Download Issues...
Hey guys! Just a heads up, someone has claimed some files on the Google Drive account that we use to host the full reaction downloads (yes, the blurred/muted full reactions).
They give us a few URL's of the 'infringing' content but, they've suspended the Google Drive account, so we can't even check to see what the content is let a lone remove it. We've reached out to Google, but they said it'll take 2 days for an account specialist to review our case...
All that to say that downloads won't be working for a few days. So sorry about that! We'll look into some alternatives, but once we get an update, I'll let you know!
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And... it's entirely possible the drive will never return because nothing has changed. If Google's hands are tied when a complaint is made, there is no reason that a new complaint could be made with very small changes and it would restart the lockout process all over again. Could this be the real underlying message being conveyed? Erwin Smith character asks "Who do you think is the real enemy?"
It's technically possible to have a "distributed" download system where members replicate a portion of the files library into their own google drive, there is a very simple and quick Copy command. Then the files cannot be shut off from one source. Not that I'm suggesting this is how we do it but a member can easily create a new email and a free drive account is allocated to that email. Not saying that this is an exploit... because it's likely also very little additional overhead for Google. The copy files are fast because they are kept in the cloud and probably the data isn't even duplicated, it's just that a new pointer is saved to the same data.
I've heard pCloud is a well-reviewed and well-liked online storage site, and based in Switzerland so hopefully less touchable by troublesome corporations?
How about all the PiB fans start a petition to Google to "Release the Reactions"!
I've been thinking... It's entirely possible the drive will never come back...
oops, I don't know what I was thinking here... but... let's continue just for fun, For conspiracy theorists we can pick from several, 1) this is a business ploy - they want to advertise their own file sharing system and so they throw a monkey wrench to cause chaos... so that alternative pay to host files are looked into. This is where the saying "follow the money" is applied. 2) a third party wants to drum up business by looking for exploits. Their modus operandi (their way of doing business) is to cause havoc where there is a big enough crowd and enough money is being exchanged, they want to be there to take some of the cash. This is like when gangsters lean on a small business to cause them trouble, then they ask for a little bit of money "for protection" from such trouble. And then just to make sure these are just conspiracy theories, let's add an outlandish one, 3) someone has an axe to grind. There is too much beauty in the world and they want to see it burn. Wyatt asks Doc... "Why would they do this? What would cause someone to do such things?" Doc - "Revenge." Wyatt - "Revenge for what?!" Doc - "For being born." They say some people have lost direction and lost meaning in life. They see things, beautiful things in the world and they want to be part of it. They believe they are entitled to it. They are drawn to that place but their eyes are not open, they see phantasms. Because there is nothing positive in their lives to compare to, they conclude there must be something wrong in this place of beauty. They dig and they dig for something to latch onto. In desperation but they don't know why. This is like when someone has too much time on their hands, they seek a cause outside of themselves. They do not have examples of success, they have not tried to create something themselves. So they look outside for what others have created and then "they meddle." They like to meddle in things. They like to fix what don't need fixin'. It might look like they'd rather see something burn, what others have created. It's because they don't know what it's like to create, the next best thing that give them meaning is to destroy.
We can wait :)
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Cassie, perhaps you would have had an easier time filming the "censored" segment on the Poppies if you had done so immediately following this development. :-)
If you hosted your first few reaction they were not blurred, I think Alien, Shawshank, Greenmile etc.
Imagine how John Wick handles these issues ;)
Or more recently, The Beekeeper.
My Understanding is that if you have copyrighted content and share it, then you're going to have issues with any cloud service from Google/ Dropbox/ Microsoft. Even though its blurred and obstructed I think trying to get that distinction raised may not work simply because they make a lot of binary decisions. It maybe easier and cheaper to host these on your own NAS. You might also want to check out bunnynet for storage. Its very cheap.
Asia and bj reactors use vimeo without a prob and can show the whole movie
They can't show the whole movie. They may be getting away with it, but it is highly illegal and each instance can have a $250,000 fine and 5 years in prison.
mega.nz could be an option.
Be careful. Could be a scam
Or some kind of Hack. I’m hoping she finds a real person somewhere to talk to that can confirm it was MGM or Google that did this.
It was probably Whimsory trying to sabotage the competition
A copyright infringement on the full reactions containing just mere seconds of content in the beginning would be ridiculous on its own, but claiming copyright over content that hasn't even been shared there in any form is outright malicious. Google used to have a motto in their code of conduct: "Don't be evil". They removed it in 2018. I have seen cases of people losing their entire Google account for no good reason. For instance, I read about a father who took some nude pictures of his newborn baby to send them to their pediatrician because of a skin problem. His phone automatically uploaded them to his Photos account and Google detected them as child abuse. They suspended his account and reported him to the police. He had to go through an investigation and prove his innocence with the help of their doctor. He tried to appeal to Google and show them the evidence, but they denied his appeal even after he was cleared by the police of any wrongdoing. They did not even let him access his email for a grace period so that he may transition all his registrations to another email address. I've been thinking about moving my main email account to somewhere else ever since reading about few stories like this, because you can lose so much if you accidentally get caught by some Google automation. Reading this case is definitely one big nudge towards that.
