Group Bias & Black Pigeon Speaks [live ver.]
Hello folks! I was going to redo the audio on this one, but enough people said that it was fine that I decided to just get it out there & move on, ha
Thanks as always!
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Sounds fine to me, as a currently retired music producer/sound designer/audio engineer. @Box of Pizza, try to see whether you activated “Loudness Equalization” in your audio settings if you are using Windows.
Well I just became a backer so I feel a bit awkward about making this kind of comment but here goes: this belief that humans inherently operate in an ingroup/outgroup mentality is really heavily disputed by anthropology. This depends, obviously, on how you define 'group' and this probably isn't particularly relevant to the video since you're talking about groups in a very broad way. But the very notion of an ingroup doesn't really make sense in, for example, exogamous societies (where marriage within the community is seen as incestuous or undesirable). I think what is interesting about the study that you refer to is that the subjects were told they were part of a group and then started acting like it, ie, they conformed to expectations. Societal subdivisions happen continuously, but they are fluid and transitory, an ingroup mentality would require a person to choose any one of a vast number of possible categories and elevate it to being supreme or determinative. While this obviously does happen, as your wonderful video so clearly shows, it's by no means a human universal. Also the audio was absolutely fine as far as I could tell.
Hi. Curious what anthro links/studies you can recommend? I mainly do psych and philosophy but only because of the department divisions.
The audio was decent, but a bit soft, I had to turn up my system volume a bit. Even with the youtube player audio maxed out, it was a bit too quiet for me.
I'm not an expert here and I don't want to tell you how to do your job of course, but I thought it might be an interesting thing in your argument to not only talk about how humans will do ingroup/outgroup stuff no matter what, but also how, in cases of racism and segregation, this is actively exploited for political gain - especially seeing as that seems to be the entire point of BPS video. While obviousoy you do touch on it and it seems to be underlying the video, I thought it might be a good idea to make it clearer/more obvious/just really go in on that point. But hey, I don't know what I'm talking about, really. Great work!
That “land of the blind” line made me burst out laughing.
Speaking as a descendent of Sicilian immigrants to America, I heard stories about how my great grandfather used to spit on the ground anytime anyone would mention Mussolini and the leftism stopped with my father, a self hating narcissistic white supremacist, and began again with me.
At the start you mention some "nitpicks" and it may be me not getting a joke, but I feel you make it clear when you joke about something. I just feel that little things like how long the study has been out for may seem minor, but they help to reinforce the idea that this is new stuff that everyone needs to know because "the media" are hiding it from the public. So even if you do frame it as a joke, maybe make it easier to tell? It also seems to me that how recent a study is gives it more creedence purely because even people on the right think that science = stuff getting better => new science is even more betterer than old science.
The audio sounds fine to me, and Jen did a great job on the thumbnail! Give yourself a break Shaun!
This is useless feedback I guess but the audio sounds fine to me! His final point (that Latino populations may vote republican in the future) is pretty well known. As a group they're fairly religious and not crazy about governments, the Republicans actually could have had their vote long ago if they hadn't given in to the loony racial purity wing.
The audio sounded fine to me too. Good video :)
Another great video. Might want to mention redlining, which is why so many US cities are so racially segregated in the first place.
It sounds good to me, but I don't have an ear for minor audio issues.
Since it appears that the names referenced in the credits are sorted by first name, I have noticed that my name has not appeared. Its no big deal though. Just to confirm, I am currently only supporting at $1.00/ video, is it the $5.00 and higher that gets referenced in credits? In either case, great video as always and I look forward to the next one
There's an excellent two-part episode of This American Life about a town in Alabama that collectively freaked out over Hispanic immigration, raised hell, but then pretty rapidly changed course. Worth a listen: <p><a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/632/our-town-part-one" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.thisamericanlife.org/632/our-town-part-one</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/633/our-town-part-two" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.thisamericanlife.org/633/our-town-part-two</a></p>
Just want you to know that I whispered a theatrical "no......." to myself during your brief pause for gasps so nice job on the timing there
I didn't notice any audio problems either. This was really good and I learned all sorts of new things! All through the video I was thinking how grateful I was that BPS's bad faith landed on such an interesting source material, and that you chose it for this video. Anyways I'm super willing to share it with everyone to help you catch up to Hbomb! Although my french friends and family see a video in english and say "ugh, why isn't it subtitled?" which, maybe I could help you put some subtitles on some vids if that would be helpful
Really great stuff. I reckon you should just post this as is and take some time back for yourself. Audio is fine. You deserve a break! When BPS mentioned Huntington I was hoping you'd discuss him a bit, but really that would be too much of a tangent. If you ever do get round to it, I think the "mainstream", respected intellectuals who become far-right fan favourites, like Huntington and Putnam for example, would make great material for a video.
Great vid! I didn't actually notice any problems with the audio, it sounded just fine.
I very much enjoyed this one, thanks Shaun. That is a great thumbnail as well. I'll go and follow you over on twitch now.
Great video as always Shaun. One comment: the line at 11:50 calling YouTube "the land of the blind" made me wonder if that use of metaphorical blindness could offend, so maybe it should be changed- but see what others think because I don't really know anything
That stuck out to me as well. Probably could find a non-ableist metaphor, Shaun.
what about shaun_bateau
good video man, looking in the credits though there seems to be an oliver moran but not oliver moron? idk if its a mistake or something but i assume the moron became moran. is it fixable? love you heaps, oliver x
re: BPS's claim about assimilation into "anglo-protestant values" -- what the fuck does he think irish and italian immigrants were? he had to step carefully around the fact that hispanic values are western values, are christian values, are largely conservative values... more proof he knows he's lying
Catholics. BPS is taking his cue from Huntington, who sees American culture as Anglo-Protestant, and contrasts that with Catholicism, i.e., Irish, Italian, Polish, Mexican, etc.
I'm half mexican & half iranian and I've assimilated all kinds of nonsense. I've got opinions on Batman goddammit!
I don’t know if ‘Schrödinger’s immigrant’ is a good joke to add there or not but if it is, you can steal it
I didn't watch the BPS video, but based on your description, I assumed he was just suggesting that there's some element of hypocrisy among progressives. I'll have to suck it up and watch his video, as much as I don't want to. Thanks for this video. As someone who grew up in rural Southern Ohio, settled in a Chicago suburb, and is now living in Berkeley, it rings true.
