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October 29, 2024

October Bonus: Catching Up With RFK Jr.

For Halloween we picked one of our scariest topics: What has RFK Jr. has been up to? Updates include a whale head, a bear body and a cameo from Roseanne Barr for some reason.

You can play the episode directly through Patreon or use our RSS feed to add it to your podcast app. Here are the instructions from Patreon.  And if you've got bonus episode requests, as ever, drop them in the comments!

See you next month!

M&A

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Hannah · March 30, 2026

Listening to these bonus episodes in reverse because I just got my Patreon. Such a dark way to see what rfk jr has become

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Br · May 18, 2025

As a diabetes researcher, him calling it juvenile diabetes gave me a stroke. Pediatric diabetes is more severe phenotype and a real concern but if hes saying "juvenile diabetes".... that's the out dated term for t1d

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Abijah Gattis · May 1, 2025

A bear, a whale, and a worm walk into a bar

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Bri · April 21, 2025

Listening to this post destruction of HHS because of RFK Jr is dystopian.

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AmberSwan Mundy · May 5, 2025

So. Fucking. Dark.

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Not_Machines · February 2, 2025

Californian here, when I first registered I accidentally registered as the independent party before registered and fixed it

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S · December 5, 2024

I'm not ashamed to say I ate dog meat in Cambodia while staying with a family in the forest. They were proud to serve it to me and I will try anything. I also taught English in China and my student came from a city where they commonly eat dog meat. Yes dogs are eaten in Asia. Not defending RFK, more saying that just because your culture doesn't eat a certain thing doesn't mean it's not a valid thing for other cultures. I do personally judge negatively cultures and peoples who make animals suffer and damage the environment with the food source.

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Shalma Movassaghi · December 9, 2024

The dog meat trade (DMT) in Cambodia is incredibly cruel, senseless, and disgusting. It’s not for sustenance, it’s a “luxury food” meant to represent masculinity and virility. I was involved in reporting on DMT when I lived there. It’s so weird to say you’re not ashamed.

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mumbles march · November 21, 2024

Could you literally be any funnier Aubrey? Your sotto voce brain worms are for closers killed me.

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Claire DiVizio · November 20, 2024

Between RFK and Dr. Oz, I'm beginning to think that Trump is just choosing his cabinet based on who y'all have torn apart for being insane and terrible lolol 😭

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Chaya Nautiyal Murali · November 19, 2024

Y'all should consider doing an episode on chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalitis!

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Katy Gaston · November 18, 2024

“Brain worms are for closers” sent me 🤣

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Becca Mascull · November 18, 2024

Listening to this after the election hits different... 😭😭😭

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Zelph On The Shelf · November 18, 2024

The bear thing is so Prince Charles coded

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Jess Ni C · November 17, 2024

Griftiest Grifter - Professor Tim Spector https://amp.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/may/18/zoe-nutrition-app-diet-tim-spector-wellness-science

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Cora Leighton · November 16, 2024

We are so effed.

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Leo Puppytime · November 15, 2024

I can’t believe this saga is going to continue and we’re going to have to follow it. Maybe y’all should unlock this one for the public? I want to send this to everyone.

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JCCTigris · November 14, 2024

oh no, poor Mike & Aubrey: this doofus being appointed to HHS (assuming he's approved by the Senate). You guys will never be free of him! :-(

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Chris O. · November 14, 2024

Wait, so does Mike not know the trick of using their profile pic along with “David 💪🏻” so you vaguely know who they are? 😆😆😆

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Jacklyn Jenness · November 14, 2024

I think it's worth noting that T1 Diabetes was called "juvenile diabetes" through part of the 70s. Which makes RFK's framing that much more diabolical imo

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Jacklyn Jenness · November 13, 2024

"This is the last time we'll have to talk about him" JK turns out this has only been the terrifying prequel

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Charlotte · November 12, 2024

Listening to this today for the first time and my skeleton shrinks a little each time you say ‘hopefully this is the last time we have to talk about this man’ ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

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Meh · November 12, 2024

I'm not in US but if there are any vaccinations you've procrastinating from, go now!

