Hazbin Hotel Episode 8 Reaction (Original Music)
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Cain killed Abel, the first murder man Cain was banished Seth was son from adam and eve had after all that drama Abel with this lore would have been in heaven longer then Any other man on Earth
Also fully agree people jump the gun WAY too much with the ‘it’s bad writing because…’ when the season isn’t done. Howeverrrrr i do get it with Gravity a bit. Not because it’s in the season though. I think looking at the bigger picture it’s gonna be such a perfect lead up to her arc in the next season tbh. My problem is that they released Gravity prior to this season as a teaser, it gave the complete wrong impression and just made people mad when they didn’t get a payoff for it. I get why they did it, it’s a cool song gorgeously animated but I still think it was the wrong move and the main reason why people are pissed about Lute not playing a bigger role. The power scaling thing however is just impatient people being insufferable though. Happens in so many shows before they’re even close to done. I understand pointing out inaccuracies to theorise, but just stating it’s wrong or bad writing just because you don’t understand it yet is so fucking dumb. Im actually kinda keen to hear your takes later on in SU because we got a lot of that as well. Inaccuracies that would end up making sense later sure pissed off a lot of people 😂
I 100% didn’t like that they instantly knew Angel was mind controlled, it doesn’t make sense. Like it’s an option for SURE but he’s also literally owned by Val, he could have been coerced, forced, manipulated, mind controlled OR actually changed his mind about the hotel. I wish they took just a bit of time to explore that before deciding ‘whatever is wrong with him, we need him back this isn’t him’, therefore securing their trust in Angel. Anyway, Im like a year late to this reaction but whatever.
Danny's reaction to Abel's Breakdown felt like my inner goblin when I was watching it the first time.
Angel’s voice shattering as he says “I’m sorry” and walks away absolutely crushes me. JUSTICE FOR ANGEL. If Angel doesn’t get to stop suffering by the end of this show I WILL riot.
I think the thing I didn't like Lute's walk off because the gang was saved by the power of misogyny. Like Lute was trained to only respect the worst fucking dirt bag ever to bag dirt and so like that's the only way she'll actually listen is if she's being treated like shit by a man who doesn't respect women
*2 AM ME WROTE THIS IDK* I think the problem is definitely a lack of attention span, and not enough time spent with actual books. My favorite series ever written is the Wheel of Time. It has 14 books, each of which is at least 700 pages. And the author switches povs like Spotify shuffling your liked songs. He introduces a brand new, unique, realistic character ever page turn, which is amazing in and of itself. AND THEN HE BRINGS THEM ALL BACK! TIES EM ALL TOGETHER! MAKES THEM ALL GENUINELY RELEVANT! it's hard enough, as the reader, to remember they existed 10 books ago, let alone to be the author and map out how this guy who let them ride in his cart once is now saving villagers from monsters and wielding the One Power? Or the entire homicidal immortal village being a pivotal part of the final battle for the light against the darkness?? Phenomenal stuff So when people get upset in the first episode, or because a new character isn't immmmediately relevant, it's like, chill the F out? Ever hear of delayed gratification? Hold your goddamn ponies, and shush. Props to Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson for that cosmic level callbacking, and LETS GO VIVSY OMG. Good frickin job. Love what you're doing here, respect the dedication and hard work, and attention to detail and hype. Mwah mwah so good!! 👇comment if ur a WOT (Wheel of Time) fan👇
he's going back bc val still has his soul help
They are building up Lute to be very vengeful. Also I don't think or I hope Lilith won't be a bad guy, cause I want Luci to be happy. He has been so sad for years....
It’s a really dumb ending, but I love dumb shit
What I need for next season actually is for Cain to appear played of course by Pete Wentz, cause we cannot truly get Patrick Stump hollering the way we love and remember you need Pete in the studio actively rage baiting him
you should watch dead end paranormal park i need your pugsly recation
Good boy pentious best bit
Awesome 👍
11:00 Vox's power doesn't work on Val due to his bad eyesight. Vox takes 20 minutes just to count a few dollar bills. When Vox tried to hypnotize him, he probably just saw an undulating black and red blur through his rose tinted glasses. As for the fighting, its all about dominance. Making the other guy your prison bitch.
The reason he can't hypnotize Val is because Val is an overlord
No. It's because Val's eyesight is absolute shit. He can't even count dollar bills right in front of his face. So when Vox tries to hypnotize him, he probably just sees a weird blur.
Your magician rant made me cry laughing
When Able started singing in "Hear my Hope" me and my partner literally screamed with excitement cause we were waiting all season for Patrick to really shine. God I hope he gets his own song or at least a bigger part of a song next season
So it’s a little late and this has been out for a while but I haven’t seen any other comments about it so I wanted to throw in my opinion on the Angel/spy/hypnotized reveal thing. On the one hand I wish we had seen more of the conversation around when he came on the broadcast to see more of the group discussing the “whats wrong with him?” “Why is he doing this?” “Could he really have betrayed us?” points. But at the same time I also like the fact that they never believe he ever could have been doing it on his own they just inherently know that he’s being controlled because they believe in him that strongly which I think is sweet. But I do still wish we had seen more of the reaction so maybe someone could have not known Vox had that ability and then it could have been brought up or explained that way since a lot of his mind control is conjecture and metaphor for the old “tv rots your brain” conversations.
If people are still throwing hats in the ring to help dub songs for you I'd like to toss my name in there LOL
I think that you would love the Master of Diabolism/Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation/Modao Zushi (same show, three names lol). It's the same author as Heaven Official's Blessing but a different vibe. Honestly it's super hype plus, despite the censorship, it is canonically gay!
