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March 11, 2025

FlirtyFetishes is Compatible! (Latest Version)

Edit (March 10): The current version of FlirtyFetishes: BDSiM appears to be functioning and is compatible with version: 1.113.291 and the new TS4 Expansion Pack "Businesses & Hobbies." Let me know if you encounter any issues! 

Edit (Feb 18): Hey! The crash that was occurring after adding the Masochist Trait seems to be resolved! Download this version to replace it now!

Edit (Feb. 6): Okay! I have replaced the Hygiene bar with the BDSiM Meter. Don't like it? Have another suggestion? Let me know! This only a Beta and nothing is set in "code." At least for now, there should not be any crashing! I appreciate your all's patience. Let me know what you think!

*NSFW Images!

Heyyy. Here is the latest version of FlirtyFetishes: BDSiM!

This update includes:

  • 9 new animations

  • Social Event called BDSiM Training Session

  • BDSiM Meter replaces the Social Motive

  • SimDrop (Dom/sub drop) that occurs when the BDSiM Meter depletes

  • 10 Aftercare Social Interactions

I told ya it was going to big ;)

A few things to know about this update:

I would consider the Training Session and SimDrop/Aftercare a Beta since I would love for you try it out and let me know what you would like to see in the coming months with it. I do plan on adding more training, of course!

To begin the BDSiM Training Session, simply open the Social Events and select the Training Session. There are not any Rewards available at this time. I do have wonderfully sexy CC from Eve that will be coming soon!

I do have the option to hire Dom and sub Sims to participate. However, it will be completely random as I am still working on this feature. But if you dare, try it out and let me know what you'd like to add!

Because these Interactions are taking place outside of Wicked Whims sex, you must initiate a Sim's erection first. I have made this easy by creating an option within the BDSiM Training menu! Thank TURBODRIVER for letting me add this for my mod!

Then, let the training begin! Here are examples of the custom training Socials with animations by Marysal! I am working on a way to for the sub Sim to stay on their knees during the blow-j interactions.

All these new BDSiM Socials pair well with the new Motive: the BDSiM Meter!

Look at how cute! This Meter will deplete with BDSiM Socials and will fill with Aftercare Socials. You can find the Aftercare Socials in the FlirtyFetishes pie menu.

I did fix the UI issues and the spank animation!

Please, give me feedback on what you like, what you don't, and what you like to see changed or added!

One more thing: I will be away from Jan 26 until Feb 2! I will read and get back to you all with your previous comments and the ones after today! I know I was MIA and I apologize, but here is what I have been working on and I hope you enjoy!

Comments (57)

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Paperstars · October 26, 2025

I need some help I cannot for the life of me, get the BDSim Training pie menu to show up. I have the latest mod update installed, chose only one (Exclusive), it is only one folder deep, WW and all other mods are updated to the most recent... I even cheated their Dom/Sub attributes, thinking maybe they just weren't a high enough level for "training". I set up the BDSim Training Event through the phone, chose who I wanted, all of that. And when the event starts, and it gives the goals to meet, I still cannot find that BDSim Training pie Menu anywhere to start! I am at a loss how to get it to show...Not even the option to Give Erection shows up. What am I doin wrong??

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bn jchjh · October 20, 2025

what about toilet stuff? I know its niche but still

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EllaNoir · October 20, 2025

I would be happy to create something like this for commission pay.

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Emma Lee · May 23, 2025

Can't read the books or Click on them, they go straight to household inventory.

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Wiky · April 24, 2025

Hi, I have a problem with the books. After I buy them, they don't show up in my library, so I can't read them. I don't know what to do. Thank you.

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MopZeku Beach · April 29, 2025

same

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Albert Liu · April 16, 2025

i want cuckolding animation and event plz

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Lundzz · April 8, 2025

Hi there, I have really tried everything to make this mod work 😭 I have all the perks, outfits and all that, but I can’t get to the actual training! I’ve set the event and can see it, but there is no “get erect” pie menu? Unless I’m missing something? Someone please help😢

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sulphurkat · April 7, 2025

Hi! I'm really enjoying this mod or at least I used to, but I put it in my mods folder after downloading it and it literally won't work, like if I click on more choices it doesn't show the flirty fetishes option, any idea how to fix this? I have the newest version downloaded btw!