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Claire Richardson Pence · November 11, 2024

One quibble - RFK Jr was a real attorney. He was an ADA while an addict, which is such a dereliction of duty, I have no words. But yes, beyond that, he hasn’t done much. And he’s a scary moron.

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CoyDahlia (Lindsey) · November 8, 2024

God I miss my robot vacuum 😭😭😭

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Sarah Rugh · November 8, 2024

Imma need you to more than double down on his shenanigans now 😂😂 did you hear he is coming for our cough syrup?! 😂😂

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Zoe · November 8, 2024

brainworms are for closers!!!

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Lindsay · November 8, 2024

I need y’all to cover Ashley Black and the Fasciablaster. I need to hear Mike rant about this grift.

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Magdalena · November 7, 2024

Please hang in there everyone

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Lilith Anderson · November 6, 2024

so "below sea level" wasn't a lesbian joke then

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Dave · November 5, 2024

You've already done Jamie Oliver, but there's another UK reality show "Doctor in the House" with Rangan Chattergee where a well spoken, thin doctor lives with a working class family and tells them (in a fairly patronising way) that they'll die early unless they drink less soda and eat more broccoli. He now has a very popular health podcast which is littered with all the usual productivity tropes you would expect. I'd love so much to hear you guys' take on it but it is a bit niche.

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Kate Hartfield · November 3, 2024

Nene H assign

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Ubiquisquish · November 1, 2024

While “The Rambler” isn’t a song, it apparently was a broadside. Meaning Aubrey isn’t WRONG, just a couple hundred years too late: http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=361

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Covo · November 6, 2024

Confetti cannon for the shark a vagrant reference.

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Guru Mantra Khalsa · November 1, 2024

Y'all are the best.

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Drew Pearce · November 1, 2024

"Brain worms are for closers!" Not me cackling in my car

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Amanda · November 1, 2024

Okay, you guys owe us a bonus episode on Aronofsky's The Whale

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Ham · October 31, 2024

No I literally work at Central Park and when the bear story dropped I spent a full week having to explain who he was and how whacky he is based on the previous 2 RFK Jr episodes 💀

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Rose · October 31, 2024

Sorry for the gross factor, but I just got over a stomach bug. And listening to this podcast episode with noise cancelling headphones on made vomiting my brains out a much better experience. I was too busy being horrified by RFK 🤣

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Daria · October 31, 2024

Listening to this episode made me realize just how entirely too online I am. None of this was new to me. BRB going to go touch some grass

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Elizabeth Leavy · October 31, 2024

The real question no one is asking: does QAnon think RFK Jr is the reincarnation they’ve been waiting for? No one covers the JFK reincarnation story anymore.

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Cee · October 31, 2024

Brainworms are for closers .... never change, Aubrey. Never change.

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Furbekah · October 31, 2024

My dog's BFF is a robot. Granted it is one of those treat-dispensing bots that I stuck googly eyes on... but he loves to sit next to his "roebit fren" or gaze lovingly into its googly eyes willing it to vomit out some snacks.

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Elizabeth Elliott · October 31, 2024

That was spot on, thank you.

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The Mad Jay Woman · October 31, 2024

This episode is like dipshit bingo - name drops for every nut job and grifter, when I heard Tim Pool I said “Oh JESUS” aloud to an empty room 🤦🏻

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TR · October 31, 2024

Ok admittedly I saw the subject of this and was like “nooooooooo why, please noooooooo more about this turd”. 25 minutes later I’m laughing hysterically in the shower that I forget to rinse the shampoo out of my hair. Well done you two.

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Elle✨ · October 30, 2024

On the anti vax anti autism running mate— as an autistic person I’m pretty confident that it came from the 2 tech industry parents, not the vaccines. lol

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mumbles march · November 21, 2024

I’m sure my dad just watches YouTube videos of people boring cylinder heads over and over (even though he does it for a job) because he’s eccentric and I’m autistic because of vaccines I guess??

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Lore · October 30, 2024

"Okay, question:...No it's not" is how I've felt this entire election cycle

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iamsamiam · October 30, 2024

Love how obvious it is that Mike’s physics YouTube rabbit hole took him to quasars recently

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Alex A · October 30, 2024

Robot vacuums are very underrated. And really an essential for disabled people.