Okay I know this is late, And I have a ton of theories and comments to make about the show. BUT on a rewatch, you can see Lute had demon horns in season one after Vaggie got the roof to collapse on her. I believe that is HUGE foreshadowing and I'm speechless on how no one has pointed this out
Your hair looks fire
Danny's "nifty is the most powerful" theory is looking more likely now that we most likely know shes a overlord. Only overloards+ nifty could do the beam
Velvet is a doll. Specifically a dress up doll or mannequin. I think its pretty genius because of all her outfit and hair changes.
Alastors little minions arent actual sinners or demons. theyre like disposable summons he creates on the spot i believe. They most likely dont have real souls and are created from alastors power.
Some people theorize theyre voodoo dolls, the soul remnants from demons hes tortured and killed on his radio show, or quasi beings made of magic from him. They're not "help" like what vox goes around asking for. Theyre powered by himself and his power
Val is blind af danny thats why
DANNY SINCE U LOVE CARMILLA’S VOICE. PLS PLS REACT TO IN THE HEIGHTSSS
To be fair a lot of complaints with smaller/side characters I think really is just because each season is so short. Even if each season was 12 episodes instead I'm sure we would've gotten more Baxter/Lute content.
I never knew i needed to see Danny sing Fall Out boy!!!!!!!!!
Danny, your hair is unreasonably good looking this episode
Danny… ACTIVATE YOUR WINDOWS SOFTWARE
Honestly i felt hear my hope was way better than the finale song for the first season
Danny, did we forget that angel is legit owned by Val it’s ok, Just reminding you you are good lol, but that’s why he has to go back and has no choice. That’s why he choked Cherri
Day idek of my name being spelled wrong in the outro. Kacya Jones turned into Kaycie jones😔
Please react to Vox Machina along with Mighty Nein🙏
small thing. Al didn't gain a favor from Rosie. The deal was she fixed his staff in exchange for the help with the weapon. it's why the handle was a different color. went from black to white.
Agree completely with the Vaggi arc. The Vivzie bit is fucking hilarious
She did change it though. It was "Vaggie" and pronounced differently by Adam. She took off the E and reclaimed it.
Why does Danny want to kill my duck boy so bad.😅
You should check out The Mighty Nein
I love the ending for one reason: this has always been a musical about the princess of hell redeeming sinners through forgiveness and happy songs. It Starts With Sorry might actually have more call backs in the show than anything else, so this vibe is 100% what I knew I was getting into
If you get Alex Brightman, can I court Sarah?
It’s ovi a poly relationship lol
Honestly I think the ending works! These are essentially my thoughts on it; I think the whole orb thing was set up well enough. We knew that archangels could form a protective barrier around heaven using their angelic powers, and now we know that overlords have something similar in the form of overlord powers. They are able to essentially make the same protective barrier using their combined strength, surround the canon, and as it explodes inside the barrier, it uses all of its built up energy to shatter the barrier instead of destroying hell. We also essentially get shown here which overlords have enough power to do that, from small overlords like Prick, Hatchet, Nifty and Husk, to big ones like Carmilla, Zetial, and Alastor. I imagine the bigger overlords have more power to give, but every bit counted in this moment. It /is/ a pretty 'everyone holds hands' type ending, but imo I think it works because 1: The majority of overlords helping were doing so for selfish reasons, aka 'if hell blows up it takes us/me with it so I'll help prevent that', and 2: We saw everyone's motives for why they helped out. We know that Rosie wants to protect the hotel and charlie (for reasons that are a mystery to us), and Alastor uses this as leverage against her so she will fix his staff for him. I /do/ think Alastor cares somewhat about the hotel, but he also knows how to manipulate a situation to ensure he gets what he wants. So in exchange for Rosie fixing his staff, aka granting him his full restored power, he agrees to help out with the shield. Rosie joins I presume for her own mysterious reasons, and Carmilla and Zestial are just homies lol. I love that the Vees were so done with vox's shit at that point that they put their own lives above what Vox wanted them to do. I think it was also very sweet that the song represented a moment in time where we could show how strong everyone could actually be when working together for a common goal, while standing beside an angel no less, and one who just sacrificed her own body for the life of a sinner. I think this coming season is gonna set up how much of an impact Emily's sacrifice will have on hell. What I WILL say is a massive negative for this season, is the same reason I said it for the last season. It. Needed. More. Time!! And by time I mean EPISODES. Like- a whole other act, preferably. I feel like if you gave each season 12 episodes it would fix a huge portion of the issues with it, mostly involving pacing, rushed plots/arcs, and missed potential. Like, Vaggi's name change needed another episode of setup. The reveal of angel as a spy to the hotel needed an episode. Alastor deciding to quit could've used more screentime, and ofc lucifer needed more screentime as well. If they had more time they could've better setup Lucifers role in the plot, and figured out a valid reason for why he couldn't get out of his situation rather than just brushing over it. There were a lot of things that simply needed more minutes, but this is all they were given and I imagine its very stressful trying to write so much story and character into eight 25 minute episodes oof. (with some wiggle room for slightly longer episodes tbf). Also, I think aside from trauma, Angel also decided to stay with Val because he /can't/ really leave. He's still bound by his contract, and the only reason they were letting him stay at the hotel before was to be their spy. Now, they have no reason to let him return. I'm sure Val will be tightening the leash on him again now that Angels back, and I know Angels probably too scared about what the Vees could make him do at this point. All I know is that season 3 is gonna be a big season for angel, based on some tweets from Viv! Also a big season for Lilith, Alastor, Lucifer, and I assume more screentime for Lute and other big players.
