Poll about Patreon: Help us understand your experience
Hey everyone!
Recently, we noticed a decline in patronage and want to better understand what might be driving it. Your feedback will help us improve both the game and the way we run Patreon.
If you changed your support level or are considering it, what are the main reasons? (You can choose more than one option)
If you’d like, please share more details in the comments.
Even a short explanation really helps us understand what we can improve.
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Comments (24)
I have been around since LA s:1, and enjoyed the sandbox play immensely. The main story arc (starting the Magical academic, to "graduation/ Big Baddie confrontation") got fuzzy along the way with all the side-characters, butt--we got there in the end :) SoS is more channeled, and choices fewer (to side characters & main characters) which is a correction move IMO you've undertaken. I LOVE a sandbox mode, butt I am patient enough to realize this is early in the game, and that it might (fingers crossed) get this framework later. That said, I like trying to see where the next twists and turns in the plot are taking my choices with the MC.
That is what I'm kind of rooting for too. I love the sandbox system from the first games. I also would like this game to have more puzzles
Since I have rupey card not visa or MasterCard
Dev you don't take UPI Payment therefore I m legging ....
Waiting for the finished game in the end, but the main motive is that 10 dollars a month to still have much delay compared to even tier 2 subs, is a little too much to my taste, I'm not seeing my return on investment anymore.
Used to see releases. Delayed, yes but I used to get them. Now only $10 or more is required and that is too much per month.
Well, I'm just waiting 😅... I lost my LTop back in July of last year, and I have lowered my pledge to $3 until I get it... but my loyalty and support for Bear In The Night have never wavered 😁. And I can't wait to get and play this 😋.
Well, i've been renewing my patreon last month, but frankly, i will likely not stay until version 1.10. Main reason is : this could have been better if SoS were a totally separate game from the LA series. The current mix (old MC is back, some of his LI pop up and go their way, a whole new cast) does not appeal to me. Also, i grew fond of many of the characters from LA. Both those who we met right from Season One, and some newcomers in S3 or S4. Imho, considering the MC is the same, i would have liked it more if SoS happened with the old cast more in the forefront (like some of them being involved in various ways in the cases involving the MC and his new job, instead of just popping up here and there) and less new characters. OR, you could have made a brand new MC and game, even if it's supposed to happen in the same universe. SoS would have had the opportunity to fully develop its own identity. Like it is, it feels too much like you wanted both to push new ideas AND capitalize on longstanding fans of LA... but the result is not that. This is personal, but what could make me remain until the end and possible season 2 is a shift to increased implication by the old LA characters you've already put in SoS, and a more open, sandbox approach.
agree
I would've preferred if the MC would have been a completely new character. This way I really miss Haley as my main LI and the other loved characters. And their relationship status should be way higher than it is now. Also I miss the sandbox style.
I really enjoy Streets of Sorcery, but would prefer to see better looking characters. Other than Claire, Bianca and Violet, I don't find the other characters that appealing. It would be great to see more of Haley and bring back Dakota, Lily and some of the others who were important to MC just to make a guest appearance. It would also be nice to see Molly, Amelie or Sabrina pop in to say hello. In Lust Academy, you had Victoria, Amelie and Sabrina as the teachers and all of them were good looking. Here, you have Madlen, who is OK and Elizabeth, who I don't find attractive in the least. The other characters are average, which is fine, but there really should be some more hot looking ones. I still am supporting you because I do enjoy your work. Thanks.
I like both LA and SOS and even though it's not possible to compare yet, it was not fair, the reduction of my support is not due to any decline in quality. Just please improve the music, that's the weakest element. It often doesn't fit the atmosphere at all, it's not very dynamic, doesn't respond to changes in the scene, story situations and contains few songs. I plan to increase support this month, as I already wrote, the best team that I will never leave. 🤎
In LA our MC helped many women to increase their desire, the drawing with Alice at the train station was epic, not to mention her succubus gf and her transition, also Willow was sweet, and the berries that enhanced a biracial hookup! , MC also had the bisexual option with Elijah and MMF with Molly. In SoS his sexuality is a passing desire, agreed that Haley, Sam, and Ashley have been kicked to the curb, not appreciating the angst with Sebastian - prefer a working team approach, and I would like to see Milosh get some fun with him, MC.
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This game simply isn't as good as LA was is probably the main cause. No sandbox, no clear plot, no harem route, requires max amount of loyalty points for Claire to get that one scene, music is worse... It's still playable, but nowhere close as much fun as LA was.
Notice that this really NOT the visual novel (like LA) as your choices are narrowed, this is a more sandbox approach. The plot is the investigations that pop up, and 1.7 offers harem supreme, your choices make the story. Agreed, not like LA where you can go to the library, or cafe, or your bedroom when you want. However, which girl you choose - whoa nellie!
in Germany we cant get the games on Steam and on Oppai were i buy / abo games is for example Streets of Sorcery not aviable next is academy is only to buy all not even an abo choice
I think you add not happy with your new game. I know a few have left for that reason. You say this a successor to LA yet only have Ashley as a returning character, and not much of one. You ruined Haley who would of been a good returning character for DIS. But you ruined her by making her a reporter. Not to mention that she was your girlfriend in LA. In SoS she pretty much nothing. Having Claire as a solo option we almost fooled around with her in a earlier update. Where she made no reference to being exclusive was stupid. Also only allowing choosing of one person to hang out with at the end the chapter was another issue I seen that I agree. I think you had chances during the chapter to do the same. I heard a lack of sandbox option which LA was known is a problem. I am going say love sandbox. But I also like this format some too. I think should be a choice to the player. I am pretty sure I left a couple issue out.
I support BiN for lot of time. I feel that patron content gets limited. In the past there were comics every 2 weeks, dances, teasers. I feel the patron-only content frequency dropped. Long story short more patron content will keep people maintaining patreon subscriptions instead of waiting final game.
Gio, thank you for your feedback You're right, and hope we can change this trend as soon as we optimize the development process on our new game As you can see, we often change the looks of charatcters and and new ones for dynamic gameplay, but it needs more resources
LA 1 was one of the first AVNs I ever played. I really enjoyed it and was invested and impatient to see what came next. I subscribed to you on Patreon for LA2 & 3 because of that initial experience. For each of those games I contributed 10-20 times the cost of each games. Then at the end I wanted the final all in, achievements and everything version I had to pay steam again.
Thank you for your comment! Based on your past experience, you received some benefits from your tiers, correct? Or didn't you like any additional content or early access to the game build?
Came here because i liked the demo of SoS, like i stated before, i didnt like LA very much, the Sandbox was to generated, the Love stories to shallow, the Side LI were more interesting than the Main LI, and it dragged on far too long without evolving anything. It was not bad but really good AVNs look like BaD or Hillside... BUT...SoS looks good so far, lets see how it will continue...just my 2 cent.
Thank you! What kind of benefits for Patreon can influence your decision to go to the higher tier?
