Conversational Foreplay (feat. Bluecentric Blue)
In this Patreon exclusive episode, emotional intelligence coach and podcaster Bluecentric Blue joins the show to address the cast’s commentary on the Megan Thee Stallion and Klay Thompson situation from her perspective. The room also discusses Blue’s time as a phone sex operator, the difference between therapists and coaches, the changing relationship dynamics between Black men and women, the controversy surrounding Emma Grede, Dr. Cheyenne Bryant’s credibility, and much more!
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Kevin Samuels didn't fail
Wtfk is she going on about 😂😭😭😭😭
Put her on the Pod
“I may lie on my own puss, but that doesn’t make me a liar!” 😒😒😒 Proceed as you will with that info…
Sasha please, smh she asked a question to a black woman or who she thinks we our , not to blue
80 min on Klay and Meg is wild
Typical big back bullshit and Ish is right
Will we ever get to the point in we are not black white Spanish straight gay trans , it just is what it is why label and prequalify things . A fact is a fact no matter if a white man is saying it or not .
Damn straight up victim mentality. I don't blame her it's what she was brainwashed with in these liberal institutions
As a woman, my last time getting my hair cut in a barbershop they were talkin about R Kelly and said they would’ve never let they kids go to his house cause they knew better 😭😭😭
Ish really thinks he’s the smartest person in the room
Ish likes to hear himself talk
9:50 Joe clocked their tea 🤣. Might have been meant as a joke but it's true.
Weird audio this ep.
Blue was amazing, I would’ve loved for them to expound on the GOP conversation. And to her saying her mother names her ‘Immanuel’ and the meaning, "God with us"
When i take my emotions out if the subject matter and just watch this as entertainment… ish is a very emo guy… i think he does hisself a disservice by not being able to take himself out the situation. I listen to crash dummies and they are very good at not making a point based off their experience but based off the facts in hand
Ish yelled the whole episode
lol so many people acting like she still ain’t a feminist, she saying she understands men at first to soften and get them on her sides then still bash
She made a lot of fair points, she also moved the goal post quite a few times when a counter point was introduced.
I've never heard of Bluecentric Blue but I made a fan out of me. I didnt agree with everything she said but I do like how she thinks.
Shorty made alot of since. Imma give Meg that Grace.
Ish has white guilt... that's why he thinks he's non bias
I just need to check back into therapy this shit is so depressing
Ladies remember..everything we do has to be about how men see it...
Eww..eww.. on the phone while she's directly speaking to you. Get some help...ewwwww...I came for blu..I hope there is an apology in this video...eww...
This is this woman's dedicated life work and they dont want to hear...like eyes closed...
Ish is actually misogynistic he older so.....but his distain is clear. He can't listen...its ironic he has 2 daughters
He needs the class
I’m sorry I gotta say this, but, “emotional intelligence “ is a myth. The people who say they are are usually super sensitive or mentally ill so they interpret every personal interaction as an attack. This woman autistic but she telling y’all how to manage YALL feelings. We out here looking for false leaders cuz we don’t want to listen to God. Let’s just keep it 💯
Jeeez Sasha. Lighting up the room with that glow
Yep, to next episode I go. ....
Ish is a child
Great episode
free tory 🥱
I got bored decided to watch this and it was straight 💩.
Blue made me a fan today
😂😂😂 this lady definitely sound crazy as hell.
Man the first 30 minutes I’m cool.
Ish put up a triple double this pod
She just talking, nothing to see here
Ish talked too much on this episode. He overtalked ppl
And half of these men have daughters but don’t defend or understand women smh
E needs to go
Bro, ISH so emotional. It’s ridiculous how unstable he is to even have any of these conversation Hella biased and unwilling to hear anyone’s side outside of him trying to get his points off lol this is comical.
Ish was not listening to her. She clearly said how you say something matters
Ish sighing is so unprofessional
Love this
Ish sounds nuts at 1:44 about the women and being credentialed and how that automatically makes a women talk down to their man because he makes less. How about that’s that women, lets not act like earning a degree and being credentialed are synonymous with having and attitude and not having emotional intelligence. The generalization hella dangerous especially for a black man to be saying it about a black women. The most credentialed group in America.
Agreed…im late af but yes they unfairly apply these traits when there are so many things that could have been applied to them based on what they have experienced..in example black men dating white women.. so much could be applied to him but thts just not true
The judges and police may be wrong for abuse but they aren’t abusing their wives on tv 👀
Ish really let the cape out when he hear about Dr.Bryant 😂😂😂😂
Blue ended up being a good guest
Ish ain’t letting nobody talk. Goodness. Hushhhhh
This was a great everybody navigated the conversations well 💪🏿
Who did Ish used to date that was famous?
The reason black women feel targeted is because they make it about them and internalize every issue thus not allowing them so empathize or support their counter parts the black man. Her simply saying “not more than us” was the prime example she just had to turn the spotlight back on women
Sometimes who is delivering the message is the only reason the message is ignored
This was a great conversation.
Yes Emanny 58:30 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾‼️
I thought I would disagree with Dr. Bryant , I agreed. Thought I’d agree with her… disagreeing lol funny how that works
Her comparisons are throwing me off comparing the reaction of George Floyd to how women felt with Meg is hella extreme
Ish needs to stop being so sassy and say what he’s thinking vs trading looks on the side with ice. Have the conversation , no one is censoring you .