Hey Danny please react to Vampire Knight
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Understated in the recent FoB resurgence has been their most recent album, So Much for Stardust, which is like a more orchestral version of their original hits and it absolutely SLAPS
I find the fallout boy fan boying particularly funny because I was recently reintroduced to uma therman and I was like “ damn this some good shit” so relatable Danny relatable
Anyone else think it's kinda screwed up that Abel refers to Cain as the "braver son" when that was the dude who caved his skull in with a rock because God wasn't into vegetarianism?
Adam is an asshole so he defintely praised Cain for committing the first murder, and bullied Abel for being the first to get murdured.
I feel like the Lute commentary is valid ( solely my opinion and not to the extreme extent people take it ) I absolutely loved gravity but I feel like it could’ve hit so much harder if we saw her being completely blocked this whole season and then her snapping and actually acting on what the lyrics say instead of having it in episode two and nothing happing with her character. In this case it makes her words feel empty which really sucks because from her perspective and standpoint they’re really powerful it’s just not communicated as well as it could’ve been which makes it fall flat leading to the valid criticism from people who like her character/find her really interesting and wanted more for her character as a whole
I think the problem with the whole Lute thing that people have, and I had to figure this out too, but people see Gravity as a revenge song and are mad when that revenge doesn't happen, but in reality Gravity is a crash out song. Lute just had the person she loved/respected the most die in front of her, none of the other angels are taking it seriously, one of the people who was part of the reason Adam got killed is being accepted into heaven when in Lute's mind he did something wrong and doesn't deserve to be there, Lute sees everything being done or not being done as a complete injustice and that's why she sings Gravity. It's more like when someone is an asshole to you in real life and you think things like "i hope you get fired" or "I hope you get hit by a car", which is basically what Lute's doing to a certain extent but maybe with more intent behind it. But Lute holds authority/orders above everything else that until she gets rid of that hang up she won't get her revenge, I mean she literally had to hallucinate Adam to tell her what to do because she's always used to taking orders. That's also why she listens to Sera and Abel even if she thinks they're wrong or she doesn't respect them.
You got games on yo face?
Dude I love that you loved Charlie this season, so many people who hate on her don't understand why she acts the way she does. As the daughter of Lucifer, she is ALSO the sin of pride! She celebrates and starts talking early this episode cuz she's SURE she'll win, same with when she invited the Vs over. She doesn't consider the fact that she could lose or be taken advantage of, and she really struggles to say an authentic sorry. I think it's such an interesting part of her character and they really highlighted it this season
I think it's a certain amount pride but also mostly that she's sheltered royalty and is extremely naive, gullible and overly trusting because of it. She always expects the best out of people/situations and when people are not as nice as she is she can't comprehend it. It takes her a while to learn that everybody grew up in different circumstances and thus have different morals because of it and that's why every time she runs into a new way that someone acts it takes her a while to grasp because she's not used to it. She hasn't been exposed this variety of people until recently, and when she was growing up people were probably on their best behaviour around her because she's the princess of hell.
I'm always a sucker for a "we are the world" song when the story is built well. I cried at the finale of Carol and Tuesday for that exact reason 🥲
The thing about the cheesy ending is it fits the show. We're watching a show about musical demons in hell. But from writing perspective they showed that when they NEED to all of hell can come together. They got all 12 overlords to work in unison to fix a problem.
Angels turning on cherry had nothing to do with the brain washing from vox and was because Valentino gave him a command activating his contract, cause Val owns his soul. Same way that Alastor remotely had nifty go get husk and then bring both of them to the fight with the vs
I don't think Alastor called Niffty at all, just Niffty is fond of Alastor so when she saw him in trouble she ran to his aide, getting Husk on the way. Also I'm pretty sure Val only can command Angel when he's at the studio, which I guess that apartment counts as part of.
I didnt really like the cheesy ass ending to this season at first, I was watching Vox's uprising and calling himself the Fuhrur hoping it would be building up to season 3 being a war arc between heaven and hell, exacerbating charlie's struggle to prove redemption as something sinners deserve that much more. But I think depending on how season 3 handles it, this ending could work out really well with charlie using this as a point to prove that even the overlords, some of hell's most evil residents, have good in them and are worth redemption, and I think Lilith's introduction will add a very interesting dynamic to all this whether she supports it or not.
Im pretty sure the reason why Vox's powers didn't work on Val was because he's known to have bad eye sight, remember? Angel on season 1 said he did and Husk brings it up in the fight with him and Chery vs Val
It’s because he’s a moth.
They need to have a cameo of Danny Motta in the human world at some point reacting to seeing a sinner or demon or something, and have him be voiced by Alex Brightman.
Yeah some of the arcs fizzing out is a disappointment. It feels plotwise that 'Gravity' should have really happened next season though listening to the soundtrack it makes sense when you hear the finale.
I too cried at sad Husk
Congratulations Danny and Alex!!!! 😂
Danny, you're commenting on every ones fits and hair, but I'm loving your little bun. Icon. It looks very good on you. :)
Danny = Cherry Bomb confirmed??
I love the ending because I think it really wraps up Charlie's arc with the hotel neatly. Like, the hotel is built, people are checking in, people want to be redeemed, they know it's possible now, so her original mission is complete. That leaves season 3 open to really explore the overlords (WHICH I THINK NIFTY IS ONE OF), Lucifer's psyche, Alastor's power and the vacuum Vox left behind. Having that 'happy ending' leaves open a lot of space for really cool dark shit to hit the fan!!
Nifty is clearly as powerful as an overlord. She defeats Velvette, and she has her own beam for "Hear My Hope." I wonder if killing Adam powered her up.