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Neak · October 30, 2024

RFK jr is terrible, and the bear story of putting a bear in Central Park is whack. But the laughing at the basic concept of gathering roadkill thing feels pretty classist and reflective of urban caricatures of rural culture. Putting a bear in Central Park? Yeah, whacky. Picking up usable meat? perhaps unfamiliar to you but not itself evidence of far-right whackiness. -your friendly neighborhood rural queer Nonetheless thanks for this wild ride of an episode 😆

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Rosemary Sullivan · October 30, 2024

As someone who grew up in Massachusetts it’s painful to see who RFK, Jr. has become. Intelligent enough to become a lawyer, but somehow no critical thinking ability.

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fig leaf · November 1, 2024

It's the ivy league education hahaha

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Rai · October 30, 2024

also Joe Biden DIDN'T do the "lockdowns" (there were no real lockdowns to be clear). he lifted them, kicked people off Medicaid, privatized COVID vaxx and treatment, allowed the eviction moratorium to expire without any pushback, reduced the isolation guidance multiple not based on any science but the desires of business. I could go on and on. it's hilarious that ppl see Joe Biden as some COVID extremist when he has overseen a policy that is almost the exact same as what conservative think tankers in 2020 suggested.

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George · October 30, 2024

Always Be Groping!

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Andrew Dunn · October 30, 2024

RFK Jr going FALCON HUNTING is the weirdest part of the bear story

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Sofia Spina · October 30, 2024

How is this man just a reverse Snow White? All these animals, just coming to him and dying.

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Elliott Carrington · October 30, 2024

Love you guys❤️

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Haley Mosley · October 30, 2024

Best tag line yet!!

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Casey Krub · October 30, 2024

I really hoped you were going to also cover RFK Jr and the whole MAHA - Make America Healthy Again "roundtable" hosted by Sen Ron Johnson with Jordan Peterson, the Sears siblings, Jillian Michaels, etc. Though its maybe worth a whole episode? Because its really off the charts. https://wapo.st/4e9TGix

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Brooke Chappell · October 30, 2024

As someone who helped administer a California primary election some months back, and had to explain to many confused and irate voters why they couldn’t vote for certain candidates without changing their registration, fuck the American Independent Party. Fuck them SO HARD.

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Mackenzie Look · October 30, 2024

i am from CA but now live in MN and it took me until this episode to realize i had originally registered with the American Independent Party 🤦🏼‍♀️😂

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Cymantha B · October 30, 2024

Fluid flow lololol

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Hester · October 30, 2024

Regarding the robot vacuum: my dog eats the crumbs and the vacuum cleaner eats the dog hair. It's a whole ecosystem.

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Coco · October 30, 2024

Dying at the gumar to David bicep in less than 30 seconds!

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Laura · October 30, 2024

Just stuck on the bear and that he claimed he was going to use the meat. Clearly not, if he picked it up on the way somewhere and it sat in the back of his car ask day. I mean, did he field dress it before putting it in his car? What was the weather out? Was that bear sitting in the back of his car in 70 degrees, or 30 degrees? (Fahrenheit)

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Brooke Chappell · October 30, 2024

Based on the Behind the Bastards episodes about RFK Jr, I can say with 99% certainty that he planned to feed the bear carcass to his falcons. Maybe after storing it in his neighbor’s freezer for a while.

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Ryan Rowekamp · October 30, 2024

The Supreme Court ruled today that he's stuck on the Michigan and Wisconsin ballots.

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Ellen · October 29, 2024

Okay definitely a nitpick but Assange isn't an American citizen that's one of the criticisms of the US attempting to prosecute him

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Taytum Bouchard · October 29, 2024

My brain really thought for a second that the Google founder had an affair with Elon Musk and not his wife 😆

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Charlotte Louise · October 29, 2024

Someone do a couples costume of the bear and the whale for gay Halloween pleaseeee 🐻 🐳

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Jessica C · October 29, 2024

This was just so good. So happy you’re back 🩷

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Jessica C · October 30, 2024

Also as a school nurse can 10000% confirm “1 in 3 kids” do NOT have diabetes. We see 1-2 in a school per year if at all

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Megan M · October 29, 2024

Scariest Halloween Ghoul: RFK Jr, for his ability to still haunt this election despite dropping out.

