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December 6, 2023

Upgrade to Unreal Engine 5 - Yes or No

Heya everyone! Before CBT 2 was launched we talked about the possibility of upgrading the game to Unreal Engine 5 when the engine is stable enough. Today we finished laying the foundation for the upgrading in closed beta update 0.8.0.

But before we start, we would like to hold a public poll to make sure you are okay with this. Considering that this will be an irreversible choice impacting every player in the community, I'd like to ensure that we have an adequate sample size before the ship is sailed.


  • PROS:

Upgrading to Unreal Engine 5 means better graphics overall. Real-time accurate shadow generation, ray-tracing and groom based hair simulation (the tech used on Elizabeth's hair) will take up less resources. Lumen (impacts coloring, shadow and reflection), particle system (impacts the body fluids VFX), alpha layering (impacts translucent materials such as the stockings and hair) improvements will enhance the game visually.


  • CONS:

Any graphic card that does not support SM5 (Lower than Nvidia Geforce GTX-1070) will NO LONGER BE ABLE TO RUN THE GAME after the upgrading. Addressing optimization and compatibility issues may take a couple of weeks to a month.

Comments (81)

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moto saka · September 26, 2024

说实话,支援者们都是花这么多钱玩一个黄油,也不缺那点钱更新个好的显卡,所以直接ue5就完事了

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LogicFS · June 13, 2024

I am very in favor of upgrading the engine. I know that there may be some image quality issues when I first change the engine, and I hope to ultimately achieve better image quality than before. After seeing a friend's screenshot of last year, I really envy the image quality that I seem to want from the past. And I am a 4070 graphics card, so theoretically, this game can play RTX and run smoothly with high graphics quality. I look forward to your optimization. Well done, everyone will not be stingy with their wallets.

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Jungle_Cat · January 19, 2024

It is recommended to issue pass missions to speed up the pass level improvement.

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Arctic · January 2, 2024

什么时候beta也能支持vr?

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Dingdong · December 28, 2023

Please do, as long as you keep low graphic options people shouldn't mind too much, and RT can be disabled, gotta say it would look great on this game at 4K

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omega22 · December 20, 2023

I would like to know when I can optimize the loading speed. Nowadays, simply loading often takes more than two hours, and links may be disconnected due to long loading times.

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qingcai · December 20, 2023

快快更新!

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ben · December 15, 2023

What is SM5? I’m not opposed to upgrading a graphics card if that’s all it would take ( currently using rx580 and already have texture issues with this game.

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asas2 · December 15, 2023

We expect improvements in the two aspects, (1) content and (2) graphics. So, yes, do the upgrade, please. Graphics was reason #1 that pulled us to play and pay!

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Joxes · December 11, 2023

just want the VR port .-.

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Tyrthemis · January 6, 2024

same, been feeling a bit neglected

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PhD Dude · December 10, 2023

please use all your resource to update new characator, and sex position. it's the motivation that people continue pay.

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CG225 · December 10, 2023

full send to UE5. when i first played the game, the graphics were the ones that really pulled me in. the horny became an after-thought. i'll upgrade my Graphics card if needed.

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Warlight · December 9, 2023

IMO I'm not particularly up for options that can significantly slay my frames, considering i'm on a mediocre-cringe hardware by current gaming standards

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Nathan Phoenix · December 9, 2023

Game looks great already. Don't need raytracing on the white stains...

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SuNNLov · December 8, 2023

Wait, if the upgrade to UE5 is approved, version 0.8.0 will take several months to be released? Or will 0.8.0 be released this month and upgrade to UE5 later?

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Dying Breed · December 8, 2023

“Today [yesterday] we finished laying the foundation for the upgrading in closed beta update 0.8.0.” Apparently it’s done, but now they’re polling on an engine upgrade. Make of that what you will.

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Louis Li · December 8, 2023

Yes

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John Doe · December 8, 2023

Please don't do this.

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Samuel Everett · December 8, 2023

Even upgrading from Unreal 4 to 5 still has challenges. If they release the UE5 version before they have had a chance to do the necessary excess work it will have a few more bugs and issues with just what they have now. Any engine shift, even an upgraded engine running on the same base core, causes issues. I want more options to the game, not necessarily better graphics. The graphics are pretty good as they are.

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ExMachina14 · December 7, 2023

This seems like the kind of game that should ALWAYS be upgrading to the most cutting edge graphical improvements.