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sulphurkat · April 7, 2025

Oh wait never mind, I tweaked it around a bit while in game and all I had to do was assign my sims wicked attributes then I got the FF option in the pie menu!! Hurray! Have a good day :)

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ryzamei correa · April 1, 2025

Hello. I've been really enjoying your mod and contents so far and I recently started to play around with BDSM only to find out I can't access certain interactions like when I try to click on an equipment it says "Only dominants can lock other Sims inside devices" and "Directed Training" is not available for me too. They have already established a slave/sub and master/Dom relationship and it doesn't work even if I plan a BDSM training. And it also noticed me about scheduled punishmen what are we supposed to do exactly or perform other than punishing them using the social interaction. I'm actually pretty lost.. :<

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EllaNoir · April 3, 2025

Hi, unfortunately, this is not the mod you're looking for. This BDSM mod for the Sims 4 does not have anything like you mentioned as far as devices go.

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Avi · March 30, 2025

Help, mine doesn't work. I downloaded the zip, unzipped it but i can only buy the books and not interact with them and i don't have any trait :(

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EllaNoir · April 3, 2025

Hi! Have you installed the newest version?

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Calvin Whitman · March 29, 2025

Hi, First off I love this mod and it really is fun. However, I am not sure if this has been said or not but whenever I open the friends list it gets all buggy and glitchy and when I remove this mod the problems is gone. Is there a way to fix this or has this been made aware of?

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EllaNoir · April 3, 2025

Hi! I am.glad you are enjoying it 😉 can you tell me which friends list you are referring to? The relationship panel, perhaps? Which version are you using? Please install the newest version and let me know if the issue persists!

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adrian · March 28, 2025

the books don't appear after i buy them in the bookshelf

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Zara · March 29, 2025

We are aware of the issue, it will be fixed in the next update.

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TrueJess · March 25, 2025

hello im new to this mod. is there a cheat mode command or potion to max out the BDSiM meter? sometimes my sims get too busy with life or careers and once i start the death spiral its hard to recover.

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Zara · March 26, 2025

Hello, I hope you're enjoying EllaNoir's mod so far! To fill your sims needs you can: -Open the cheat console by pressing Ctrl+Shift+C -Type in testingcheatstrue and press enter -Shift click on your sim and select "make happy" Hope that helps!

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Hardluck Joesephine · March 24, 2025

PLEASE get rid of the BDSiM Meter!!! OMG It's ridiculous!!! My Sim's Plumbob is RED all the time no matter what I do!!!

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Zara · March 24, 2025

Hi! Thank you for your feedback. In case you missed it, EllaNoir is currently working on this and the new version WITHOUT the Meter will be out by the end of March. Your patience is appreciated at this time.

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aiks483 · March 16, 2025

I have a problem. I buy books, pay for them, get information that they are on the shelf or in the equipment, but they are not there.

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Zara · March 18, 2025

We are aware of the issue, you can expect functioning books this month.

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Justin Qiu · March 15, 2025

Hi Ella, I am new to this mod and can I ask a question? Does this mod automatically assign d/s traits to all sims? Or am I supposed to assign traits to sims using WW myself? I asked this because I found no sims have d/s traits originally, I had to assign them using WW to see the special social interaction option pop up. Also, does this mod include animations? If so, how can I trigger them? I just tried some basic social interactions and they are all regular conversations. Thanks!

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Zara · March 16, 2025

Hi, Justin! We are happy to see you trying out FlirtyFetishes: BDSiM! I am Zara, given the role as Overseer, to respond when EllaNoir is not available. For FF to be initiated, the BDSiM traits must be added to Sims via the Rewards Store or Wicked Attributes. Yes, custom animations, created by my animator Marysal, exist for some Social Interactions, but not all. Trying our different traits and Social Events, like the new Training Session, will show you where the BDSiM animations appear. If you need anymore guidance, just let us know. We are always happy to help!

