[YT Edit] My Fair Lady (1964)

The difference between Henry Higgins and the Colonel was that Higgins was available. He thought himself a confirmed bachelor but he was rightly smitten. Done in via his own interests and pursuit of the language. His downfall began when he let a woman in the house 😊 By the end he could not live without her. Well... he could have soldiered on... but definitely he would not be the same again. The difference between Eliza and Henry was that he held too much power over her at the beginning. There was no way they could have an equitable relationship without things breaking down first. "He made her" and she fell in love with him as seen when she sang "I Could Have Danced All Night" She had to throw out that infatuation... outgrow it and then she had to come into her own. She had to be independent of Higgins the tyrant. Only afterwards could their relationship progress forward. In a way, Henry never changed. It was himself who took Eliza in and himself who fell in love with her. It was she who changed. He realized he was in love with that song "I've Grown Accustomed to her Face." He wished aloud why can't a woman be more like a man. Remember the ending when he left. Usually the man chases after the woman but in this case he left... and she came after him. She was the one who came to him, like a man would. This is the beginning of a more mature relationship. From here their relationship are their own... we don't have to meddle. The slippers? She chucked them at him last time 🙂 In other movies they say "He rescues the fair damsel... and she rescues him right back." It's the same here... but more so.

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Well I gave this a go & though it was terrible. Wasn’t a fan of some of the acting and some of the songs I thought was a bit pointless. But just not a fan of these movies from the 50s & 60s, but I thought I’d just watch the YouTube edit as I didn’t think I’d made it through the full film.

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As has been stated, My Fair Lady the movie is based on My Fair Lady the musical which was an adaptation of George Bernard Shaw's play Pygmalion. Here's an amusing "alternate" scene: https://i.ibb.co/DHmPjbqp/Jolly-good.jpg (And yes, I am reminded of the Major in Fawlty Towers.)

I agree, this was a tad too long. I also think the songs aren’t as memorable as those from other musicals. Fiddler on the Roof is a classic and the songs will stay with you. Another musical is An American in Paris, with great dancing by Gene Kelly.

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Cassie you're right, it did run way too long on music. Eliza's dad didn't need to hog so blasted much screen time! The movie was not ABOUT HIM. As for Audrey Hepburn's singing, the first day that she had a song to sing she used her own voice and it sounded lovely. But the studio insisted Marni Nixon, who dubbed the songs for many starlets of the day, be the voice in the movie. Audrey stormed off the set in anger, but returned next day and apologized. Professor Higgins' voice was the real actor, but he refused to sing because he couldn't carry a tune, so they had him speak his way through the lyrics. The microphone was concealed in his ever present sweater. When Higgins was at his Mother's house he suddenly praised her for being a tower of strength, so he could take credit for it. When in fact it was Eliza finding her inner strength all along.

I grew up watching this movie and it’s always fun to watch it as an adult because i pick up different things. I think Eliza returns because she knows that Higgins has truly learned to care for her in his own way and will continue to push her. She could go marry Freddy and probably be happy but as she said, she’d support him and i feel like she wouldn’t be challenged. She wouldn’t have a chance to grow and shine. She’d be perfectly ok with him. Higgins turning point for me though is when Pickering calls the police to report her missing. The police are asking for her description and Pickering can’t answer but Higgins knows everything about her. It’s such a subtle sign to who truly cares for her. Pickering treated her like a lady but didn’t SEE her. I also think when they are at his mom’s house, he tell Eliza she is a pillar of strength now. I feel like that is another turning point, he sees her as someone who is now standing up for herself and holding her own against him. She isn’t just cowering to him like everyone else and i think that draws him to her more. He’s never going to be a romantic guy like Freddie, that’s not who he is. She decides she wants the challenge back, thus choosing to return to him instead of marrying Freddie.

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[Me again? Has everyone else gone to sleep, or is there some party I'm the only one not invited to?] Cassie's previous exposure to an "Englishman" who has striven to elevate his station by improving his English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3WuX4JEKZU&t=725s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3WuX4JEKZU&t=1233s

This reaction dedicated to Gabor. :-)

Since we've had Charlton Heston and Rex Harrison practically back-to-back, surely The Agony and the Ecstasy (1965) is next!