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Azatoth · December 7, 2023

It will be a good excuse to delay more so.... mmmh... no. :)

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drzalost · December 7, 2023

will the engine upgrade IMPROVE performance? I am concerned that an engine switch may cause additional complications (1 step forward 2 steps back scenario)

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Ungadunga · December 7, 2023

I originally came to this game because it's beta had VR support I'd rather that get focus than going to UE5, besides the game visually is fine as is.

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11 · December 7, 2023

希望看见战役模式,一上来就看性爱场景总会腻的,有剧情模式更好

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Cyberdildonics · December 7, 2023

Moving to UE5 is a mistake at this time. VR support, adding all existing content to Gallery mode, and fleshing out the game itself is far more important at this point.

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Konrad · December 7, 2023

Let's use the best next gen engine for long term appreciation

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VtheSnep · December 7, 2023

I haven't been involved for long and I think it's a really great project. I can see that the project has already been running for a few years and therefore I can understand everyone who has said no. I voted yes, but only because I still have a lot to unlock. What I miss most about the game is the interaction with other online players and playing as a male gender. I also don't understand why this is not already in the game as everything it needs is there. If an online player is in a scene, another player could actively join that scene. Or a player standing around could invite another player to a scene. I think something like this is needed in the game so that many players who already have everything don't quit when you make the switch to UE5 (which will take some time I think).

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Dave Scholze · December 7, 2023

Lumen and Nanite could definitely a huge improvement (especially Lumen).

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Thai Thinh Tran · December 7, 2023

Tbh, the game have poorly performance even when i have 3080ti it still lag at first and the fps is not as i expected, just ensure the game runs smoothly then everything is fine with me.

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Roberto C. Silva · December 7, 2023

Be honest — this engine change is an excuse to delay the game, no?

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Roberto C. Silva · December 7, 2023

Do we really need UE5 when the game runs poorly as is?

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Martin Tepper · December 7, 2023

I would very much like VR mode first, I have been waiting and supporting for that for ages

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흑우 · December 7, 2023

I don't want to be delayed any more

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Foxx · December 7, 2023

Move to UE5, it's "next gen" lets make the game looking even better and light and shadows makes much for a nice visual experience.

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Oshinoko_fan8724 · December 7, 2023

RTX user is support this

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TheCollector · December 7, 2023

Don’t forget DLSS 3.5 after adding all that ray traced glory… aka go the full Alan Wank.

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Your Huckleberry · December 7, 2023

My RTX4070oc could use the exercise. Upgrade

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lethal · December 7, 2023

Every project I've seen attempting this switch ran into massive problems with only marginal improvements to show for it. Let alone the significant performance problems that came with the new version even on high-end hardware. I hope you reconsider and instead focus on the basic game and gameplay.

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Roland Deschain · December 7, 2023

I would say keep it in UE4 for the same reasons that many people have already brought up. It could seriously delay things and I really don't want to read the complaints that will inevitably come up when performance drops for some hardware. If you're going to use UE5 I'm assuming you'd be looking to add lumen and nanite, which I can't see a use for in the game, at least IMO.

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Yise · December 7, 2023

比起升级到虚幻五带来的永久性提升,短暂的等待是值得的

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st · December 7, 2023

In the first place, GPUs of that class already do not provide satisfactory performance, so I don't think it will be a big problem even if support ends.

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Brandon · December 7, 2023

Let’s not mention the extra work load or the huge scale up in time spent moving it over. FYI this is not a snap they will need a good chunk of time JUST to move it over. That means no new animations characters, creatures etc. not saying others won’t work on them but we won’t see em until the move

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y_koichi · December 7, 2023

A large amount of new work for UE5 has arisen, and I think it will become a factor in delaying the schedule for the game portion.

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Skyland · December 7, 2023

You can buy used Dell Precision with NVIDIA Quadro T1000 or T2000 for cheap, usually after they come off 3 years or so service warranty at universities, etc. that upgrade for newer models.

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Skyland · December 7, 2023

Upgrade, because the complex game graphics already overwhelm anything below 1050Ti. Even 1050Ti can barely handle it. 1650Ti can be bought cheaply these days over 1070

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MSGoneDumb · December 7, 2023

So slightly off topic question: Do you have specific venues to post questions/comments or are responses to your posts pretty much it?

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11 · December 7, 2023

升级虚幻5,画质更好

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RichardSiegers · December 7, 2023

as long you refund the people who cant run SM5 im good with it

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Jonathan · December 7, 2023

If it is well optimized and the new bugs that will come out with the change to UE5 are fixed, the graphic quality will be impressive and will have a good performance. But things have to be done better. Without forcing anything, keeping communication to avoid misunderstandings. So we can be informed and give our opinion. It is true that UE5 will require more resources but they will not be exaggerated. Maybe many players will think about what happened with Elizabeth's hair in UE4, but it is not like that. **For those who have doubts, there is a game called "Carnal Instinct" (Open World & NSFW). They are migrating to UE5. The game looks great and the requirements are still not exaggerated. Steam allows you to install either the UE4 version or the UE5 version.