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Watereyez5 · October 29, 2024

“The camping, and the dust, and the libertarians” *chef’s kiss

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Jedidjah · October 29, 2024

Have you ever thought about an episode on the ‘ultra processed foods’ hype? Very interesting as it’s based on misusing data from Brazilian research. It also features a British tv ‘extreme medicine’ doctor who wrote a bestselling book about it. Lots of stuff to debunk and fun to be had! It’s really like that ‘clean beauty’ trend where there is a sliver of truth, but the exaggeration wins. Eating fresh products is better, but when even bread is deemed ‘ultra-processed’… Hmm…

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Sara · October 30, 2024

I would second an episode on this, especially if they included themes around moralizing foods

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bru.colombini · October 29, 2024

As a Med student, it drives me crazy when people think “juvenile diabetes” just means children with diabetes, when it’s just a term that’s not rly used anymore for type 1 diabetes ! It just means that most people get type 1 while they’re young !

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Marissa Collins · October 29, 2024

Yeah, Michael kind of missed that RFK Jr was making a WAY bigger claim.

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Madison Kitchen · October 29, 2024

I know this is a small detail, but I can’t stop giggling about the logic that a bicyclist would hit a bear…in MANHATTAN 🫠

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Kim Luke · October 30, 2024

I also find it hard to believe that the cyclist wouldn’t also die after hitting a bear

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Kristnh Freestone · October 29, 2024

This is hilarious to me because I actually teach a class on harvesting roadkill for food...in Portland! It's not that weird, y'all

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Kazoolhu · October 30, 2024

That's the most Portlandish thing I've heard in a while, and I live in Portland, too. (hats off, not an insult)

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frankie · October 29, 2024

just wanted to say that I appreciated the lesbian fluid flow joke even if Michael didn't, I had to pause because I was cackling too hard lmaooo

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Cate Kneale · October 29, 2024

And oh, Michael, tapeworms can be so much longer than you think...

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Cate Kneale · October 29, 2024

UK listener here, would you like to verbally eviscerate Wes Streeting for his transphobe pandering and recent ozempic for the unemployed bullshit? Please?

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Meh · October 30, 2024

that's so dark, and also employment services case workers in mental health wards... Starmer really is a huge disappointment. Even the Tories didn't go so far as to get people in mental health wards into employment services.

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Anne-Marie Wagner · October 29, 2024

I wish I could send this comment directly to Aubrey, and I know this was such a minute part of the episode, but I deeply appreciate Aubrey's knowledge about diabetes in general. I am a Type 1 diabetic, and the way that diabetes is portrayed in pop culture and by politicians is so fucking annoying. It is used as this weapon and punch line about how unhealthy we all are when there is such a strong genetic component for both Type 1 and Type 2!! I wish we would stop demonizing people with diabetes in general, and find ways to just make our lives easier to live. Her responses to general misinformation is so spot on I always just feel so seen.

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Kat Sayrs · October 29, 2024

Seconded! I am also a type 1, and it's refreshing to be so frequently acknowledged on the podcast

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Rlly_gross · October 29, 2024

Every time you guys post about this man I get both excited and a shiver goes down my spine knowing it will only be more disturbing than the last time 😭

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Violence Zack · October 29, 2024

I am outraged that Michael did not laugh at "Brain worms are for closers!".

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Hope Maze · October 29, 2024

Also the framing of the cyclist for the bear death is giving Charles wanting to pretend he had a fake arm for the press.

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Carly Gove · October 30, 2024

lmfaooooooo

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Hope Maze · October 29, 2024

I'm listening to this while sanding a wall so the bear clips are unintelligible lol

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Sara · October 30, 2024

I'm just listening on my phone and I cannot understand them AT ALL

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Brandy Barth · October 29, 2024

Brainz wormz, Aubrey is hilarious.

