December 18, 2019

I read the terrible Episode IX pitch where Rey is a robot

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Neil Dutton · November 21, 2025

Post credit scene: The neutral Almurian council chambers, filled with always masked Almurians. First one, then all, remove their masks revealing...Snokes! The age of neutrality begins!!

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Andrzej Kapolka · August 18, 2020

Not bad, I guess.

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Bethany Gemmell · December 27, 2019

35 eerie videos taken before disaster

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Toreap · December 26, 2019

Spoilers-ish: I laughed so much during the movie because so many things ended up being similar to this that I just couldn't handle it. Most of all the clone vats as well as the stabbing "JUST LIKE HE DID TO HIS FATHER", it was too ridiculous to take seriously anymore

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denizay dönder · December 24, 2019

turns out he was pretty close in some aspects

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Alive_in_tucson · December 23, 2019

I wish Colin Trevorrow had made episode 9. That’s how much I was disappointed by the movie. But, I’m excited to see what’s next (and hopefully it’s by Rian Johnson).

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Emvee · December 27, 2019

Actually I wonder whether the fetch quests were a remnant of the Trevorrow script, Book of Henry (get the lady to follow a series of directions) style.

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four or five owls · December 22, 2019

take me back to three days ago when rise of skywalker’s story was still up for speculation

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Steve Ray · December 22, 2019

Schrodinger's Flaming Bag

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billythedoor · December 22, 2019

after the first few minutes of the movie i was DESPERATELY hoping rey and ben would team up against a bunch of snoke clones

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Adam Clark · December 22, 2019

I watched this a few hours before seeing the movie. Within the first 5 minutes, when it planned over the vat, I had a visceral fear reaction and flashback to this.

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AIumni23 · December 20, 2019

This is just one big L

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F W Pancakes · December 20, 2019

given what we now know this video seems like a sad case of 'what might have been'

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Steve Ray · December 21, 2019

Did you post this from your phone from inside the theatre?

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Laura Elizabeth · December 20, 2019

Let's just say, after watching this vid and then seeing the movie, there's one shot in particular that made me gasp aloud. XD

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Matthew Clark · December 19, 2019

I feel like an idiot baby with how hard the droid plush stuff makes me laugh.

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Matt Anderson · December 19, 2019

Honestly he wasn’t that far off in retrospect 😪

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Emvee · December 19, 2019

The thing with ADF is that he’s keyed in to what George Lucas likes, so what stands out to me is how easy this would be to bring in under budget, which billionaire George is still super into for some reason. Our key elements are: humanoid planet we already have matte paintings for, one type of alien, space battles you could make by recycling animation from previous movies, and a gymnasium covered in green-screen tarp for the ‘reception room’. One thing to keep in mind with the original movie novelizations and comic books is that pre-VHS, this was literally the only way you could ‘rewatch’ a movie you had seen in theatres. So some credit to ADF for being part of that. When I last re-read it, I thought the novelization of A New Hope was quite faithful and fun. My one serious note would be that regardless of real life events, it would make sense for Leia to shuffle off this mortal coil since the sequels seem to be killing off one member of the original trio per movie and this could be treated as key to Kylo’s redemption (as opposed to the dead parent spurring evil/vengeance trope). Anyway, love the spoiler-free Star Wars content as I’m trying to avoid opening weekend crowds *and* episode IX plot/imagery leaks.

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Ken Hall · December 19, 2019

I read (and re-read) a lot of Alan Dean Foster when I was a kid, and, well... not surprised that this treatment wasn't good. He's a grade A hack writer with over 100 published novels, and from what I understand has basically never said no to a paycheque. Since I have the excuse to share/vent: Midworld – ADF has done a lot of movie novelizations over the years, including Aliens. Apparently James Cameron despises him, which makes the obvious similarities between his novel and Cameron's later Avatar movie especially curious... natives bonding empathically with flora and fauna, the home tree, the forest neural net bolstered by dead human brains, the insensitive corporate interlopers... The book in this case, while not exactly amazing prose, is a much better story than the movie. He also likes to travel, which has led to some of his better original books. Into the Out Of is a horror/fantasy based on Masai creation myths. Maori is about the colonization of NZ, and both are not unsympathetic to the locals, iirc. On the other side, the Spellsinger books are absolutely AWFUL, even by YA standards. They have some cute ideas (such as employing anthropomorphic skunks as riot cops), but they're BAD. Looking back at publication dates, it's probably telling that he managed to publish three of them in the same year. Also the Icerigger trilogy, which very seriously presents a humanoid alien race adapted to an ice planet. They use their elongated claws as ice skates, and travel long distances by tacking into the wind with their webbed bat wings. Somehow that was three books. However, by FAR the greatest contribution(/troll?) of ADF has to be the prediction that humans will eventually found a great space commonwealth with giant alien cockroaches at their side. Apparently they're the species that humans found the most in common with.