11 months ago they talked so foul about Cheyenne lmao
Blue and Sasha are gorgeous
Thank you ☺️🫶🏽
Ish is so emotional…
Ish doesn’t understand nuance! He’s so emotional during a lot of the debates. There’s a certain cognitive dissonance he exhibits because he doesn’t listen to comprehend (put the pieces together), but to rebuttal in only black and white context. He can never see or acknowledge the grey areas in certain scenarios.
Loved this Pod with Blue but Sasha is just taking up space. Contribute or get up! Got Dammmn!
I tried it can't watch dis when ever u try to hold a woman accountable without being a woman hater smh
BEST POD EP OF THE YEAR.
Absolutely LOVE blue telusma 😍 her throwin those subtle shots at Mel was hilarious lmao
TRUTH WITHOUT COMPASSION IS CRUELTY
She needs to be a constant
I love watching this show for a reason.. I love hearing from men’s point of view. But often I see that some of them are so caught up in being right & making a point that we’re missing the whole meaning of the conversation. And then we get caught up in semantics of examples or split hairs about who said what.. meaningless chatter. Accountability starts with self which is hard for a lot of people to do.. and if you want to that whether that applies to you.. do you get defensive or calm when someone suggests accountability..
Ish a baddie 😭
😂😂😂
She comes off as an Alpha for sure
One of the best episodes in my opinion!! ❤️🔥 Thank you for adding this perspective Joe! 🙏🏾
There is no way in hell Ish was a prodigy of anything.
1:48:00 if a man ends up without a lady he is ALSO dissed by Black society at GAY, infertile, indecisive and unwanted—it’s not all woe is me Tracee Ellis Ross syndrome only for ladies. Yall are making so many pandering statements for women, it’s disgusting. Black women are not kicking ass in academics more than any other groups’ ladies are. Ladies go to college more than any men, men have other ways to make money that don’t require a college degree (e.g., tech, business owners). Yall are talking about jail bird hood dudes (worst of men) compare to college educated women (best of Black women). this is bullshlt pandering and false equivalent pandering. Blacks women are not making more than Black men, we have Department of Labor stats you know, stop throwing it BS to make Black women feel superior. You’re part of the problem, all of you, doing this and you just started off talking about how too many are doing this to Black women.
They never denounced the meme on the pod.... STOOOOOOP LYING
So she's already struggling and you want to come home and complain to her about what THEY doing to you so She can tell you what to do and solve your problem for you while she still struggling.... 🤦🏾♀️
Why don't you hold EACHOTHER ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!
Joe need to hire a new middle couch 😩🤣🤣
Joe's encapsulation is SPOT ON!!!!
Great conversation with an amazing guest. And she cooked Cheyenne Bryant.
An hour in, Ish please!!!
I learned something from this episode lol
Ish is smart to dumb people. Im happy yall are starting to see that aside from E being emo, he can stand in the paint with a variety of guests and not be a terrible twos toddler like Ish.
Sitting Sasha next to THIS woman was a huuuuge disservice!
ish is annoying sometimes
Ish mic hogging this episode
All that lady does is over generalize and stereotype men but then demands that women not be over generalized and stereotyped or held accountable. She just says word salad and black phlegminist intersectionality nonsense that leads to oppression olympics between sexes and it’s 100% the same as feeding into the gender wars. Women flock to her because she appears to be their strong sista and loud mouth personality, and I promise you most don’t even believe anything she claims she says defending men. They want gender wars mouthpieces same as the manosphere goofs.
She was amazing idc wat you biggas say
This was great!!! Joe doing this is a step in the right direction because the misogynist takes specifically towards Meg are so bad I think about canceling my membership any time she comes up.
ISH NEEDED A BLUNT THIS EPISODE ‼️‼️‼️‼️
Love this conversation… So what’s the point of change and rehabilitation if you’re stuck in the original space?
Ish looking for a Gotcha all episode damn
Love Blue.
Why is he so combative. Calm down you can’t have a conversation yelling.
When Ish know somebody personally… man the morals and values go out the window and he blinds them with Money… “& you can’t hate that a person is getting money.”
This was such a great episode from beginning to end! Looking forward to Blue’s return 💃🏿 until then I’m off to find and subscribe to her YouTube channel 💛
She speed talks when she replies to questions and doesn't answer. Only Ish called her out for it.
Bro talk …. Fuck I hate we too 🐱 to speak today … it’s away to be direct and address things and be respectful about it
Man fuck all that do y’all see Emannys tshirt
we deserved a cut to emanny when she said we've all been given grace LOOLL
This was a great pod
She’s a contradiction
She making it seem as if men are always gonna be flawed and woman are so accountable 😂😂😂😂
Facts I heard that same shit. Like women jus go to there partner and be like put me in my place baby thanks lol what planet is she from??
