Joker

The reason that they were so on the nose about the behavior of the therapist is because an autistic person such as Arthur or myself needed to hear it to realize it was true. And the reason his life got so comically chaotic with the meanness of people amplifying is because Arthur was in a Crucible but he he is most likely a man who doesn't even know the meaning of the word. The moral of the story and why Batman wasn't in it is because WE, IE, the Audience? ARE BATMAN. We have to stop the Joker in us all.

"Hmm. Nice trailer." That's how I feel about Cloverfield Lane. It's a *good* movie but it's a *phenomenal* trailer. I've watched the movie twice but I've watched the trailer an infinite number of times twice.

Funny how my first Jenny Nicholson experience was the meme from when those weirdos made 12 hour response to this video.

"Not gonna make friends with this one," this aged like fine wine lmao.

iirc in one of the Batman comics the going out of business sign was actually an heirloom belonging to a family of unsuccessful business owners. The grandfather's yogurt shop closed down and he passed the sign off to his son and after his music store shut down the sign was to be passed down to another family member who was opening a pet shop or maybe I made that up I dunno.

I like people to enjoy things, but I got to admit, it feels good when tippy find someone you support on patreon hates the same popular thing as you. And this is the second tone utter happens with Jenny (Rogue One was the first).

So what I'm getting is Jenny won't watch me do comedy at an open mic night.

joker i hardly knew ya

I want to make inferences about what movies Jenny has seen but I don't have enough data points.

Yeah I hate when unreliable narrator is used as an excuse for nonsense story. Great video though :D

The Clown Unions are VERY strong in Gotham. That’s why they had to hire out from a Clown Talent Agency.

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YES! I am so thrilled you did a breakdown of this movie. The boyfriend really wanted to see it and enjoyed it as a slow character study and I was just like ...no. I am so fucking bored and also this movie is so far up it's own butt and missing the marks that would make it a good movie. WITH YOU COMPLETELY on the most interesting and intense things being in the beginning with the lamented card and his first stand-up routine etc. The theater we were in did have two guys sitting next to us that also yelled out "YES!" in an extremely triumphant tone when the host was shot that made both the boyfriend and I immediately and unbelievably uncomfortable (even with him enjoying the film as a Joker origin story) so that clip you played of the guy cheering is just like. UGH. WHY.

This video was great! Now I feel like I don't need to go see it. As an aside, though, I'd like to comment on your points about the Chaplin parallel (I actually wrote a paper on this once lol). I think the parallel is probably fairly poignant (maybe moreso than this movie deserves) for two reasons: 1) Charlie Chaplin's tramp character is interesting in that the storlyines from each movie or short don't carry over, and he's always back at square one: a clown down on his luck. It's kind of this sick cycle of putting this character in really sad, messed up scenarios. Although the films have a "happy ending," generally the main message of Chaplin's tramp films (and most of Chaplin's work, tbh) is that life sucks and sometimes it can be kind of funny, but mostly it just sucks. This leads me into point 2: 2) Charlie Chaplin's main dramatic *and* comedic tool is bathos. Bathos is kind of like pathos, except it treads into the absurd. That is, Chaplin's tramp character is so pathetic it's ridiculous. Of course, Chaplin is great at physical comedy, but the main comic beats come from the tramp having terrible things happen to him to the point where it's so ridiculous you laugh (if you're into that kind of comedy, that is). I think if we look at those two points, the Chaplin film and Chaplin's tramp serve as a good (again, if undeserved) parallel for the main character in Joker. I haven't seen Joker (and probably won't), so I might be off, but it seems like the main character just has a bunch of ridiculously awful stuff happen to him to the point where he just embraces it. I think that's pretty similar to Chaplin's tramp character, except that the tramp seems more resigned than accepting. If anything, it seems that Joker really relies on the same tool of bathos that Chaplin liked to use. It seems like the thing that separates the two characters is Chaplin's excellent use of physical comedy. For a good contrast, check out Buster Keaton, who is kind of the hapless Batman to Chaplin's Joker. Keaton's main character (who didn't have as distinct of a look as Chaplin's tramp, but was a consistent character) is always getting himself into absurd and unfortunate situations, but he always perserveres. Keaton's movies are generally very uplifting, and the comedy comes from how Keaton's character ends up in those situations and extricates himself from them successfully. Normally I wouldn't go on a tangent like this, but you seem interested in the Chaplin parallel so I thought I'd give my $0.02. Love your vids btw!!

I haven't seen this movie but WATCH ME JUDGE IT ANYWAY: Thomas Wayne being in this movie as a mean 1%-er is so trite. First, who cares about Thomas Wayne? His narrative purpose is to be Bruce's loving father and that's it. This is like if Disney made a Bambi prequel about how Bambi's mom was actually really mean to the other deer in her younger years. Second, Bruce's parents are generally portrayed in comics as philanthropists. I'm not bringing this up because I stan the Waynes, I'm bringing it up because it would be much more interesting to have Thomas Wayne in this as a well-meaning rich guy who was both generous and nice, but privileged (and maybe conflicted about it?), rather than him just being mean. But ultimately I don't think Thomas Wayne should have been in this at all and they just put him in for a lame twist that has all the subtlety of middle schoolers going, "What if Barney the dinosaur was a REAL dinosaur and ATE people!"

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I’m a big “Batman” fan, but I prefer the cartoon-y/goth-y versions, and had no interest in seeing the movie because it looked so grim and (potentially) pretentious… but now I’m glad it exists, because this was such a funny and interesting takedown! As an aspiring writer, I always appreciate your insight, and how hard you push for thematic/character consistency… it inspires me to try to be more rigorous with my own work... :)

I appreciate you posting this. I haven't gotten to see the movie yet but was also putting it off because I kept hearing a lot of the things you mentioned, but in less detail, and I like to know what I'm getting myself into before watching movies dealing with mental health. So thank you! Great vid as always.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!

Further proof that the movie studios should hire Jenny to consult on their films!

Rats, we're rats, we're the rats. We prey at night, we stalk at night, we're the rats

Joker sounds about as up its own ass as I expected, glad I decided to wait until it's streaming somewhere

I'm a Super Rat!! <3

Mate's just shown me a 4chan post referencing this 🙄 some of those people need to go outside.

6am CT so it must be 4am PT. Night Owl Jenny confirmed. Hope you get enough sleep over there, lady.

Well I can respect differing opinions and at least you acknowledge people will disagree. Personally I really liked the joker... Even if the press tour revealed that Todd Philips is way less intelligent then he thinks he is and it shows in the film. It's still the best comic book film since winter soldier and the best dc film since Christopher Nolan worked was directing batman... Not sure if that's an endorsement if everything else is just kinda fine though eh.

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