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Emetrix · March 12, 2025

Hi Ellanoir may i suggest maybe not taking foundamental motive like hygiene and maybe take Fun motive instead if not maybe go back to social motive or find another way to show those needs maybe let that bar be invisible like oral hygiene and thirst and do something like Waffles confort motive mod. I love your mod but sadly won't keep it with my hygiene gone hope you find a way soon thks for the work :)

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Zara · March 13, 2025

Hey! EllaNoir had the bar replace the Fun Motive originally, however, it had conflicts with another mod. But she is aware others are experiencing this as well and is creating a solution you can expect this month. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope to get FF back in your game soon!

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Eagle489 · March 12, 2025

tbh I'm not a huge fan of replacing any of the base needs of Sims as I've found it frequently bugs out and causes conflicts, as it is here. My subby vampire and werewolf don't even have the BDSiM bars. I've also noticed Sims will sometimes hang out in the shower forever now, presumably because there's no hygiene need to fill up. Debuffs related to Spent's Cumshine mod also seem to behave unreliably with this mod installed. I know nobody likes split versions, especially anyone supporting them, but I think it wouldn't be a bad idea here. Maybe one for people who want this mechanic and one for those who don't?

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Zara · March 13, 2025

Thank you for your input. EllaNoir is currently in the process of changing this feature. You can expect some kind of solution this month and we apologize for the inconvenience!

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Khloe foulds · March 12, 2025

I seem to be having a problem where the sims can use FF interactions with each other, but the attributes menu is nowhere to be found, and nothing in the rewards store! And when I send my sims to try for a baby or have sex, it's like they reset and the romance gets added but they never took part in anything... my other mods are all up to date and I have tested by taking everything except this and WW out of my folder. Sorry to be a bother!

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Zara · March 13, 2025

Definitely not a bother! I just need some more information. So, you have added thr BDSiM traits to your Sims via the attributes menu/reward store, then they disappear after they are added from the menus? If not, please explain in detail what is expected to happen, what is happening instead, and if it occurs after anything. Are your Sims in any of the FlirtyFetishes relationships? Please list which ones. Get back whenever you can and let's get this figured out!

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Michelle Joy Collins · March 11, 2025

I hired 2 masters and 3 subs, the two masters showed up but the subs haven't, also, not sure if it's w/ FF or WW, but my man's dick turned black

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Khloe foulds · March 12, 2025

Same happened with mine!

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Cloaked · March 11, 2025

Have y'all tried this with Nisa's succubus?

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Sun Midnight · March 11, 2025

Why is the updated mod in beta?

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EllaNoir · March 11, 2025

There are numerous features that have been added recently and I would like to iron out an bugs or issues before I consider it official.

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LoveableWitch · March 7, 2025

Hi there, I absolutely love your mod and cannot think I ever played Sims without it Thank you!!!, But for me the Hygiene bar completely disappeared. I have your mod paired with Spinning plumbob's FvW mod and have a witch , a sub, and after the session when she had the drop (oops) her hygiene bar disappeared, Iplayed through the drop but the hygiene bar never came back. Had to reset to a save before adding this version.

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Zara · March 9, 2025

Hey! EllaNoir moved the BDSiM Meter from the Social bar to the Hygiene bar due to conflicts with another mod. Nonetheless, since this is a Beta, EllaNoir has received feedback since these Beta features were released, and is working to change this to better fit the BDSiM expections. Also, we are so happy you are enjoying FF! I am Zara and have been given role of Overseer from EllaNoir to reach out when she is not available.

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Barricade17 · March 6, 2025

Hey, just a small request. Can you make the needs bar an optional add on? I'd absolutely love to try these new features but don't want to lose the hygiene bar or have it interfere with DoS. I have a sim who is owned by someone through DoS and that one bar is already enough to keep up with, so its preventing me (by the amount of effort I'd have to also put into managing their sub's BDSiM bar, as well) from having them start a dynamic with their submissive. If it's not possible, just ignore me, I can simply just work around it by excluding use of the dynamic.