ISH STARTED GLITCHING ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great ep
Who gives af about this bs
HOMEWORK: every male should re-watch this episode and honestly see themselves
Ish aggravates me
The Newark coach irritating w/their eye signals and smirking. GROW UP and get out you’re emotions
Men in the comments saying they’re skipping the episode based off how Blu looks is crazy when Sasha (a more conventionally attractive woman) is sitting right next to her contributing absolute DIRT
Mark picked his spots 😂 pay attention
Please stop bringing Sasha on here
Blue is the best guest in a very long time. And by far the best female guest. Why is Sasha there??
I thought yall failed me this episode. No time stamp when this whale leaves 🤦🏽♂️ but she was there the whole time….easyyy skip ⏭️
Ish will say the same thing 5 times in a question and will ask if he can finish! Nigga we got it lol
Yo she’s new to me and let me say i love her and im going follow her and support her 🖤🖤🫡
Everyone making fun of ish raising his hand is hilarious!!!😂😂😂 Marc: bouncing w/ his hand up 🙋🏾♂️ Blue: his hand is raised !! 🫵🏽
Please for the love of God. Give Ish a vacation
Ish is right he can’t keep it real and be critical or it’s mansplaining and misogyny. Blu speaking from a woman’s standpoint she can say more to women. Most women even allow gay men to be critical of them just not straight. Everyone’s allowed to be critical of straight men though.
Ish a legend man… sash aint slick either🤣
Meg knew what the klay post would do she chose not to end it privately and quietly like it ended with pardi
Enjoyed this!
AMAZING EPISODE
This episode was 🔥🔥🔥
Blue is so needed especially in a space like this. Glad Joe had the humility (and marketing acumen) to feature her. And Ish really can see past his own nose.
i love how excited the guys get about love island LOL
This girl so well spoken and quick on her feet it almost mask the fact that she be saying a whole bunch of nothing.. almost.. im good
This did not need Sasha. "hEY iSh wHo wANtS tO gIVe mE THe tIP" as an intro. He wasn't even talking to you. Bring back B-Dot if you insist on forcing someone on us
Yal draggggggggggggggggging tf out this Meg convo sheesh
Ish is a PRIME EXAMPLE of what happens when you cannot execute conversational foreplay.🤣 And I’m almost certain that he views everyone else as the problem.
Blue acknowledges men’s inherent biases while seemingly ignoring her own biases as a Black woman, often using that perspective to deflect from the actual topic being discussed. Emannie’s approach comes across as pandering. He appears more focused on semantics and wordplay than on moving the conversation forward in a meaningful way. At the end of the day, a choice was made by Meg. Whether she intentionally weaponized her fan base or simply acted from a place of emotional immaturity, the outcome was still problematic. Instead of having an honest conversation about the consequences of those actions, the discussion gets redirected toward semantics and the familiar claim that “men will never understand.
Dang I saw a clip of hers on TikTok and this is the reason why I bought the Patreon if I would’ve known the conversation would have been spent once talking about me I would’ve never turned in this is such a long drawn out topic my God when she was speaking of Nikki Giovanni on TikTok, I didn’t knew we had something to actually talk about. Why was I wrong
I didn't expect it to be, but this is one of my favorite episodes.
Nahh, she got a problem. She's just not my kind of women.
Lmao, this lady got a fast rebuttal for everything, yes that frustrate anyone. She's a slave to it. Who the one with the real problem, just asking. If you got to defend a person like that
Off bat, I like Blue, but she is coming off the type that wants to make every turning topic or rebuttal a mental conversation. Anything a person says can be questioned back with intelligence. Most women don't like to apologize or admit fault. Instead it's the reason behind. No disrespect. Pov only matters when you trying to please another. In this situation, women. And giving reasons why men should respond soft to most things. At the end of the day is all a battle for who's more right than the next. But I'm keep listening
This was dope. I hope that Joe brings her back from time to time. How she demands to be heard amongst the fellas is what Mel lacked and even Mona.
It would be a fire episode if the brought Melissa Ford back with Blu to air out their differences
Alright this got exhausting
I love Blue
I am starting to hate to hear ish talk. He doesn't read the room well. But he adds something to the pod. So I get it
For Ish to always stand on morals and integrity it was interesting to see him go to bat for Dr.Bryant
She smoked this shit….
I rock with Ish. I also feel like he be stuck in getting out his point it may seem like he not hearing them trying to understand how his point matches the entire point. Emanny was spot on talking about the privilege of having an uncle with an AAU insider.
This woman is a SPINSTER
Big saaaaaash😛
😜🫶🏽
Why is she calling her an orphan
Uh, because she’s an orphan?? Tf?
The thing that Ish is missing (when talking about Emma Grede) is the power of proximity to whiteness. White mother, racially ambiguous, European beauty standard, white husband all compound to privileges that the average Black woman doesn’t have. And those privileges are powerful.
thank you for Emanny - iykyk. We need bro on the pod more to buffer the nonsense.
Why is Ish such a privilege Avenger? He’s is SCREAMING white-adjacent and a privilege protectionist, Lord! Damn Ish, all they’re saying is acknowledge your privilege and then move forward. That’s it.
Her body her choice but I never want to see Sasha wear makeup again. Stunning.