What?! The movie cut out the "tuppence" finale from With a Little Bit of Luck?!?!?! I demand a refund! :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmmOTfRgNvk&t=200s

As jdj mentioned, Julie Andrews originated the role of Eliza on Broadway. Jack Warner "replacing" her with Audrey Hepburn was controversial.* Andrews used the spare time she now had to film Mary Poppins**. My Fair Lady won most Oscars, but best actress went to ... Julie Andrews. (Hepburn did not even earn a nomination.) Being a very polite lady, Andrews made sure to thank Warner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeBCcfwWpug :-) * Perhaps Andrews' cockney accent would have met with Clarence's approval. :-) ** Alongside Dick Van Dyke. Oh dear. Poor Clarence! :-) :-) :-)

Just watched the edit and I have thoughts. 1) Audrey's cockney accent in the opening scene - my ears actually bled. 2) Time index 3:21 - Exactly how long has Willem Dafoe been acting?? 3) I love how Cassie has a private little battle with Higgins in this film. All the way from "I want him to have his turning point", through "Oh, I'm gonna punch him in the face", and all the way to "I'll kill him." 4) Seems like they were suggesting there would be some kind of romance at the end, but Higgins seems too rigidly proper for all that. "Eliza," he would say. "Please leave the room so I can maah-sturbate like a gentleman." A spiffing watch, though.

The Goodbye Girl starring Marsha Mason and Richard Dreyfuss he won an oscar for that great romcom film

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Ahh! Musicals. Next Up : "The Court Jester" :-)

I’ve voted for this in every poll. So glad we’re finally getting to see you get so appalled at the awfulness of Henry Higgins!

I think she retired from Acting Early but did alot of Humanity Work in Africa. She was Beautifull but so Skinny.

Will be interesting to see how this film strikes me in edited form with Cassie as an added sweetener. I tried to watch the whole thing for the first time a few months ago and had to give up after 30 minutes. Audrey's faux cockney accent made me want to go full Michael Madsen on my own ears.

Probably already been said in the comments, but - without wanting to shatter illusions - it's not Audrey singing. Her singing was dubbed by American singer, Marni Nixon (who also dubbed Natalie Wood's singing in West Side Story).

The ambiguous ending to the movie is confusing, especially after Eliza previously explains that Freddy is in love with her (and that she would be happy to marry him). In recent productions of the stage show and particularly the 2018 Broadway revival of My Fair Lady, during the final scene when Higgins demands his slippers, Eliza walks away from him as the music plays her out and the lights dim. This provides a clearer ending to the story and a cleaer picture as to how Eliza views her relationship with Higgins. Higgins's treatment of Eliza is detestable throughout the entirety of the story and by having Eliza walk away from Higgins in the final scene, it completes her story arc from helpless flower girl to confident woman in control of her own life. It's too bad that this staging wasn't used as the movie's ending.

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Audrey's hat game was STRONG in this one. Respect to the costume designer. Would imagine they were nominated that year.

You have to forgive Higgins a little. He had never felt love for anyone. He finally realized he had grown accustomed to her in a way for would be there forever. He tried to pretend he didn't need her but he couldn't be without her. Her singing was done by another actress. I don't remember the name.

I highly recommend watching this while you're in the afterglow of My Fair Lady - 96 minutes well spent: https://archive.org/details/pygmalionvideoqualityupgrade

So now does Cassie's phonetic education begin in Received Pronunciation ("posh" British 😆)

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This is my first time commenting here, but I have to say this is considered a major classic

Since a major plot device in this film involves dialect coaching, I feel it relevant to note that while we may pronounce "Shaw" and "saw" and "law" with a more open mouth, in the Commonwealth most words ending in "-aw" tend to favour a sound like "Shore" or "sore" or "lore" only without quite completing the "r" sound. We'll say "draw-ing" where they'll say "drore-ing". Another interesting quirk of British pronunciation is when a previous word ends with the same vowel sound as the beginning of the immediately following word -- you'll hear a bit of an "r" sound there too, to let people know that one word has ended and the other begun, most commonly with words that end and then begin with "a".

In the original play this is based on, Shaw's Pygmalion, she ends up marrying Freddy. But that isn't actually shown on stage; it's just written into the script as an epilogue. In the 1938 movie version of the play (an excellent film btw that's just as entertaining as this one) the ending is ambiguous as it is here. It might be the greatest play ever written that doesn't have a proper ending; for over a century the "ending" of this play is exactly what Cassie does at the end of this video, each audience member projecting onto it what they want. While Audrey Hepburn is great of course, Julie Andrews originated this role on Broadway and did her own singing; this is really her role, and while it's sad that she didn't get to do Eliza on film, her "consolation prize" was Mary Poppins, so I guess everything turned out all right. The singer you hear is the great Marni Nixon, whom I got to meet and hear perform, a wonderful artist in her own right; while her career was mainly on the concert and opera stages and on film soundtracks, her one on-screen role was as Sister Sophia in The Sound of Music.