I will say I kinda liked the ending but it did feel kinda rushed like it was just thrown together last minute “oh solve this problem” and “finish that arc”
I feel like even just 1 more episode would help it feel less rushed.
Danny to be fair you make a good point about the legion of minions alastor used but we are comparing that to a multi ton flying robotic killer shark 🤣
The end is cringe, but it's good cringe.
HEY DANNY, Are you gonna react to Hazbin on Broadway?
Danny going off on centuries being Fallout's top song gives me such life! Literally love every single other song on the phoenix album aside from "my songs know what you did in the dark", the fact that centuries is even above that is soooo bad lol
The ending is so cheesy and “power of friendship” bs but the song does scratch my brain with those harmonies
Danny this hair looks damn good on you just btw. The little half back, WITH the whispies? Hot 👍
So, I know Danny jokes about not suggesting anymore musicals but has anyone told him about the fact that Jeremy Jordan(Lucifer) was in the American version of Death Note the Musical? I don’t think it ever actually got any time on stage in America but they definitely recorded an album for it lol 😂
I was genuinely wondering if I should recommend that!!!!!
I love this ending!! It's good to just have fun with things.
oh, poor charlie got hit by the flanderization beam this season.
Anyone else think Danny is slowly turning into Odysseus with the hair?
Soon he'll look like Critikal
I think if they'd have played that whole mind controlled friend that you don't know is mind controlled trope it would've been shit on a lot given Vox doesn't even try to hide his mind controlling ability, plus its ANGEL DUST, my immediate thought on their situation would also be "he's gotta be getting mind controlled no other possibility" (with or without the knowledge of the ability Vox has)
Patrick stump as abel is my favorite part of this season and it’s lowkey the only reason I even watched it, I watched season 1 as it came out, but it didn’t really hook me, but season 2 I think was miles better (even if I prefer a lot of season 1’s songs). Suffice to say I am hyped for when season 3 comes out and solely for the plot this time 💯
Danny not understanding the mechanics of the ending is pretty funny. the forcefield thing is what sera did with the other archangels to protect heaven earlier in the season and the confirmation that nifty is an overlord is gonna be cool when he figures it out
Come here support a bit 🙏🏻
Husk use to be an overloard. All of the overloards are able to contribute :)
I don't see anyone saying it, so I will. The shield they made around the bomb is literally the same thing Sera and the angels did when they locked down Heaven. It's all the Overlords and former Overlords choosing to survive together instead of die alone. Its them channeling their power to contain the explosion instead of trying in vain to escape it.
So Cherri for sure sent Sir Pentious nudes right?
Oh definitely
Holy shit I will die if Danny reacts to the Mighty Nein. I will not be able to contain that level of crossover joy.
Hey Danny, I'm sure this comment is already in here but Angel actually doesn't have a choice, since his soul belongs to Val (his manager) he has to do anything and everything Val tells him too. Just like how Charlie HAD to say "vox is the strongest sinner" because it was Alastor's favor being cashed in and that's what he told her to say. That's also why when Val said "Angel, baby, some help here" Angel went into fight mode, not because he was hypnotized but because Val gave him an order.
This, and arguably it may not have been the blow to the neck that "snapped Angel out of it"- but rather the fact that Husk had to release Val to do so, and thus Angel had "helped" release Val as he had been told. So there's no way of TRULY knowing if Angel regained control, or simply completed his task.
I love grandiose, hopeful musical numbers that bring all the cast together to sing. I like my musical as heartfelt and cheesy as they are suppose be.
I really love the ending. I'm kind of sick of adult cartoons being cynical and fucked all the time. I want a happy ending. I want cheesy musical numbers that save the day and sway people's hearts. Not all the time because that'd be a different show, but this show is ultimately about improving through community. I like seeing Mr. "I'm irredeemable and not worth saving" Husk being the first to step up and help Charlie and Emily out of no selfish reason. I like seeing Valentino stop being a piece of shit long enough to stop and at least try to do something. I like seeing Carmilla watch an angel risk her life to save Sinners and have her mind changed. I personally do have quite a few issues with this season, one of which being the lack of scale and the unclear rules of the power system and hierarchy, as well as the pacing and character use, (why establish powers Lucifer DOES have and then just not use them??) but ultimately I watch tv to fall in love with characters and feel something when things go right and wrong. And I just so happen to really want things to go right for them lol So yeah, I love the ending. Great reaction as always! Patrick Stump didn't disappoint! Can't wait for what comes next! <3
I also love that there IS the selfishness aspect of Hell coming into effect where they do it just to save their own asses so they can continue their lives in the ensuing days/months/years. I've seen a lot of people citing the whole Carebears thing but like, have y'all SEEN Charlie?!? If this was Earth and it was going to blow up and powers could save it, you really think stone cold killers would be all, "Yeah just let it blow up I ain't using my power to help"? People are inherently selfish so it really fits that Hell would team with a few angels to save themselves just to be selfish and get back at Heaven at a later date.
I dig the ending honestly. So many people are yelling about "it's Hell, why would they work together?" Seemingly forgetting that the cannon would have exploded and killed them all. This is the literal goal of Lilith, bring Hell together with song. Hell has never been more united, and that should absolutely scare the shit out of heaven.