🥰🫶🏽
Byrd episodes will always get skipped foh
This episode and the comments makes me realize men and women will just never understand each other. I feel like the guys were being careful with blue cause she was says some bs
We need Blue at least once a month to keep oVo Ish in check. But seriously she was great and she did kinda make Ish sound stupid Super Dope Patreon ep!!!
Ish is the king of analogies that NEVER make sense
I can’t believe he’s defending white woman like this
Blue spent these whole pod making sure her niggaz know they hers and she want new ones
If she is on this taking up for Meg I'm not watching...and just judging how she looks she probably is so ima skip this one
Def a rare full skip
All she is doing is answering to respond she hearing her she isn't listening she has a rebuttal before they even finish talking
You guys keep describing ISH in your critiques of Blue, hilarious lol
Thank you ish for giving push back to the bs she was pushing. Ice also for honorable mentions
Blue is cold fr - hate that ish was so tight the whole episode. Coulda been a better conversation if he didn’t act so butthurt
Marc annoying as hell 🤬
What is wrong with ish he won't let anyone else talk and he's screaming what is the problem, just talk like regular people dude. It's not that serious
Ish not hearing shit this episode
This guy Ish, when is somebody gonna check him and call him out, his behavior today is atrocious
“What’s the intention of being honest? Are you using it as a sword or a bridge?” Damn yeah Ish abort this convo!!
I wish they would’ve asked her about latto and 21 savage relationship but it seems like everyone is scared to ask the question of is he married or not it’s like being scared to ask trump about the Epstein files like it’s G-14 classified
This was really a goody
While she may be right on a lot of this, she gives me the vibe of a woman that don’t know how to be wrong and acknowledge it lol
40:49 she is delusional…
Is it just me? Or every time she talks I hear food frying?
Ice gon always just agree with ish once ish start yelling for no reason.
Blue was the best guest yet . Ish come on man you letting your experiences guide your way of thinking. You wasn’t trying to hear nor listen to her at some points .
Ish a damn cry baby
Ish gone huff and puff and blow that mic down. Goodness gracious.
Ish is one of those people that listens to respond and not to understand lmao.
This is soo good! Loved this conversation.
She was dope. I'd watch her again.
Humility and honesty
Why is he yelling!
Love Emanny
Love Ice.
Ish we need to talk. I do not want to criticize but….
She is just talking about, basic humility.
Literally
I like her. I think she’s gorgeous. Ish is being weird. Everyone else is cool. 😎
Love, love, loved this episode.
WOW BLUE ATE (No Pun 🤭) DAT HOE TOPIC!! 🙌🙌👏👏👏👏👏 Fumbling baked into the process of growth. 💯
"People are afraid to change their mind in front of you."
Woooo…baby! Critical Thinking is a blade that needs to be sharpened. Blue is giving a master class if you can just listen.
Emanny did good!
Blue is brilliant. Emanny really has a lot more depth than people give him credit for. I appreciate Mark. Where did Joe go?
BRUH WTF!
Idk who bluecentric blue is but she can spar any fucking time. Salute to you Blue you killed this. Don’t agree with everything but she was dropping game. Ish held it down tho
She was a little annoying at times and just saying shit… But this was a great conversation 🫡 - so glad Mona wasn’t there… 🙄🤣
This was such a great conversation
I didn’t think I would like this episode , but I learn so much about how I should approach situations with women I date
Knew I wasn’t watching this bullshit when I saw a clip of her using the term Tory Lane apologist….. I know half the people listening hate men but we deserve a safe space as well
“Safe space” wtf??
Fire
fantastic episode
Ish just screaming and raising his cortisol all pod. Omg get him off
It’s something wrong with the males viewers of this pod yo. They in the comments still missing the point the shit is not about Meg it’s about how black men treat and talk about black women. Black women are not always right and should be held accountable but the way men try to do so is very misogynistic & downright nasty
That’s it!
What the fuck is that noise
She’s just name dropping left & right.
Wow. This hurt my head
Ish thinks his word is the end all, be all 🙄
Sound quality this is terrible
This is the dumbest conversation ever. She doesn’t even know Meg and Klay and speaking with so much conviction that it’s laughable. Salute to Ish, since he’s the only one that is speaking with logic.
Ish and logic? 😂
She was great
Ta three hour convo dragged out because nobody wants to bring the word accountability up. And this is why women are crazy
She’s definitely shooting Meg bail.
Parks wasn’t on the boards with this one 😂😂
Dope episode on communication 👏🏾 love Blue
She started a cult too 🙄😮💨 This girl has done everything 😂😂
what is that static in the back
Ish gotta stop saying I’m light skinned with green eyes … niggas be so sassy with the “I’m sexy”
I do love her energy
She’s great
Ish doesn’t know Blue so when she said his name at the 50:58 mark he don’t know she’s clairvoyant and could feel what he was thinking🤣🤣🤣 he tried to deflect but she called it. I want her to come back again.
Wait did she date every type of man ???
Meg is not a gatdamn orphan!
I’m glad I finally get to watch this because I LOVE BLUE. SHE IS DOPE AS HELL💙🔥
I honestly see why Ish stays quiet most times. Hes the type to not have conversations on topics hes passionate abt, but leans more along the lines of hes trying to convince you hes right. I used to be the same way🤷🏽♂️
Love this conversation, but hate how people paint such a negative image of the audience. Solely because of they don’t agree on a subjective topic.
