just tried to throw people a bone since there is plenty of info out there already. DLSSS is probably going to be the biggest boost along with the fov optis. First try watching the optimized setting video and seeing what kind of gains you can get there.

I got the never been run error with the release version, then unblocked the zipped REAL folder, dragged over the files, replaced, ran config and that fixed it for me. Have you also already run the game flat and adjusted the settings needed for VR?

Sorry, that is where the confusion comes in. The pinned post version is not the latest version :( Luke is supposed to update the pinned post each time but it hasn't been updated for Indy yet. Make sure to download 16.2 from the Indy release post.

Make sure you set the video settings flat and then hit the adjust/accept video settings button so they change. Double check to make sure all the display type settings are correct.

You could try deleting the files from the game folder. The files you see in the REAL download folder along with any other files with REAL in the name. Then, run the game flat and try installing again. Make sure to unblock the zipped REAL folder. If you are on Game pass, try moving the game to your C drive.

You can drag and drop Cyberpunk mods as well. They are usually set in the correct folder structure for dropping into the main game folder. But yes, you do have to double check each one and take the time to learn where they should go. Modding can be a big hassle but it is also one of the great things about PC gaming :) If it wasn't for modders like Luke, I probably never would have upgraded my PC from the 2060 😂

Same. Would love some PPD, DLSS and graphics settings for a 4090 setup