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Nico · October 29, 2024

Me: ugh end of the month rent is due :(( Me: but that means new maintenance phase 👁️👅👁️

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Lorien Leonard · October 29, 2024

i was literally thinking "Ooo, I'm gonna make a 'Ripped from the headlines Law and Order' joke online about this bear in Central Park story" and then Aubrey said it 😆

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Emily Garten · October 29, 2024

Dun dun!

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Alien@System · October 29, 2024

Seeing another "Catching up with" episode pop up in the Patreon feed made me think of having a Bonus Episode on April 1st that's "Catching up with" for somebody who *hasn't* done anything interesting since then, so the episode is just one minute long.

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Juliet Hope slash Pangolina · October 29, 2024

David. Bicep.

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Flo Saxby · October 29, 2024

American cars must be absolutely humongous to be able to get both a bicycle AND a dead bear cub inside and still be able to park in the city without anyone noticing it.

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Geneva Samuelson · October 29, 2024

I believe he had a VW van at the time. I could be wrong but that’s what I heard.

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Shelley DeWees · October 29, 2024

Haha Aubrey you’re ON IT today! 🤣 Laughing my way home from school dropoff!

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Theo · October 29, 2024

RFK Jr is still on the ballot in Indiana! He’s listed as “We the People” party. Missed this show, thanks for the ep (and condolences on how much you had to read about this guy)

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Anne-Marie Wagner · October 29, 2024

Same for Michigan! hoping that has some impact here in such a critical state

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KWV · October 29, 2024

Bit for the Peep Show fans there “he’s eating Mummy!”

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Pagrocrag · October 29, 2024

Speaking of RFK Jr., another favorite podcast of mine, Binchtopia, decided to dress up this year as RFK jr. and his brain worm for Halloween. Enjoy. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBd2KunNTl-/?igsh=a21yenBoMTVkZ2Jm

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Anna Jane · October 29, 2024

18 year old me registered as an American Independent in California in '99. I was so embarrassed, glad I wasn't alone!

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Leon Colbert · October 29, 2024

so excited to listen to this after having heard Behind the Bastard’s series on him. what a character.

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Autumn BR · October 29, 2024

I have been wanting you guys to catch up on him forever omg 😭 I can’t wait to listen to this

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Lauren Milton · October 29, 2024

Aubrey's "okay" at the beginning when Michael is talking about all of the animals that are going to be involved sounds very resigned and like "Hang on, let me get my cup of dumb bitch juice to get through this." 🤣

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EmBot · October 29, 2024

Aubrey

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Rosemarie Cawkwell · October 29, 2024

Behind The Bastards did a good deep dive into how vile RFK Jr is. I recommend.

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Nina V~ · October 29, 2024

i'm humbly requesting a joint maintenance phase/ibck episode where michael just expounds upon astronomy & space stuff. xD

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Lindsay · October 29, 2024

Aubrey’s lil giggle at “fish and wildlife regulations” freaking sent me.

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Kirstine · October 29, 2024

About the Independence Party, in Denmark, a right winger recently had the proposed name for his new party rejected by the election authorities. The party name in question was "Denmark's Best Party"

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Violence Zack · October 29, 2024

Wish we rejected shit like that here. Right Wing organizations are always named shit like "America is Beautiful!" or "Protecting Our Children!". 🤦‍♂️

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Miranda Field-Martin · October 29, 2024

i live in portland and was meeting those canvassers all the time this summer, especially at country fair (lol). when they showed up outside the lesbian bar me and my very drunk friends said “no!!!!! he’s an anti vaxer!!” and the guy said “yeah i just get paid by the signature, man. i know he sucks” 😵‍💫🤦🏻‍♀️

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Amber Smigiel · October 29, 2024

Wow listening to this episode and the Behind the Bastards episodes about RFKJR in one week was A Lot of gross to consume.

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Erin King · October 29, 2024

Y’all. I love you, but please. Emu = eeeeem-you. Not eeeemoooo

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Julia Wykes · October 29, 2024

That’s just going to make Mike double down… like with “denowment” 😆

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Roo · October 29, 2024

'I have a podcast voice' 😆