Ish made this such a hard listen. But I want to get through it for Blue.
We gotta be honest, Ish don’t be saying SHIT. Lol. Like nothing at all
Why does Emanny keep jumping in when they are directly addressing or responding to what this woman says?
E SMOKED ISH this ep
Ish act like he a lil slow sometimes just listen my nigga please
Ish up there acting like a 50 yr old 5 yr old 😂😂
Im crine
They need a off camera convo.. ish can’t say what he really wanna say
Man this woman had some valid points but she was wrong or misplaced a lot. She just used a lot of words.
Im Emannys face the whole first 5mins lol
Wish i would’ve read the comments before i pressed play…
Blue killed this! I hope they bring her back to guest host. As a female who watches this podcast regularly and is a fan, I appreciate the nuance and sharpness she brought.
Ish acting like a bish!!
2:18:20 - "I'm OBJECTIVELY speaking" 😂😂😂 look at ice face.. man no you're not ish
Ish is right. They DO denounce a lot of bullshit some men do. Then the next pod they say and do the same shit they just denounced but in a different form.
WHO IS THIS BREATHING ON THE DAMN MIC! Omg I cant take it..
The GOP use black women as a tool against black men with housing food stamps in order which isn’t a problem, but it’s not acknowledged as such and it’s weaponized part of the plan and problem
It definitely be Ish breathing all loud on the mic 🤣
Sheesh ish is the ONLY person that can talk! He can cut everybody off and breathe hard AF while people are talking but God forbid someone has something to say he has a temper tantrum. It’s getting to be unbearable.
Ngl i wasn’t beat to hear shawty at first but when she started cooking she started COOKING! this was a 🔥 convo… few 💎 ‘s
Lord I subscribed to hear Blu and the discourse bc I’ve grown to really like the pod once I realized it had more depth but Ish will be the reason I unsubscribe! My God his attitude can be insufferable
Ish seems to be in a bad mood! 😒
And blue is right. They sound like some white people when they blame the victim.
These dudes are just jaded. HTF!?!?? A person gets cheated on: post about it and becomes the villain? Because they posted about something that occurred. Blue is wrong. This ain’t got shyt bout having a penis. These dudes all think the same. They flock together. I don’t see nothing wrong posting about something that happened. The consequences are the consequences. She ain’t cheat.
23:37 I’m not understanding Ish. I want to understand
Lemme let the women have this … cause talking fast doesn’t make it completely right .. she like the female Mark … speak quick and it sounds like it makes sense .. but slow it down and you can find the holes
So she’s smart and well spoken? Lol
This was my favorite episode of the year
Great guest. Great pod
I put this episode off for so long thinking that everybody was going to get on my nerves respectfully lol. I’m so so SO glad that I did. I truly enjoyed it. TRULY
Pleaseeee tell ish to a stop huffin & puffin in the microphoneeeee
3 hours of just rattling off therapy speak buzz words lmao
I gave this all the way till 1:56 and I was done! 🥱
17:30 I was like her. I hated no scrubs by TLC
16:16 why was Ish about blow a top?
Emanny pickmeing his ass off lately got damn. Really wanna get chose
Ish was on a energy drink that day. 😂 i love Blu tho. She is a masterful communicator. And yes she definitely put niggas in a spin cycle
What a great convo
Usually, I love Ish, but he was actually insufferable this episode OMG
I thought this was gonna be lame only because I thought she was a singer. Ended up being an EotY candidate for me. But I can't find her pode. Add her to your x-men JBP!!!
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾
I am genuinely interested to know why they are labeling Megan a "Liar".. besides saying she never slept with Tory, when has she lied. And this is a genuine question, because who in this life haven't lied about whom they've been with?
Ish RUINED this interview.
Emanny pandering like a mofucka 🤣🤣🤣
A lot of word salads from blue foh ish makes a point she wanna talk bout men this and men that but not answer the question 🤣🤣🤣 pack it up
Hour and a half straight of Meg the stallion lmao time for a producer
Blue is what the JBP thinks Mel and Mona are. She’s a star
Marc just keeps losing credibility the more he talks about Cheyenne Bryant.
Maan Produce one episode of “Ish vs chix” where he just debate a women Issa hit ✨
This mf 🔥 great convo
First conversation made me shut this shit off lmao… catch you on the next one.
I stg lmao
Great pod !!!
Rewatching episode 888 when Ish claims to have work in corporate finance for Subway but was oblivious to the Jerad scandal, proved to me he’s the same kind of liar as Cheyenne Bryant and no wonder he capes for her. Both are examples of the Dunning Krueger effect.
A whole lot of nothing
Somebody cooking bacon this episode or what ? Lol
Ish gotta learn to accept holes in his arguments and be willing to advance the conversation. That privilege segment was a bunch of him screaming the same thing in 5 different analogies and can’t accept feedback from everybody else. He spoke right over Blue’s point of her wanting her children to acknowledge the privilege and take the teeth out of it.
Ish mad as shit lol
Blue sayin she ain’t conventionally attractive is crazy. She is DEAD fire to me! 😩😂
Who was Ish talking about? Angie Martinez? Is that who he used to date?