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鉴洋 · December 7, 2023

请问升级之后1660ti能运行吗

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qingcai · December 7, 2023

所以0.8什么时候更新?

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Mextli · December 7, 2023

Could you please briefly list which graphics cards can be used after the update and which ones cannot? I believe many people in favor of the update don't know the situation

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徐君凯Kevin · December 7, 2023

UR5 baby, that's why I bought a 1080Ti

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gunsightONE · December 6, 2023

I'm all for you improving the game in every aspect. UE5 is a no brainer, also hoping for combat mode/story stuff. You've got a good base for sex related content. Now just needs more gameplay focus. You can always add more researchers, monsters, poses later

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CaffeineInducedDesigns · December 6, 2023

So im not too versed in my pc lore, but I have a rtx 3050, will that be able to run UE5?

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Project Helius · December 6, 2023

Of course.

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LongMarch9 · December 6, 2023

Look, I'm all for better tech, but I'm also not going to wait my ass out for no content like last time

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Chris Jacks · December 6, 2023

DOOEEEEEEEEET!

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yusuchinu Tenshi · December 6, 2023

i heard physics with UE5 is less greedy than UE4 soo if it's true that would help for optimisation , but if you planning to do that soon, don't lose your time with UE4 optimization , you will probably doing it for nothing. the Game satisfactory change UE4 to UE5 and that change anything about FPS for my computer (RTX 3080TI with 32/9 ultrawide screen) , but now the collision with the vehicles on the floor and fondation are very fluid . The UE5 unlocked some graphic option like Ray tracing and a better ambiant occlusion too, soo for a potentially final graphic update that would be awesome . that would be better to make VR on the game if you still plan to VR your game . after trying a lot of game like yours the physics collision is the most greedy thing i saw in VR. ( occulus quest 3 for me )

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Syclone Dark · December 6, 2023

Le jeu et déjà magnifique mais avec le nouveau lumen pour les ombre et ça va le rendre plus réaliste

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Pyrrhon · December 6, 2023

Please focus on content first

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SuNNLov · December 6, 2023

People need to accept that the GTX series is very outdated. But performance in Unreal Engine 5 is often terrible if done wrong. The only thing I ask: Would 60+ FPS still be possible with RTX 3000 series cards?

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Project Helius · December 6, 2023

I think so.

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lady Oscar · December 6, 2023

That's not even a game for now. I'd rather something that's a game than something that is a library of a few sex scenes.

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Project Helius · December 6, 2023

Wait a bit for the combat mode!

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Cato · December 6, 2023

Another thing some folks don't seem to get is that the "progress" for features will continue to be at a snail pace seeing that they will have to tackle more bugged issues with each update. It's very likely performance will suffer greatly even if they claim it will run fine when they make the switch and perhaps a year or two for another "rebuild" that won't improve much. Their track record shows this being likely the case.

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Naukshao · December 6, 2023

What would be the timeline to have a playable demo ?

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Project Helius · December 6, 2023

0.8.0 in UE5? in a couple of months.

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mdreg · December 6, 2023

Yes, if it helps easily implement VR feature

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Dying Breed · December 6, 2023

Feature creep is real with this game

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Cato · December 6, 2023

This not going to go well at all seeing how poor the optimization gone for years.

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Lucky · December 6, 2023

The game looks great already and honestly none of us are playing a game like this to look shadow generation or reflections. Would rather have more substance to it than giving it graphics overhaul. Stick with UE4.

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Oof · December 6, 2023

Even with a good graphics card, UE5 lags horribly. And no offense, the game already lags for no reason as is.

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Adamus Homos · December 6, 2023

Game is running poorly now…imagine the game on UE5

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Dick Cheney · December 6, 2023

Yes long as ray tracing can be disabled for non RTX cards

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Leon_Magnum · December 6, 2023

No, Too soon. Wait 6 months.

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Lethe · December 6, 2023

Sure, but for the love of God, fix VR please!

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_Fox_ · December 6, 2023

It's not even implemented yet, so there's nothing to fix!

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Oof · December 6, 2023

UE5 is horribly optimized.

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Crik · December 6, 2023

true,but update is inevitable,now or future