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Zara · March 9, 2025

Hi! That is a completely understandable request. I know she is currently changing the BDSiM Meter's visibility and your concerns should be resolved this month!

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Onyx Anon · March 5, 2025

Hey! Thank you for all of your hard work, it's much appreciated. I love being able to give my sims these traits as wicked attributes, it adds so much to my game, but I find myself not playing with this mod as much as I'd like to when I'm utilizing BDSM with my sims, and it is mostly due to compatibility with Kritical's Dreams of Surrender. I really appreciate the switch to hygiene need over social need, and I was incredibly excited for this beta version, as it would mean I could play with both! However, though the BDSiM need replaces hygiene instead of social, it still takes up the social SLOT (under the fun need), and because of this, the new features are not compatible with Dreams of Surrender, which is incredibly disappointing to me. I'm hoping that this wasn't intentional and is a simple fix, but I would love to see it changed. Without the need switch, there's no accessibility to the training, and it seems there may be other functionality locked behind it. Additionally, I've had some issues with the aftercare interactions... they succeed, and the bar fills (on sims who have the BDSiM need), but no animation plays, and it often looks like the interaction gets interrupted by a random conversation interaction. As feedback, I also would love for the need change to be opt-in, where some sims would be very casual with their use of BDSM dynamics (as was the case before, where it would be sprinkled into conversation, but not utilized all the time), and more hardcore sims could have the BDSiM need replace their hygiene need. (If not fully opt-in, then maybe beyond a certain skill level?) Anyway, I'd love to use the new features on my existing sims that use Kritical's system, but I will keep using this anyway, I can't overstate how lovely the interaction additions are, especially with being able to assign them so easily via wicked attributes!

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EllaNoir · March 5, 2025

Hi! I appreciate your kind words; you are very welcome! Omg, so today as I was doing some mod testing, I saw that BDSiM Meter ended up in the same motive area as before! I have no idea why, because Hygiene has always been elsewhere. So thanks for letting me know! Have you experienced any other incompatibilities with FlirtyFetishes and Dreams of Surrender? "Without the need switch, there's no accessibility to the training, and it seems there may be other functionality locked behind it. " If I understand you, then yes, you are correct. The BDSiM Meter and Training Session Situation have been coded in a way that runs tests to prompt other features. More specifically, for the BDSiM Meter to appear, a Sim must have a hidden trait that states the Sim's role-types (Dom/sub). That hidden trait is added to the Sim once they perform a BDSiM interaction. In other words, the moment a Sim performs a BDSiM social interaction, the hidden trait is added, thus, the meter is as well. These types of tests ensure only Sims the player intends to have BDSiM traits and features do and ol' Agnes Crumplebottom isn't licking shoes or spanking pussies in the street. (Unless that is what the player wants.) If this was not what you were saying, please elaborate! Can you please list the Aftercare interactions this happens with? Do you just have one FlirtyFetishes .package file in your Mods folder? Yessss. I was actually meditating on something like this! Another person mentioned the SimDrop did not fit their Sim's personality, which has me pondering how to evolve this feature so all Sims can be themselves in the BDSiM Lifestyle, right? I will try to create a way for the BDSiM Meter to appear in the Motive Panel for selected Sims, while the motive will be hidden and less affecting for others. And perhaps a way to disable it entirely, either individually or globally. Of course, as long as I am able to! I really like your feedback, thank you! I plan to have some kind of resolution for the BDSiM Meter and its interference with Kritical's mod this month. Your patience and kind words are awesome, thank youuuu. Please, never hesitate to share your ideas and all feedback with me!