She’s DEFINITELY a “Spin Doctor”… 🤣🤣
Ish act just like a baby when he’s proved wrong. Can’t look at her. Scrolling on the phone. Smh
Lmao Bruh WTF...
I never know what to expect from guests. I loved Blue. Ish need to learn how to hold good conversation. All that huffing, puffing and refusing to grow makes him look small. Emanny held it down.
Great show fr fr… Ish be insufferable sometimes. Loudest in the room and be least likely to listen to learn. He be listening to respond.
Lady just talked in circles most of the time instead of accountability, yes she had valid points at times but most of the time ish, ice & joe was right
Naw this was fire pod..I like this type of conversation..she needs to be back on the regular!
The way men are running away from the thought of foreplay allows me to understand them as lovers in relations and relationships.
ISH feet always shaking, that boy be furious 💀
Personal or not Ish. Discernment was not used. She wasn’t in a personal setting that was a professional setting.
I think Blue is great 💙✨
Ish sit up all day long and act like he has no emotional or character flaws when it comes to women lol
Ish is so out of pocket on this Emma topic. I don’t agree that ish should speak so loudly and strongly about the issues of the black woman. That’s not his culture or current situation or circumstances.
Ish be the first one that says I don’t wanna shout and argue and be THE FIRST one screaming 🤣 OHH and one thing ISH u wrong about Bronny his 4 pt average is due to the fact the kid had a heart attack, damn near died and that’s why he has that average SPEAK about ALL the facts and not just one that fits ya narrative argument king 😂
Great pod
I love me some Blue!!
I figured it out! The whole play! They want men to be like women instead of men being men and women being women. They could hear us say something as men but it rubbed them wrong so they tell us how to tailor it to make them feel better which is teaching men to be women instead of understanding men for men and men understanding women for women
Making a person feel safe before having a deep convo isn’t gender specific…coming out the gate all rah rah isn’t going to land whether they are a man or woman. Something I’m personally working on. I can come off hot headed with my husband. But I recognize me approaching a convo that way isn’t helpful at all. He’s gonna tune me right tf out lol it’s all about the approach.
Another full of sht fast talker like Chyanne lol
Ish is one of the best podders, when he pods. Not when he gets mad and sits on his phone mumbling and groaning
Salute to Joe! This is his genius. Lady read y'all for filth, but in a way that you knew men would receive the necessary message the way you did. & Protect her. I'm a fan now.
The crazy part is, Ish didn't have to get his boots smoked. She laid out a different perspective for men in what I think to be the most efficient and palatable way for men to consume. Yet Ish chose to be resilient and in the process start glitching. Like dawg, we good. We can sit down and listen sometimes. It's extremely difficult to come across a gentle woman in 2026. You got in front of one and kept your shield up.
Meg is 31 not 25 she is a grown woman
Ish just doesn’t understand privilege. He’s one of those “everybody has the same opportunity”
Emanny that’s the definition of a track record. A track record is a record of what you actually do??????
Listen to yourself???? How can I be next to you in a gender debate with your female self?
I’m so confused as to why they think we’re supposed to care about what Megs fans “do” to Klay online. He’s not losing money. He’s not losing sleep. He’s fine. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And enough of this “we don’t know what happened”. This isn’t a court of law. Yall not judges or sitting on a jury. She also doesn’t owe yall accountability. Tf are yall on.
Cut this shit off after an hour never stopped a jbp episode before but I’m coo
Ish gets bodied in one topic, then overcompensates with his knowledge in other topics by talking over everyone lol Happens every time
Ish going off on Flip weeks ago for giggling with Joe during guest interviews….but was so unprofessional and immature with Blue. He’s very weird.
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The talking over each other made the last 45 minutes hard to listen to.
Joe is absolutely brilliant
How Ish talk the most and complain about not being able to talk? 😂
Kevin Samuels did lead with his message being rude, he got rude when the caller got rude with him 1st. Emanny wrong as hell.
Probably the worst patreon episode ever
Facts
Why do Sasha look so different i like it it’s a fresh face
I was thinking the same thing. She actually looks better and younger… not that she looked bad at first.
I have to tune out when they start talking about Megan or any woman they don’t agree on . I don’t like a bunch of grown ass men sitting in a circle talking shit about a young black young woman shit’s weird.
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She is Dope !!! Great Pod got a new fan 🤩 thanks Joe
This was good
Last 10 min of the show nobody could get a word off!
Ngl. Listening to this episode is giving me a headache. Just alot of words
Dafuq is she talking about wid u gotta disarm the person first for em to receive it? No matter if it’s factual or not. THATS BULLSHYT. Kuz if I’m saying the truth, fuck it matter how the person feels when receiving it? All that protect feelings bullshyt is a FAR left progressive talking point. If some body says the sky is blue n I don’t wanna hear it, fuck it matter that I don’t wanna hear it. The fact is the fucking sky is blue. She a sexy bbw, but she gotta relax. Is manipulation at its finest top tier level
Low-key, this the best Sasha ever looked to me. She's absolutely stunning with minimal makeup
Thank you ☺️🫶🏽
She just sayin shit… She contradicted herself & changed her stance a multitude of times… 🤦🏾♂️ Shout out to Ish 🫡 for keepin tha bullshit in check while the rest of tha squad had their “kid gloves” on…
I’m
Omg when she spoke on healing and feeling solo on a island, so relatable! Also, some of these comments are exactly what they were arguing against lol The pod can grow guys.