Literally! They stopped trying to evacuate people because there wasn’t a way to escape the blast radius in time. They were all 100% going to die if it exploded. It reminds me of that one moment from Guardians of the Galaxy: “Why do you want to save the Galaxy?” “Because I live here, asshole. Any more stupid questions?” If it comes down to ‘die’ or ‘work together just once, just for today’ (like the lyrics literally spell out) most people will reluctantly help.
danny : i wanted them to kill luci! lucifer being a deadass immortal :
What really gets me is that reason why angel doesnt trust himself isn't because he was hypnotised by vox (I mean it's like a bit of it) but is instead because whatever deal he has with val means he HAS to do what ever he says. Like he wasn't hypnotised when he choked cherry. He just did it because val Asked for help. Not even ordered just like asked for it. That's why it weighs so heavily on Angel because everything he does for val he chose to do a long time ago when he gave up his soul. My little huskerdust heart is breaking for them
“There it is. THAT’S why everyone has been crying in my DMs for the last week… I’m not crying my eyes are itchy.” Basically, yeah! And now I’m screaming into the void on Bluesky with fellow Huskerdust fans because this is where we’re being left until next season - Angel not trusting anyone, especially not himself, and running back to Val because he can take what Val dishes out but he can’t take hurting his friends. Until season three that is our reality. And I just… P A I N. I’m in P A I N.
I am a sucker for uplifting and hopeful songs and moments so I absolutely loved the ending. But I do understand people's criticisms and it being "we won through the power of friendship"
I don't like the ending it was fine but I wanted the war in heaven.
Not gonna lie, I feel very valid after watching Danny go “oh Husk! Baby! I don’t like sad Husk!” Cause Keith David making his voice crack like that was NOT FAIR!
The ending was dumb and cheesy and I loved every second of it
Show some love here too please
I thought the ending did everything it needed to do. Them figuring out that Angel was hypnotized works for me because of the ending: Angel sold his soul and resigns himself to being irredeemable. We could have had an entire arc of them figuring it out and putting it together, but it makes it harder to (within the span of the time frame we are working with) land _this_. They could have carried it between seasons, but having this punch land at the end somewhat counterbalances the almost ridiculous sweetness of the Hell Coming Together™ arc and doesn't add to the Ridiculous Number of Things™ carrying between seasons. He can't "just quit" because he's under contract. It also confirmed something interesting, if not important: the only people contributing their power were those who were essentially archangels in power (Emily, Charlie), overlords of hell (Carmilla, Rosie, etc), or _former_ overlords of hell (Husk), …and Niffty. Which tells us that Niffty is very likely also a former overlord, or at least someone in that power class. Both she and Husk are in service to Alastor, and we know Husk is already, and for certain Baxter and Cherri weren't contributing anything but joining hands. I did not like Vaggi dropping the "e" and calling it a day, which I agree with you: it felt like a wasted opportunity to do… almost literally anything else. There were also a lot of little things that I didn't feel quite went the way I would have wanted them to. But overall: I thought it _worked_. The arcs with Alastor are _brilliant_ and beyond well written from beginning to end (it constantly felt to me like Alastor was taking calculated risks, not knowing quite sure _how or when_ things would pan out, but certain in his read on the situation and the people in it), the scene between Abel and Lute gives Lute an arc into defying _heaven_ rather than just hating _hell_, Charlie gets her Care Bear Stare moment which sets us up nicely for whatever Lute is going to do and however Lilith is going to shake things up, and Angel's arc is devastating and hard to watch.
The song bit was also paralleling Charlie next to Lilith, who also empowered and united the denizens of hell specifically through song, so there's some sort of power element to this ending song.
I agree sooo much about Baxter and Lute is introduced now with their payout being in a later season. Its almost like they did that same thing with Vox and the Vees from S1 into S2
When you fangirled over Patrick last episode I got so excited for your reaction to this one, was not let down. All I’ve truly learned from this show is that I actually just want another OG FOB style album lmao
I think Valentino has angels soul by contract right?
I personally like that they immediately knew Angel must’ve been hypnotized because it shows how much they trust that Angel wouldn’t actually turn on the hotel willingly and also praise the V’s like that unless the V’s did something.
THE HAIR EATS THIS WHOLE VID DANNY YOU ATE THAT SHIT UP
The way I was so excited for you to react to Abel’s song and your reaction was everything and more. Your reactions make my day, Danny!!
Abel is so awesome. Loved that song.
Vox can’t hypnotize Val because his eyes are shit. I always understood vox’s powers as not hypnotizing directly, but influencing. Just that extra bit of pressure to believe what he says. It seems he can also straight up hypnotize one person (like angel) if it done a lot in small doses. I don’t think he can immediately have slaves. I think he can just get in peoples head like an ear worm type of thing.
Vox hypnotizing them in the end I think is because it shows that he believes Charlie will be able to rip them out of his “Cult”. Just like when he was alive he used his charisma to rise he did the same thing but when confronted with the possibility of losing control he forces it
Me reacting to Danny reaction: "just give it a minute!"
Just real quick- It was overlords, Charlie, and Em doing the magic thing. So this does confirm Nifty is/was an overlord.
I had to come back cause everyone else's reaction to Abels song is so unsatisfying Danny really just vocalised how much I loved it
Hear me out, Vaggi kills Lucifer to stop the cannon and kill. Right AFTER Charlie stops the cannon with Carmilla and they have to deal with that next season. She was just trying to save Charlie who may now be an orphan for no reason.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Vox just suddenly deciding to hypnotize hell is weird, it just doesn't make sense. Honestly I feel like they could have scrapped the hypnotism thing
The magic shield established powers from heaven don't save the "I do believe in fairys" ass ending for me. I love this show and I love musicals but this ending felt like a cheap exit for a big problem.
Imagine if lute is the antagonist of season 4 there is peace between hell and heaven so she tries to lead a revolution against heaven like Lucifer did
I was so disappointed that they saved the day with unexplained nonsense magic instead of ANY already established powers
It's not nonsense its the personalised power of each of the overlords
Just a minute or two talk explaining why they think he's mind controlled would of been nice, and Baxter having just a but more focus time to make the baby gave turn wounds helped. Though still overall liked the season and final episode
Not every sinner can do that magical thing at the end just the overlords..which confirms that Nifty was/is an overlord too who probably like Husk made a deal with Alastor.