I know you definitely didn’t need this; being sick, the kids, the house….we’re in your corner. Saying a prayer for strength AND resolution.
Gurl, I'm getting to old for this shit Riggs lol. Don't worry we got your back. Technical difficulties happen. Thanks for all the hard work and great content. Don't let these hiccups get to you
Cassie, I have a complete list of the full reactions; the titles and the download links. You could use that to match links to titles if you want. Let me know and I can send it to you.
Bright Angel Miss Cassie our hearts break when someone as kind and caring as you are is treated so poorly.
This wouldn’t have happened with Lougle.
I'm selling my Google stock.
My wife and I will patiently wait until Google stops their foolishness.
Just remember, that beautiful things take time, and they are always worth the wait. So be patient, wonderful things are on their way.
You should look in to streamable.com for your full reactions. It is video hosting but not one you can search or subscribe to what anyone posts. I know a few reactors that use it.
It's so asinine - don't these people realize that these reactions cause people to watch and rewatch their films when they otherwise wouldn't? It's a POSITIVE for them.
When it comes to copyrights, the studios own the rights to their IP. They are within their legal right to do what they want with it, whether we agree with it or not.
It's likely a bot or third party checking for content, and you could probably fight this. Can you let us know the details of who exactly sent the infringement notice?
We have a name, phone number, business etc... I don't want to out them quite yet but it is a 3rd party on behalf of "MGMSI".
Like I have been saying for a while, back up everything that uses Google on a non-Google platform. Mirror the edited reactions to something like Rumble, perhaps do that for the full reactions too. Downloads, I don't know where to use as a backup. The important thing is Google is evil, don't rely on them.
Very, very evil.
Most of these titles are not even in this reaction channel. This is a mistake...
How many mistakes should one be allowed to make before being categorized as the boy who cried wolf?
and with the limited knowledge of google tech reps, maybe i should open up my server farm for exclusive rights? lol. since my IT days at Charles Schwab in the 90s, i havent had any..ANY acct hacked using my special programs..thru the years, im better than they are. lol
Woe is she who angers the tech gods. I mean really, "Why does God need a starship?"
Have You Seen the Saucers? Tranquility Base..there goes the neighborhood. lol
No worries Cassie! I’m sure you and Ben will work this out eventually. As much fun (and necessary) as technology can be when it works, it can also drive you absolutely insane when it doesn’t. But, it also brought you to us, and we’re not going anywhere.
These studios would do well to support movie reactors instead of working against them. I reckon you've helped sell quite a bit of rentals, digitals, and blu-rays.
Seriously. I legit bought Star Trek stuff recently bc popcorn in bed reminded me of old friends Shutting down hype for IP seems harmful to said IP. I thought studio execs were supposed to be obsessed with profit 😂
Yeah big tech like google are a pain in the "butt". Side note you can use an alternative/temp email to open a free google account with 15GB of space. You can then at least upload Lincoln and a couple others and share those links out to us 😍
Scanning your personal files for this is ridiculous. What if it is a legit copy of a bought dvd. The fact that they are claiming movies that are not on there does raise the eyebrows. Also that they can detect movies from a blurred little box. Hmm 🤔
I think a lot of it is just straight up trolling content that they don’t want out there. Until there is a penalty for abusing the copyright claim system, they will keep doing it.
we just need one famous person, music/acting artist who isnt in it for the money to file suit and get it to federal court. There are artists that do it for the love of it. The Grateful Dead had a goddmn taping section with special tickets for fans to share the music. They didnt care what we did with it after show was done.
dont stress you have a great team of tech people that we have complete faith in. I know it will all be fine soon , we're not going anywhere 😉
You can use a program like TubeDigger and download them directly off youtube
Could it be the old reactions that had the full movie on them?
I don't think so... I don't believe those are hosted on Google Drive, but I can't check :( The email does mention these movies (I haven't seen most of them): "THUNDERBALL (1965) TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) WIND RIVER (2017) ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE (2022) SILENCE OF THE LAMBS (1991), THE ROCKY 5 (1990) THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR (1999), THE FIGHTING WITH MY FAMILY (2019) STARGATE SG-1 (1997)" ("Intellectual Property") So I'm just confused and Google is no help haha
Best of luck with this Cassie. Sure you guys will sort it.
REFUND REFUND REFUND!!! ;-) Good luck with this, lets hope its just a little mistake and will be easy to fix. Guess this stuff is quite scary to you, but I am also sure you did your homework very well and everything will be fine
Thanks for the heads up Cassie. Just another headache to add to your crazy week. Hang in there!!
Just send the files to my personal email please. :)