What would be funny (in a great way) is if one day , Emanny is the most evolved most engaging cast member because he allowed growth and authenticity within himself to shine through ❤️Let’s go Emanny!!!!!
Hey she deep
As a long time JBP fan, I love the diversity of guest. I never heard of this young lady but she carried the conversation well. I have always tried to reframe from commenting on the cast negatively but this was so obvious that Ish was bothered by this young lady. On a public platform as a public figure, in my opinion, you can state your position, defend your point even if it’s not the popular stance but there should be some self awareness. Or maybe this is how he wants to present to the world.
She had Ish huffin an puffin all episode lmaoo
Add her to the show once a week
I’m loving the diversity of guests recently. All of them have been so interesting and added to some really great conversations.
Sascha on strictly for the vibes. I can't yell if she's struggling to find her way into the conversations similar to what Ian Dunlap said. Or if she just doesn't have input
Blue thinks she's SAGE from THE BOYS.
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She is nothing more than another grifter that has mastered her ability to exploit the sensitive world we live in today. Emanny has adopted the same talking points to grow his pod.
One of the few guests you actually want to keep watching
All I got from this episode is that Ish don’t listen. Gotdamn! Listen bro.
Ish was upset about the dudes being biased based on who the person discussed is, when he was SUPER biased defending “Dr Bryant” cuz she pretty and that’s his friend. Sir. You same as them lol
Might be the best ep all year 🔥
Once Ish get to sighing and sitting there with a blank face lmaoo it’s over
A lot of things are true for this episode. Blue was making points, but she was also word salad-ing these niggas. Idk if it was intentional or not, but she would go on so long about bs that even I would forget what question they asked her. All the side “I worked here, I did this” was unnecessary and I think took away from her points. Ish was being typical fucking Ish and not listening to understand but listening to respond and be loud and wrong. Idk how this man doesn’t see how he is the poster child for misogyny. He needs to watch these episodes back. Lastly, Joe has said several times he don’t like Meg, anything he says about her is gonna come off shady because remember that first. Meg needs to stop putting her business on the internet, Joe needs to stop talking about her, then we can stop having these discussions (and long ass comments).
I am sorry but what she and most women are afraid of is hard truth and no accountability for anything
Ish gotta geaux. He leaves no room to converse with growth in mind
Ish is checked out lmao
Wait who did Meg cheat on? Because she did not cheat on Pardi. When she dealt with Tory she was single so I am confused.
Ish cooked , she a bird smh
As an avid JBP fan, I’m also familiar with Blue and this was good. This is a tough topic to have with everybody. We’re never gonna change how men think about women. But Joe made a great point about “I have decided I can’t take Meg’s word for how things happen” because that also is a fact!!
Imagine tattooing your own name on your arm
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Sashaaaa is this no makeup!? Girl, gorgeous
☺️🫶🏽 Thank you
Never come back
lol megs new song makes it real hard to not see her post as weaponizing
Nooooo we with ice we on the internet she lied about way more then her pussy
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Blue got a new fan out of me
One thing Ish gon do is defend Ms. Bryant smh
ish doesn't listen and just wants to argue, hes exhausting
1:08:46 E asked why does her pass come up because she has cheated in her fucking past
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Hold up… Sasha 👀
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My first impression of Blu is that she never has an authentic real conversation. She plays to what her audience thinks. Great pod I really enjoyed it.
Too much semantics nowadays.
Therapists do talk about the future all the time. 😂 They're often one of the only people available to assist in action plans. They're called treatment plans.
43:18 Ice face trying not to look at Ish 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Joe gotta stop cutting certain ppl off. His questions shouldn’t continue to overpower the others. (…Unless it’s Flip.)
Ice face during the phone sex give you the tip topic 😂😂😂😭😭😭
I started video and didn’t look at her now it make sense . Her thought process
Yall give people way to many passes , especially black women .
I'm sure Ish is very smart, especially with numbers. Bro got the emotional intelligence of a stop sign. Smh
I agree, seems like he is a smart guy. But the lack self awareness and emotional intelligence on topics of this matter (not all topics) is weird at his age. IDK unless he is being disingenuous about something.
God she a bird ,
liberal talking points are exhausting
Ish… as usual… listening to argue
Blue might be right on all this stuff she is speaking on I’m not debating that It’s just to much for me lol it’s a science to everything I’m just trying to fed the fam not debate every train of thought I have
Ish is not an active listener. He’s so annoying “Let me finish!” When his point is already made. We understand and you’re wrong!
Black women are NOT behind black men at all we feel zero protection
Get her outta here bro this was terrible
Ish is so biased against Cheyenne now cuz of networking opportunities only…. Cuz he used to fry her ass up back when Mel was around and they’d play clips
Lmaoooo factz, now thats his “Homey”, they infamous for that up there.
Ish huffing and puffing the whole episode was insanely irritating.
This was needed. Thanks blue
Blue was dope…good episode.
