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July 10, 2023

PatPod 37. Taha Can't See the Apple

In this episode, Taha, Sabrina, Melissa, AND JOE (!!) talk about aphantasia (the inability to create a mental image) and missing inner monologues, and the fact that Taha has both. 

Do you see the apple? Comment below!


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Igor Matkowski · October 17, 2024

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HypotheticallyGreg · December 4, 2023

I'm a new patreon and was going through the archives, got to this one and got SO EXCITED! I have aphantasia and LOVE listening to all of your questions and several times I've gone "Exactly! How do you all not understand!". For the apple, it's literally just a feeling of something like am I hungry, but not words, just the checking for the sensation of hunger. Thank you all!

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Lyndsey L. Werner · August 1, 2023

I was holding the Apple. It was wet. (Guess that’s what I picture for an Apple I am about to eat.) My hands were cold. So I don’t know where I fall. But I also never stop thinking. Never. I got kicked out of meditation as a kid.

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Juan · July 18, 2023

I feel closer to Taha, it is like Schrödinger's apple, like I assign no color or setting, if you ask me I can add it but it is not instinctive in the first place, I feel like I just imagine the most minimaslistic concept, like enough to be distinguished as an apple but that's it

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Dre · July 14, 2023

As soon as Melissa said, "I'd eat an apple,", my mouth started watering and I pictured the Honeycrisp apple in my refrigerator. But I want to finish folding laundry first before I eat the apple. So I kept folding laundry. Then Sabrina asked for us to comment, so I started typing. And now I need to rewind a couple minutes because I got distracted by typing and didn't really hear what you said for the past couple minutes. 🍎

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arden · July 14, 2023

this is absolutely hilarious to me cause I am Taha here with the inner monologue thing but I haven't always been (its wild what proper medication and good support systems can do)

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Tillysiar · July 14, 2023

First: I really enjoyed Joe beeing on the podcast. Second: This episode was mindblowing. I always wonder what thinking 'is'/'looks' for other people. Thrid: For me, my inner monologue is just like a whole second-layer-story above everything that happens around me. Like I am watching myself from third perspective and describing to an unknown audience what 'me' is thinking at that moment. That means I am *really* slow and selective because in order to process a situation I need to put it into real sentences which I then 'read' out loud to myself. To me, the experience/process of thinking feels like writing a play and then seeing the actors perfom that on stage.

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pris · July 12, 2023

ADDITIONAL QUESTION when you do something embarrassing and the feeling of like oops afterwards - do u think to yourself OOPSIES OR do u just feeeeeeel the embaressment???

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Ellie · July 11, 2023

this is wild bc i think almost entirely like taha except for the fact that i can visualize things - i can say things in my head but it’s Really hard to keep it going for more than a few words without verbalizing it

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Julia · July 11, 2023

I was so disappointed that this discussion has ended. Also, would Joe consider being a regular on the podcast? We want to hear him every episode.

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Candice · July 11, 2023

Red is not the apple I default to (I go for a granny smith), and I have...robust inner monologues.

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Katie Woolf · July 11, 2023

okay so i think I'm in between Sabrina and Taha. If i have an inner monologue its kind of like when you have a song stuck in your head but its just your own brain. Otherwise, my thoughts are kind of just vibes. Like I know what they are and theyre there but theyre not necessarily words or pictures. The same is true with the picturing physical things thing. Like if I imagine an apple its like how Joe described like an icon of an apple but if the opacity was turned down. Its also kind of like how I imagine spidey sense is. Like I know its there and I'm aware of it but I don't necessarily know how to explain it to you

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SpaceJay · July 10, 2023

I am having full conversations in my head, to myself. "I need yo get out of bed now" "wait, what time is it?" " alright me, what do I need to do next?" I am literally saying this in my head to myself as I type. I also have a habit of mouthing the words I just said outloud to a person without thinking it, which people have called me out for. Also also, I'm great at producing images in my head. If you ask me for directions, I have to go into my mind palace to pictures the landmarks near by. And I have anxiety, which means so many intrusive thoughts I have to combat, which is less fun.

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Naomi · July 10, 2023

Please tell me there's only 4 apples there.... 😳🤯

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Answer in Progress · July 10, 2023

Sorry about the late upload y'all! I am on a brief excursion out of the city and only got that good wifi recently. - Sabrina