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Steve Ray · December 19, 2019

Alan Dean Foster also wrote or co-wrote the screenplays for Alien and Total Recall.

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Neil Dutton · December 19, 2019

It just occurred to me that this version of Kylo would apparently be super upset to learn about some of Vaders 'prosthetics'.

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Branwell · December 18, 2019

Alan Dean Foster is a porg exclusionist (he excludes porgs) >:(

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Ethan Melton · December 18, 2019

"Frustration ensues", indeed.

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Steve H · December 18, 2019

Yes, soon it will be Star Wars. The man who wrote the novelization of the original Star Wars movie ships Rey & C-3PO? That's.... that's something alright. I see the Knights of Ren decided once again to stay at home and play video games. It got them through "Episode 9" alive, so maybe they're on to something.

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Tiamat4 · December 18, 2019

This is great, I wish there were more IX treatments for you to review.

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Dee Crosier · December 18, 2019

I’ve just upgraded to a big fancy monitor and was going to test it out with a Blu-ray, but then this video popped up so I got to see your glorious droid puppetry in Full HD instead! Totally worth it. :)

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Emvee · December 19, 2019

I like how Jenny’s pretending she wouldn’t be super into a five-minute scene of cute robot dialogue.

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Laura Martin · December 18, 2019

Now I want a shirt saying “There make be Snokes”

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Oskar Acosta · December 18, 2019

Is that a winx club Bloom doll on the background....? are you my hero now?

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Jenny Nicholson · December 19, 2019

Bloomix power

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Stephanie Fink · December 18, 2019

This is especially delightful since I tried just a few days ago to listen to the Alan Dean Foster novelization of The Force Awakens but couldn't because it was so awful.

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Stephanie Hohn · December 18, 2019

I would watch countless hours of you simulating beep-beep dialogue using your robot plushies. A+

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Sordahon · December 18, 2019

Fun fact: Alan Dean Foster wrote the very first Expanded Universe novel, Splinter of the Mind’s Eye

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Emvee · December 19, 2019

There’s a Caravan of Garbage episode where they go over the goofy plot of that one. It was based on the notion that A New Hope was going to be a flop, a sequel would have to be low budget, and Harrison Ford wouldn’t want to return for a second movie!

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Shaun Cheah · December 18, 2019

Gosh this was a fun video. Loved the beep-boops, they're at 6:05, 39:56, and 53:28 if anyone actually does wanna stitch together five uninterrupted minutes. I was watching the new movie when this video was released and honestly if I had known I would've 100% preferred for the order to be switched. My "There moke be Snokes" comment was too late to even accumulate a single like. Makes me glad for this community, though, because it got four hearts in the Patreon preview comments. It's a small thing but it means a lot to me. Y'all are great.

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Lawrence Whiteside · December 18, 2019

So happy re: color balance! Merry Christmas Jenny and all!

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Matt Reynolds · December 18, 2019

So random thoughts on this, Snoke is Kenny from south Park, the joker but specifically the comic book or I guess the Jack nicholson joker or both joker and Kenny. R2 has been an alcoholic through out the entire saga... Does that mean all the noises he makes are actually because he's just drunk? If there's a good and bad afterlife in the star wars universe is uncle owen being tortured in the bad place? How many dark jedi or whatever has Obi-Wan killed now if this was cannon. An I the only one who wants to see a wacky 80s comedy of just snokes sharing a house l, trying to hold down work and get along.

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Robbi Graves · December 18, 2019

Wait a minute: before Episode One Obi-Wan was just a Padawan learner, so why is he offing force-sensitive bullies on his own? And Obi-Wan isn't in the Skywalker family, so why would that make Snope hate the Skywalkers? This treatment is worse than the actual prequels.

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Crystal Robinson · December 18, 2019

This takes me back to the days of reading early EU novels.

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Luis · December 18, 2019

Oh perfect timing I'm literally heading out the door to the gym I'll watch it there

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Luis · December 18, 2019

omg Too Many Snokes they almost kicked me out of the gym for laughing too hard!!

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Josh Marjonen · December 18, 2019

Thanks jenny!! Ur one in a trillion!