Regarding Patreon’s temporary suspension
tl;dr: I'm on the clear but gotta age canon under-18 chars. up harder than I used to. No furry x human allowed. Can't post older stuff on twitter. Looking into alternatives but focus remains on Patreon. March will be a test run & should start posting pics soon.
What happened?
The 18th of February Patreon contacted me because they believed some of my work broke their guidelines and put my account in temporary suspension. Not resolving the issue before the end of the month would result in no pledges being processed for February, so as time was running out I was forced to remove all my posts to be on the safe side.
They also required me to either remove all links to Patreon on any of my accounts that contain this older content OR remove all the “violative content” from them so I can keep linking to my Patreon. That’s why you may notice my twitter looking a bit barren too.
So what did Patreon disapprove of?
The main issue was that they believe I had not aged canonically under 18 characters enough, and referred to pokegirls and hero academia characters in particular.
Essentially, when drawing a character who is under 18 in canon both body and face have to differ enough from the original design so that no one could confuse it for the original, especially when it comes to the face. I believe the bodies on my depictions were clearly mature enough and Patreon mainly had problems with the faces, such as on my sets “Double Reins” & “Spit-roasted Piggy Lover” (google them + my name to check them, I can’t link to them).
Lastly there was a minor issue with my Isabelle piece due to her being with humans, which as far as I know has only become a problem recently.
Plans moving forward on Patreon
I’ll try to follow Patreon’s advice when aging under 18 characters up, it may take a while to find the sweet spot so please bear with me. I should be able to draw 18+ character’s faces on model as long as their bodies already look mature (such as some of the chars on my banner like Shinobu).
I've been recommended to post my previews only on Discord, but considering ~35% of my patrons don’t use it and that I’m going to follow the guidelines anyway, the wisest option is to continue posting on my feed as usual. Let’s hope Patreon doesn’t suddenly become stricter or adds some unreasonable rule.
I’m also strongly considering alternatives, I’ll let you know if I ever start using one.
What about twitter?
I'm not allowed to promote my Patreon on twitter posts if I ever reupload any earlier "violative content", so I guess I’ll just upload the new safe stuff for now and figure out what to do with the rest later when I have more time, right now I got a lot of work to catch up on.
I think that’s about it, glad I can finally get back to making art instead of deleting it. I got some art already made but I'll try to space releases evenly during these next three weeks.
Leave a comment below if you got any questions for me or thoughts to share about all this.
Comments (24)
It’s not as if Human X Furry is zoophilia, so why would Patreon care... it’s all fictional. That faces issue is silly too. Not like most MHA would realistically change in a couple years of aging up. But keep doing what you do!
subscribestar or pixvfanbox would be your best bet
PixivFanbox, pawoo, baraag. Many alternatives have been popping up to catch the fallen Patreon sites.
I know of pixivfanbox, but does pawoo or baraag have patreon-like funding systems?
Geez, so many fucks given about a few drawn fictional characters. As if humanity has nothing more important to worry about -_-
What about subscribestar?
I've been looking into it. Right now I consider it a last resort that I'd only take if this Patreon starts doing very poorly due to the changes or if rule changes make it impossible to work here. If I come up with a good way to have both at the same time I may try that, but it'd be tricky to make it work since they only use the "per month" system.
Megaupload or a new Twitter for content like that which can be separate, or a discord channel for Patreon with another account being able to post images?
Doubt it'd work since they seem to check all accounts I have and they have the power to suspend my account (no income if left unchecked) until I've either removed all content they dislike or I removed all links to patreon.
Have tried looking at Pixiv?
Can you even get money support from Pixiv? Been rather curious on that.
Patreon is getting more and more restrictive...
Unless it's a site made purposely for nsfw art Most sites are getting more restrictive nowadays.
Will you still be able to post your older stuff on your site?
They just don't want me to link to my site on Patreon and vice versa.
How about posting old stuff on Hentai Foundry?
I just remembered Neo has a website for his older stuff. That's one place to consider
Sad to hear what happened
Just realized that likely means we can't download any of previous 140 update sets through Patreon anymore. Patreon is basically making things more difficult
No humansxfurries? Looks like that Isabelle set is going to to be a rare NeoCoill Gem It's a bit petty on Patreon though picking out these minor details, they already looked matured compared to what's often done by other Lewd artists
Same thing happened to another user. Fuck you Patreon.
Patreon is kind of shooting themselves in the foot here. I hope you can find a good alternative because this is unacceptable.
This was not worth having nearly a month of your time stolen from working.
Well.... Shit. Patreon being just soooo helpful as ever. 😑 Sorry dude, that's rough.