51:45 "You brazen hussy!" What he's denounced her as to diminish her, she could take as empowerment and run with it, I think. He made her that, and now he can't take it back.

We say "flower girl" they say "flahr gull"

"ex-ahs-perating"

41:42 I remember when I saw this once as a young lad, I had the impression that her emotional trauma had compelled her to deliberately revert to her original accent to spite Higgins in her privacy.

This is, practically speaking, a tale as old as time. It’s a re-telling of the Greek ‘Pygmalion.’ ‘Pretty Woman’ is both a re-telling and homage to this. It’s about the artist loving his creation more than anything else. In ‘Pygmalion’ it tells the story of a very skilled sculptor who carves a statue out of Greek marble. He’s prepared to spend the remainder of his days worshipping his creation. The gods took pity on him and brought his creation to life

The Music Man.🙏 You'll love that one!

"Entr'acte" (between acts -- pronounced "on-tract")

34:02 Ah, but how would she look in a soldier's uniform? In our day even an Army woman can have her "staircase moment" in a set of Dress Blues or even ACUs (Advanced Camouflage Utilitys)

Ah, one can be taught to enunciate with culture, but it takes a bit more to teach the vocabulary and the "culture" of the culture haha 😆

23:24 The movie you're curious about here is "The Music Man" with Gene Kelly and Debbie Reynolds (mother of Carrie "Leia Skywalker" Fisher. Gone the very day after her own daughter, the poor dear.)

Try Oklahoma or The Music Man if you want musicals with the ending you like. Both are classics.

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A "blackguard" is an archaic British pejorative.

I find all these varied British accents to be most fascinating, at times amusing, and from the voice of a woman, very enchanting...

A great film. Hope you watch "Funny Face". One of my favorite musicals. Also, stars Fred Astaire. A legend.

4:53 "Tike me fourra full" Nice London accent, Cassie, you have a good ear!

One of my favorite musicals. A musical remake of an earlier film' Pygmilian" written by, George Bernard Shaw

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Haha, we say "Cambridge", they say "Came-bridge"...

This is another film that loses a bit in translation—in this case, from Shaw's play—because of context. First, the significant age difference: Shaw didn't begin his writing career until he was almost 50. So the idea of the significantly older man paired with a younger woman was in part his own fantasy, and then experience as he became more famous and successful and younger women threw themselves at him. However, this older man-younger woman pairing was also a very real and accepted component of the upper-class Victorian lifestyle in marriages and mistresses. Shaw, while seen as a "modern" thinker (and a not-so-closeted Marxist), was also very much a Victorian and a snob. And England remained, until after WWII, very much a hard-class/station society. That society was deeply intertwined with some very different, widespread male-female relationships, especially in marriage. The predominant one:: - Strategic Marriages, which were often between members of two noble families, or, in the latter half of the 19th Century, a member of a family with great title but not the money to match it with a respectable millionaire-type (Hello Downton Abbey). In these unions, "growing into love" rather than falling in love was expected to happen. And if it didn't, the assumption was that discreet adultery would take place, even though the essential components of marriage, including social support of the spouse and making heirs, went on with no breaks in the public façade. - Arranged Marriages, which still happened between high nobility. Again, the idea of pairing great families to create even greater (and richer and more powerful) families relied strongly on the idea of "a good match growing into love." Marriage for Love was a relatively new concept among the upper classes, though growing in acceptance, as long as one did not stray (or stray far) from one's class. The ultimate pairing of Eliza and Henry Higgins—not nobility but certainly accepted by the upper classes as one of us—is not a possibility at the beginning of the play. She is an experiment, a gutter snipe who Higgins believes he can pass off as a lady with proper training. This is Shaw's commentary on his opinion of rigid class society, the moral fabric of the upper classes, and the great comic undercurrent running through the play (and this movie). But by the end of the play and the movie, the pairing of Eliza and Henry is very much presented as a likely outcome. They are—or are on their way to—growing into love, albeit with the good professor still possessing what we would identify as a strong chauvinistic attitude toward marriage (again, Victorian thinking).

This was the movie my mum and I always watched with my grandma before she passed. Audrey is so great in this. It’s sad she didn’t get to do her own singing, but Marni Nixon did a great job in so many movies, she just had a stronger voice.

"Jus' you wait, 'enry 'iggins, jus' you wait!"

Audrey was a true angel, just like you. 👼😊