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December 2, 2017

aa Here's a poll:

I've had a few people on curiouscat asking me for what would amount to a follow-up to the frogmen video, where I talk about my own experiences with politics online, the things I used to believe/how I grew out of them, learning about feminism & social justice & all that. I think this is because i briefly mentioned being someone who could easily have fallen into the alt-right trap in that video.

This would be more of a personal video talking about myself & my experiences. I'm hesitant to put this out through patreon unannounced, since it'd be a kinda different approach from what I usually do. But i'm also hesitant to spend the time making it if it's something people don't wanna see! So here I am, asking your advice

Thanks folks

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Oxnard Mantalvo · December 14, 2017

I wouldn't mind hearing about your experiences. Nothing wrong with testing the waters and seeing how your audience responds. If it doesn't work out, then you learn from it. If it's a good idea, then you've got a new avenue for future videos, as well.

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Constantin · December 5, 2017

I really feel that is a video i'd need right now. But only do what you're comfortable with.

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Alex G · December 4, 2017

Depending on how comfortable you are putting personal info out there or putting in the extra time for a video, I'd personally be fine with a Patron-only and/or written version of this. Although of course a video would be a bit more engaging and could serve as useful reference for any future videos on this topic so you don't have to repeat yourself.

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Zelma Zelma · December 3, 2017

It sounds like hearing about your journey could really help people. It’s important to remind everyone - even us - that no one was born with ideological purity. We all had some busted ideas at some point.

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Ash Rose · December 3, 2017

I would love to see that video, so it voted for it, but i'm not gonna tell you to go out of your comfort zone if you don't want to or produce something you don't think fits the channel as a whole.

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Nichtschwert · December 3, 2017

This is gonna be a close one...

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Occam's Blazer · December 3, 2017

Honestly, Shaun, I'm probably going to love anything you create, so just do whatever strikes your fancy!

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◉dawn☀ · December 3, 2017

Do it do it do it

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Emma · December 3, 2017

Seriously that sounds absolutely fascinating. I cant think of a better video for someone of your composure to make.

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John Vail · December 3, 2017

That sounds really compelling. Go for it Shaun!

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Gabriel Burgess · December 3, 2017

Do your thing, man.

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Alex Hsu · December 3, 2017

Consider that the thing that we may need tbe most, and lack, is empathy. This topic may well help some of us gain a perspective for the alt-right.

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Treya Kobold · December 3, 2017

Sounds fantastico

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Peter Coffin · December 3, 2017

Yes, please do.

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Cowrara · December 2, 2017

FotFM is up there one of my favorite of your videos so would love to see this one. I think that would be a good way to sort of see how you can get from point A angry 4channer to point B person who understands how the world is shaped by propaganda

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Catherine Holloway · December 2, 2017

I'm already a fan of your work, so of course I want to know more about your opinions and experiences.

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Filipa de Araújo · December 2, 2017

I think it would be a really engaging video :). Voted!

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Jens Nielsen · December 2, 2017

You should do it. Like you said in the first Frogmen video, people are growing disillusioned by Trump and the alt-right and may be looking for ways out. It's very useful to have stories about how some SJWs were close to their places of importance without coming to the same conclussions.

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Stef Korporaal · December 2, 2017

I'd like to see it and I think most people who like you enough to give you money probably would, but that might not reflect your entire audience.

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Dark Statistic · December 2, 2017

Not only interesting, but timely (I think). There's a fair bit of discussion about how best to engage alt-rightish people (and indeed, if it's worth engaging them at all). Personally, I have to believe there's a way to reach a lot of these people, and if not "convert" them, at least engender enough understanding that they're not overtly antagonistic. (Yeah, there's another argument there about how that's not good enough, etc. but personally, I see any progress as a positive sign). So... yeah. I think this would be both illuminating and worthwhile.

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Yawnie · December 2, 2017

There are so many trappings that an otherwise good, decent human being can fall into and start spewing hateful stuff and it would be good to see how that situation can happen. This video could be a good way to "debunk" mistakes that are easy to make when first coming into contact with social justice. I have a lot of opinions I'd like to formulate about this subject but don't have the means to, and hopefully you'll touch on some of them unknowingly. Really looking forward to this video :)

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Alex Hsu · December 2, 2017

Are you kidding? That sounds amazing. We don’t want an echo chamber; if someone as intellectual and insightful can be susceptible to becoming an alt right, then don’t we all share the same risk?

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Geddiz · December 2, 2017

I think it'd be a useful video that'd help with the difficult process of dragging people out of some troublesome beliefs.

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Daniel Fitterman · December 2, 2017

I think it'd be cool. I've had the same experience, and it might be good for some people on the fence to see as well.

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Temascos · December 2, 2017

Its certainly going to be interesting coming from you but generally trying to establish how people avoid falling into the trap of the Far Right or getting out of the movement is a great story. It's like how former Neo-Nazis try to help others recover from it, sorta. Anyway, make it dude. You have my blessing (Waves hands in a pope-y way)

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Damean Murphy-Short · December 2, 2017

Instead of a follow up to the frog men video, can we have a follow up to the frog *riddle* video? I need to know!

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casersatz · December 2, 2017

I think it's an interesting idea. You might get a bit more mileage out of it if you are able to extrapolate your background into the general mess we're all in. What right-wing "Rational Skeptic" rhetoric and my own personal cynicism have in common is the view that people are naturally drawn to reactionary views. Stories about men heading in the other direction would be such a relief.

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AJ McKenna · December 2, 2017

It sounds neat, but only do it if it feels comfortable to do so.