Claiming that Dr Cheyenne is the reason black men started believing therapy just to say she's doing harm is nasty work. Charlemagne has been championing therapy for black men for 10 years. Disingenuous AF
I agree with ISH on Emma Grede convo. It wasn't specifically directed towards Black women, she is mixed-race herself and has never focused her messaging to them. Should she acknowledge the privileges of all types of women when speaking on various podcasts? This is disingenuous AF.
DC STAND UP!!!!!!!!
This was actually a really good episode
This podcast is gonna have to start paying ME to listen to Ish breathe on the mic every 5 minutes 😂
The word of the day this episode: privilege Everybody has a privilege/advantage
Ish going to war over coochie he finds attractive
Yall hating like shit on Ish. I’m a woman and I guess I’m misogynistic
It’s possible for women to be misogynistic, so I guess you are.
Great episode
Feet SWANGING!!!!
How do I start a petition to get E off the pod 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
💙💙💙💙💙💙 I paid for Blue!!!!
“Thou’ll give the spanky” ayo Emanny came with it this pod 😂
BEST EPISODE OF 2026!!!!!! She brought clarity and accountability and laughs!!!!
As an Alpha…I can’t even say nothing…damn. 🤦🏾♂️
I was with her until she said Klay knew Meg was the most famous orphan & Black Men and White women have the same level of privilege 😂……. She seems chill tho. Y’all let her say anything because she articulates her points well. Just like fake Dr Bryant
I thought that was Precious 🤣
EManny mute it up buddy 🤫 . . Ain’t time to talk 😂 . . Let Ish cook
Ish and these analogies 🤦🏽♀️ can we stay on topic please
Meg is a headache and she’s the drama to most of her OWN problems
Great pod!!!!
So ya’ll bringing this big man hating woe is me bish on the pod, bring Coach Greg Adams let him shoot for the men.
Shawty really hanging her heart on being a safe place for us to talk and I'm realizing that ain't it i feel gas lit, agitated and charged up
Meg is 31 years old not 25
This
She just talking nonstop sprinkling in footnotes of how she's able to see both sides and settling back into the victimhood of black women
This jawn got me tight.
Weirdo
I'm with Ish
She is basing everything she is saying out how it makes you feel. Men dont have the “privilege” of moving off of feelings.
She is showing more empathy and understanding than any woman that’s ever sat up there and this is your take. You want to be a martyr
Ice bought a Cheyanne shirt? He looked so proud of himself when he said it
Also ISH PASS THE FUCKING BALL GAWWD DAMN!!!😂
Ishs light skinned privilege shows in times like this. He veers closer towards a white man ideologically in conversation like this
It’s funny how the only time Ish will tap out or seem to understand a point that people are trying to get him to see is when Ice agrees with the opposite side that Ish is on.
you can tell ish was tender this whole episode, even how he signed off. 😂😂 TENDER!!!
Asf
Please crack her muffin…. She runnin bs….
Ish gotta chill! Bruh is extremely emotionally immature. He really fucked up this interview tryna be right so bad instead of sharing the conversation properly. Everytime someone don’t agree with this nigga we gotta hear these loud sass sighs in the mic.
He wanted to be right so bad 😂😂😂
Ish is ALWAYS talking about how Women won’t hold other Women “accountable” and yet when it comes to Emma Grebe and Cheyenne Bryant he’s doing a Dominique Dawes contortions act on how they aren’t out of pocket for things done and said… it’s gross…
Emma won’t…Coach Bryant tho lol he gotta keep that relationship intact just in case 😂😂😂
As a man I like Blues approach and how she spoke. I understood everything she was saying. Ima start working on my foreplay💯
Broooooo emani be throwing me tf off they be having them dead to rights and here he go and say some shit to try and help them 🤦🏿♂️
Men getting mad at emanny for agreeing with a woman…SCARY.
This lady is a manipulator and a gaslighter spitting in they face and telling them its raining
She knows how to communicate and actively listen, she’s far from those things
We need more Blue 💙💙💙
34:08 - 41:00 wraps up this whole ep
Ish could contribute so much more to these conversations if he were more emotionally intelligent. His points always seem to come from a place of what he’s heard rather than what he’s experienced. He never makes space for other people’s perspectives because he’s too busy trying to appear the smartest.
Bruhhh I’m only 42:55 in and u know what nvm I don’t want to get attacked or cancelled 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Came in not expecting to like this episode but Blue made a lot of sense. I can see why she’s well liked because she gave a lot of great information. & seeing Sasha was just lovely 😍
Amazing guest. Thank you Joe. This was a much appreciated conversation to hear as a black woman.
Acknowledging privilege is her answer for everything, even when it’s not the topic. We get that part. You’re no longer answering the questions, you’re just telling us the way you answer them. That shouldn’t have to constantly be said.
Is Blue suggesting women use foreplay when they engage with men. "Men skip the foreplay"
I feel like they turn up when Joe not on the pod. When he there they pod like “yall chill the boss watching”… I could go far a few more switch out Joe with a polarizing guest Patreon EPs.
Emanny's middle is strawman. He ruined alot of this discussion
I know her big azz smell good
Yesssss Blue 💙💙💙💙💙
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