I literally did a 180 on Abel’s character because of less than a minute of fallout boy song XD
I thought the ending worked cause it is the same idea that heaven did to make a barrier
I wonder if Danny would like Something Rotten with Christian Borle. I wish it was recorded like Hamilton on Disney was.
bro got put into check with alex, its your move Danny how you getting out of this check
Just gonna say, really appreciate your Fallout Boy arc in this video. Fallout Boy has been a classic for me since I was in school, and I agree with your favorite songs over Centuries. I can't stop listening to Abel's solo in the song as well! Great video as always, hope you're doing well!
1) Danny literally pointed out that Val couldn't be mind controlled but didn't put 2 and 2 together it's cause his eyes are s***. 2) The fact Danny caught on to the Baxstabber ship pretty quickly. 3) Danny missed the fact that the "Care Bear powers" are cause they're overlords, it's a power specific to them and it's also a reveal that Nifty is technically an overlord (Husk already mentioned he was one but not Nifty)
Honestly now I just want to see Danny review the FOB MANIA album 😂
Danny your hair looks so fire dude
Ok funniest thing ive ever watched was danny randomly belting out fallout boy I was not ready for that
My main opinion is, if they had given "Gravity" to Lute here in the end episode it would feel so much bigger, and worry inducing for season 3.
I’ve heard that Alastor is gonna be one of the main antagonists of season 3
Vox can't hypnotize Val, because Val has such bad eye sight 🤣
Angel still doesn’t have a choice though, I don’t think he was hypnotized when he had his hands around Cheri’s neck. It has more to do with Val owning his soul. He literally can’t go up against him. Also yes Abel’s song did slap so hard! Absolutely love fall out boy and can’t wait to hear more Patrick Stump! 🥰 Btw love the long hair! Got a little half up, half down man bun going on. ❤️
I start crying at 'i didn't have a choice when I had my hands around your neck ' 😭
Not gonna lie, I think the reason Lute had her song was to show the Adam obsession and this season has been just setting Abel up to disappoint her so badly that she seeks out Cain in hell next season
Assuming Vivs knows biblical lore- she could also go to earth; Cain being immortal is a popular interpretation of his punishment for killing able
Love the “oh yes Abel is going to save the day” 60 seconds later “POP OFF KING FALLOUT BOY IS THE SH*T.”
You mentioned several potential problems people might have with the ending, and I'm sad to say ALL of them apply to me 😭 I hate that Lute just got sad and nope'd away after all the hype we got from Gravity. (Though I grant you that she will probably return next season, I wish they had come up with a more believable reason. AND I am pissed we missed their whole fight to stay with least-favorite-character-Abel.) I hated the weird "everyone's powers combined can get rid of the threat" deus ex machina. And I also hate that literally the only character walking away from this worse off is my baby, my beloved son Angeldust. My script doctor would be that Lute actually does kill Vaggi, which satisfies her blood lust (for now) and drives a wedge between Charlie and Heaven, which might make her mom (whose allegiances we aren't sure about) an even more interesting character to bring in. AND THEN beginning of next season or something, we find out that Vaggi has *actually* become a fallen angel, made sinner for her execution days that she hasn't yet technically atoned for. This would be a good way to send Charlie on an emotional/"growing up" arc without nixing one of your high-profile voice actors, lol. PLUS this would set up a potential Adam return as a sinner, which would bring Lute back into the fold and potentially continue her villain arc or wrap everything up, depending on where you want to go from there.
The cheesy care bear ending would be better for me to digest if like lute did anything this season or if they had revealed what alastor was supposed to do for Rosie in his end of the deal they had or like you had said if they went into the whole angel dust being mind controlled thing
i love all of danny’s ideas for why vox can’t hypnotize val… when it’s just because val can’t see shit 😂😂
Yo is it actually? I always thought it was because he already had mind control-y powers. Like how venomous snakes cant be poisoned 🤔 but that would be so fucking funny
I'm happy you agree that the Care Bear ending is kinda bullshit. And I'm happy that you're able to enjoy it despite that, it bothers me probably more than it should XD Well, the Care Bear ending and many other plot holes and writing problems, but the ending most of all Also, Angel went back to Val yes, because of trauma and self-loathing and all kinds of shit, but also because Val owns his soul. We don't know what exactly that means, but I can only imagine the things Val could do to Angel because of it, so he doesn't have many choices
Husk and Nifty got to keep their overlord powers when alastor took their souls, and overlords have these powers based on how many souls they have which is why normal sinners dont have any powers
Im surprised no one else has said this, but the "power of friendship" ending isn't really entirely a power of friendship ending... Like, it is for the members of the hotel + emily, but that's it. The overlords were purely doing it out of pure necessity. If they didn't help, they all would have double died. No coming back from that. It's more to highlight the fact that it is entirely possible for Hell to come together for the greater good, even if for purely selfish reasons (ie: their survival). The powers were random (i even went like "since when could they do this"), however, a lot of shows randomly pull out powers like that from nowhere 😭. Personally, it doesn't bother me that much. Especially since only the overlords were using their magic, because only the overlords have magic. It took watching it back to realize Vaggi, Angel and Cherri weren't helping. But yeah... NOT a power of friendship ending but a demonstration of survival is how I saw the ending
Agreed. It IS cheesy but it also demonstrates Sir Pentious' point in "Live to Live". Humans do a lot of things when they're scared, even join hands and sing kumbaya. Besides, cheese is delicious.