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Hi res 16 · March 4, 2025

THANKS!!!!!!! Wanna try it soon

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sk8rgirl · March 2, 2025

Hiya! Sorry, but I haven't had any luck so far starting a training session. I can create the event, but there's no BDSM training menu in any of my pie menu options. (Both for the dom and sub.) The event technically begins in the sense that the standard sims event UI pops up in the left corner, and I noted that they do have the "Thank for coming" interaction I think is a standard interaction for every Sims 4 event. (Or maybe it was only the dom who could thank the sub, I didn't check to see if both sims could do it as I think it's unrelated.) There's no training menu where I can begin the session by the sub giving the dom an erection or anything like that. I did just remember that the numerous times I tried to create the event, I had the event rewards option on, though I know through this post that rewards will be coming in a future update—so maybe that's creating the issue for me? I'll try again after I finish this comment but with the rewards turned off, and will reply to this comment if that fixed it, and won't replay if nothing changed. Flirty Fetishes of course is working for everything else, and those two sims I've testing with both have high to maxed BDSM skills, and I've been Flirty Fetishes user for the past year, so it's not that I've installed the mod wrong or have failed to add the traits or anything lol. I'm sure you're very busy with the next update, so don't think of my comment as a complaint or being pushy or anything like that! Just giving a bug report, as I know you worked hard implementing training sessions and I'm really excited to try them! I LOVE this mod and have been a Patreon supporter for over a year now, and I consider it a vital part of my Sims 4 gameplay!

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EllaNoir · March 4, 2025

Hey! Thank you for your kind words and descriptive information! So I was just playing with it and I noticed that if two Sims who have just been created and had the BDSiM Traits added with NO INTERACTIONS with each other, the Training pie menu did not pop up--only the erection one. So I preformed a normal BDSiM Social for both, like a Dominant social and a Brat social. After the BDSiM Meter popped up, the pie menu appeared! Could this be something similar with your game? This is all a lot I have done so I appreciate your feedback so I can get this solved!

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Sophiespeng · February 22, 2025

I'm sorry if I'm being annoying or missing a step but I've followed instructions from both LL and patreon on how I install FF, removing one of the files and keeping TS4 file and the package file and adding to mods file but it still hasn't worked. I've used BE to try and find broken cc and it doesn't detect any. I've tried the latest patch and it still has not worked. Sorry if i'm being annoying for missing a step or anything but is there anything I can try and check to see if i am missing anything?

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EllaNoir · February 22, 2025

Hey! So you're saying FlirtyFetishes isn't showing up in your game? Have you added the BDSiM traits to your Sims?

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Tator Tot · February 12, 2025

I'm not having the BDSiM Training menu pop up during the event. I assumed it is located when clicking on the sims partners flirtyfetishes menu. Is it located somewhere else?

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EllaNoir · February 18, 2025

Hey! Yes, it is a separate pie menu! It says "BDSiM Training" and has the BDSiM icon: a ball gag. And you should just have to click on the Sim you want to train. This is all prompted after creating the Event via the phone.

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Isra · February 12, 2025

Just installed this and I've opened the game 4 times but whenever I click on my sims female partner the game exits with a beep. Not sure what's happening.

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EllaNoir · February 18, 2025

Hi! Which version are you using? Can you please elaborate the steps that are done before the crash occurs?

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Pol Roger · January 28, 2025

Alas! I commented too soon. It seems that using FF, even the non-beta version, conflicts with Kritical's BDSM. It stops saved games from loading (at least for me). Once again, it would be a shame to have to choose, as the two mods do different things.

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Pol Roger · January 28, 2025

Yes, I also like using Kritical's BDSM alongside Flirty Fetishes. The new FF beta seems to cause a crash when using Kritical's mod as well. The current non-beta FF appears to work okay with K. My guess is that both are trying to use the social meter for different purposes. I hope Ella can see a way to make the mods compatible. They do slightly different things and it would be a pity to have to choose between them.

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EllaNoir · February 4, 2025

Yes, definitely going to get them to work together!

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Sidsel Pedersen · January 26, 2025

I know I am properly not the only one who combine your mod with Kritical's bdsm mod that also change the social meter to another meter (at least for the subs). Do the to mods still play nice with each other?

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EllaNoir · February 4, 2025

No concurrently 😩 but I'm brainstorming how to fix this!