What happened to your hair? You are in need of a hair cut my dude!
Don't u dare, let it GROWWW
Had the same reaction to Abel's solo. Crack indeed
Vaggies name did change. Dropped the e at the end Vaggi
Did people really not understand that Alastor was playing a long con??? He had an entire monologue RIGHT before the fight where he talked about needing a plan to get out of this predicament with Rosie 😭 Like literally had a lightbulb moment and then the very next scene he "got caught" by Vox 😭
Look. People also believed Alastor's last name was "Altruist" and Vox's was "Populi." You're asking for a lot for them to realize it was all his plan from the moment he was sitting on Susan's memorial bench.
Also yes I loved this ending. Cheesey? Well I love me some gouda and waaaay ahead of you on Mighty Nein. Thanks for sharing my fixations lmao
Femiroli is hilarious
Danny i think you should activate windows
There’s a moment this season where Velvette’s head casually turns all the way around. I remember being surprised Danny didn’t remark on it but that was just one doll clue.
Her joints are visible in a lot of shots too, any time her outfit isn't covering them
I agree that after such a banger of a song from Lute that she felt underutilized, but I'm blaming that predominantly on the fact that they had to squeeze everything into 8 episodes. When I saw that Emily, Charlie, and the demon overlords were Care Bear Staring the giant weapon, I was like, "OH MY GOD. THE CARE BEAR STARE." It was a delight to see and initially funny to me, and then I thought, "wait. We're...really doing the Care Bear Stare? Ah. Okay? I really wouldn't expect it from this adult comedy-centric show, but okay." It was a nostalgic call-back to me, and it was nice to see something sincere in the forest of sarcasm, one-liners, and r18 jokes HH usually do (which I also enjoy; the sincerity was just nice to see). It makes sense to me that it happened this way since Emily instigated it (and I'd totally believe that Emily would try to solve a problem that way, and no one else had any other plan, so why not join her?). I believe that Emily got the idea of shielding/containing the weapon with the same power that Sera and the other high angels (the seven virtues, I'm assuming) used when they used their Care Bear Stares to build that shield around Heaven. It was another blink-and-you-miss-it build-ups which is such a shame. I think a lot of HH's "problems" would be solved if they had some more episodes for wiggle room.
Omg you are so right
I feel like it is important to note the magic thing isn't every Hellizen: it's hellborn, heavenmade, and Overlords (current and former). Angel and Cherri don't have the magics. (Which leads to the ultimate question: why does *Niffty*??) Also, personally, I liked the bomb ending, it was cheesy and musical and a fantastic example of words just bouncing off of Brainwashing/propaganda, but actions actually cutting through. (And it exploding into a lil halo like doing this redeemed all of hell, if only for a moment, got me. It's blatant emotional manipulation on the show's part, but idc, it still totally got me.)
I have to say that I enjoyed the finale, and the whole season. Besides the songs being amazing, this season gave me goosebumps so many times throughout as well
I absolutely loved the care bear ending !! I can't tell you why I can't tell you why it worked,but it did for me lol
He also like, literally can't kill Charlie, Danny you do realize lucifer and his family are stronger than the rest of hell right? Charlie is just very peaceful so she almost never enforces that power
Lucifer literally got detained by a looney toons trap…
Also with the angel things I think its more the fact that Val Owen's his soul a d made him do it and can make him do anything he wants. Rather then the hypnotisam
so in regards to how they do the whole carebear/mlp thing at the end if I had to guess the way they are going to spin it is that it's a power of Charlie's from Lilith bc iirc empowering others with her song was like her main thing and the basis for her original uprising but that might have been from the no longer canon pilot
I think its just overlord level and above people putting their magic into a shield.....and the song is just a sing
Husky and nifty used to be overlords thats why they can shoot the power streams
I don't think they suddenly knew he was being mind controlled since Cherry was there and has dealt with the Vs. Charlie asks why he would say that stuff and it's not a secret that Vox can mind control people.
Okay completely unrelated to the video but I love your hair like this you look amazing
I get the minion thing however they were from his own power not external like the shark
I'll be real, I'm glad we didn't get a protracted questioning of Angel's hypnotism. It would have been really easy for them to spend the whole episode with the cast questioning if Angel actually meant it. But instead we got a confirmation that the hotel crew know their friend better than that and know he wouldn't say stuff like that if he had another choice. It reinforced Angel's bond with the rest of the cast and avoided a pretty common plot. I dunno, I'm just glad I didn't have to sit through yet another instance of "Oh no! Our friend who's been nothing but supportive of our mission is saying completely out of character stuff and siding with the people that made them wildly uncomfortable/actively hurt them! Clearly they never cared about us at all!" I like when storylines acknowledge the bonds between their characters
Niffty is literally John Silksong (Hornet) and she's most definitely a secret or former Overlord lmao
Aside from the slight spelling change it’s about Vaggi choosing her name rather than accepting what Adam gave her, she’s made it her own. It’s also why none of the others worked when she tried them: she had attachment to the name, just not that version and its origins.
The thing with lute is that her breakdown and rebellion and madness vizi said she wants it to be a build up to more that this was just a slight introduction to it.
I personally think centuries is Fall Out Boys weakest song and the fact that it is the top on Spotify is a crime.
I agree this pacing was wackthe whole thing went so quick they def should have released 1 ep/week
as far as Charlie instantly knowing that Angel was brainwashed, i kinda looked at that as Charlie *assuming* he was brainwashed, because the alternative is thinking he willingly betrayed them, and she wouldn't wanna accept that
Honestly so valid. She couldn’t believe VOX was being disingenuous and conniving when he clearly was. Of course she wouldn’t believe Angel would betray them. That’s what makes Charlie Charlie, assuming the best of people.
I think you were approaching the start wrong, regarding Charlie & Co knowing Angel is mind controlled. I would instead look at it as them being unable to believe any other truth. He must be mind controlled because the Angel Dust they know couldn't possibly do such a thing. So I think it was more a denial of other options as opposed to knowing the truth.
I asked the exact same thing at the start of the episode lmao
To be fair they never really showed signs or angel Turing away from the hotel just time where he was upset with Charlie but not the hotel as a whole so I can see why she came to the conclusion of mind control
WHY DIDNT VAGGI GO WITH VAGATHA! I was rooting for Vagatha the WHOLE SEASON. Also, WHY DIDNT WE GET MORE ABLE SINGING.
I’m waiting for the Danny X Alex fics
Definitely not my top season idk they did lucifer dirty this season like Charlie never apologize and no one even really cared when he almost kinda died in the VOX tech weapon. Idk is it just me or did our boy Lu get the short stick?
I treat this show pretty differently purely becuase I know going into it vivzie woulda preferred to have 3 or 4 more episodes a season than we get so the arcs get kinda spread out differently.
Danny: "Everyone eats!" ~ a few moments later ~ Danny: "Huh?..." 🥺
18:00 so sinners can still die like normal they just "respawn" in a way because of the whole eternal punishment thing. they only perma-die through angelic weapons or means
I'll be honest, you took her hair getting burned off a lot better than I thought you would. Lol
I was so excited to see you react to Abel's part in the final song! I knew you would love it the second I heard it
wait... how exactly did you think Velvette was able to pull off each and every infuriating costume change if not for the fact that she is a doll? But seriously though, yea she has always been a doll and it really makes sense for her character and business in hell
also also, pretty sure it isn't canonically confirmed but the theory is that the one's who are able to use the flowy power at the end are super strong, i.e. Charlie daughter of Lucifer fallen angel and king of hell, or Emily, a seraphim, or they are Overlords. This means that a lot of people are saying this is confirmation that Niffty is or was an Overlord, and has made soul deals for power before, she is the only one other than the above mentioned that can do this and hasn't been confirmed an Overlord, like Alastor or the Vees, or even Husk, pretty cool. This theory is especially supported by how Cherry, Angel and Baxter, three characters who have not canonically become Overlords, just support the team by singing and holding their hands instead of joining in.
so glad you were also confused by velvet being a doll
does this mean val died in a moth related way??
He choked on a moth, I'm guessing. It's stupid enough lmao
Killing off Lucifer wouldn’t change the political landscape all that much though since it’s well established that he’s purposefully ignorant of the political climate and all the goings on in hell.
Loved this, loved this, loved this💜💜💜💜
yeah it's actually good writing to plant seeds for later lol idk why ppl are mad about that
completely unrelated but I love the cute lil half up hairstyle you got going on, it makes you look like a fantasy character <3
Same
Sorry Danny, I couldn't pay attention to the first half of this video because I was distracted by your lush hair and updo (please for the love of god don't ever stop it looks AMAZING).
Sooo, I don’t know if anyone has talked about yet, but has anyone else noticed that if was only overlords, or those of equal or greater power to the overlords were the only ones using “care bear powers?” Does that mean Nifty is or was an overlord?! Maybe Danny will get his Nifty power scale wish… 🤔
I'm pretty sure that in the pilot, when they are introducing Alastor as an overlord and you can see other Overlords around him, you can see Nifty's silhouette in the bottom right corner!
The reason Nifty & Husk can do the care bear stare is because they are overlords
yeah I feel like the logistics of the hypnosis were really never explained
the man bun is giving problematic
I definitely liked this season more than season 1
Not Danny living vicariously though Velvet to the fantasy of looking as fire as you are petty
Gosh that half updo is making me bark
Real
About the possible "questioning angels allegiance" plotline, it wouldve been really fun to explore! Unfortunately amazon hates fun and only allowed for 8 episodes a season, and since we're on the last episode theres sadly no way that couldve been a possibility
Not railed from behind
NGL, a PISS reprise but being based as Husk and Angel beating the piss out of Val while being lovey-dovey would SLAY!!! 😈
Why is 30% of eps cut out including all the best parts
Cause same video get uploaded to YouTube as well, just with the music dubbed over and YouTube will copyright
I'll start with I love this show and this season was good! No I didn't like that Charlie just magically knew Angel was mind controlled- I also didn't like how much nobody cared about Lucifer like your dad was getting the power sucked out of him and you can't even run over to him and catch him before he falls, also that Lucifer's pain is always like...played off as a joke? And they didn't even make up after??? I really hate how Charlie's direction went and most of the writing with Lucifer this season but otherwise I loved most everything. Also finally Abel got to SING. ALSO people really just need to be patient- let the characters cook, Lute is surely going to downward spiral with S2 forcing her to not fight
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I agree it was weird they suddenly knew angel was being mind controlled but I was fine with it bc I was dreading sitting through the devilment of that--I hate misunderandings
Let’s go! Danny the man-ny!
Uploaded a soon as I finished watching ep 7 reaction. so satisfying, thank you Danny!!
Woot woot! Just what needed before I sleep!
Congrats on the happy relationship with Alex Brightman
Winter coming 🤯 support me 🙏🏻
Its 4am where im at but best believe I will be watching Danny Motta Anytime, Anywhere😁
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Omggg I js sat here for like a good three seconds with my jaw open because peak just dropped
I’ve been waiting for this intently since the email. Thank you for keeping your word
It’s time
the moment i clicked the yt one, i got this notification, gods are real🧎🙏
Finally peak just dropped!!!
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