Open Love Life - Polyamory, Triads, Side Partners, Commitment Preferences - Sims 4 Mod for More Relationship Types
Check Global Update Notes post for Latest Update notes.
MOD DESCRIPTION HERE ON THE WEBSITE.
READ MOD DESCRIPTION FOR FULL LIST OF FEATURES AND MOD INSTRUCTIONS
Preview screenshots:
No concerns other than, WW's real life-like 'woohoo' will be considered for jealousy. This mod doesn't apply to it.
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TRANSLATIONS AVAILABLE:
See here: https://lumpinoumods.com/translations/
MASSIVE thanks to Triplis and Frank for their help with some script stuff.
Big thanks to the Special Agents on my Discord, deww.drp, ToriGamez, Mia16 and RavenAstra.
Thank you to the testers at Discord.
DOWNLOAD & Installation:
1 - remove files from previous versions, if any
2 - REQUIRED: Lumpinou's Toolbox Library-Mod.
If you don't already have it, grab the REQUIRED "Lumpinou's Toolbox" Library-Mod here (alt: here), and put it into your mods folder or one subfolder, NO DEEPER.
3 - grab the .package file from this post (link below), and put it into your mods folder or one subfolder.
************ NEED HELP? Check info & links in this post. If they don't answer your question, contact me on Discord, or here.
Comments (88)
So...don't need the TScript for OpenLoveLife any longer?
Hi, No, not in quite a while, it uses Toolbox
Thank you for all you do for the sims community. I tried downloading the open love life mod and the tool box but it's still not showing up in my game :(
Hi, Check the installation tutorial https://lumpinoumods.com/how-to-install-sims-4-mods/ The menu for this mod shows under the EA menu 'change relationship' these days
I feel like the side partner is very similar to an open relationship or even poly because some who have open relationships still have an agreement where they have to approve of the other people the partner can hook up with. As for poly there are poly relationships where the one partner has their own partner but isn't necessarily for the other partner so is there a a way to just include this side partner into the other relationships? I noticed even when I had my one sim preference as neutral and the girl as to also neutral or having an open relationship she still ended up feeling bad for cheating when she didn't cheat in their open relationship. That's why I'm not understanding this mod or what I am doing wrong. This is one mod I seem to have trouble with compared to many mods I use now. Is the triple couple considered the poly couple but all parties are dating each other and not just 2 vs 1 kind of thing? Would it be better to message you? Last time it took an extremely long time for a response compared to commenting.
I really want to use this mod to it's full capacity but I always have trouble with it idk why lol prob most my adhd brain overthinking stuff. So if I want to have an open relationship I would choose non exclusive but what if I want to date more seriously certain sims and still have other flings on the side? That becomes the exclusive relationship? I saw in the comments here about going to romance and looking for side partner there. Would that be someone being in a serious relationship with some but having a fling basically on the side? When you say you're in a exclusive relationship with say three people are all three people teachinally with each other or when you ask to add someone that person is for you only to have relations with? Would you ever consider adding these options to add partner or anything in just one pie menu instead of it being in the romance pie menu? I never think to look there and always have trouble with this mod idky lol. I think the wordy confuses me lol instead of it just saying open relationship or poly relationship. Also another thing I noticed everytime I say I'm in an non exclusive relationship but then my sims get deeper sentiments or feelings I will sometimes get moodlets stating I cheated and feel bad etc when I didn't cheat lol. This has happened many times and I'm not sure why or when I ask someone to be my boyfriend and then ask to be in a non exclusive relationship with someone else it still says I'm cheating when technically I'm not. Sorry this is long would it be better to message you because this is driving me crazy trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong or why it keeps saying I'm cheating in an open relationship lol.
Hi, the important thing to understand is preferences vs actual relationships. If a sim prefers non exclusive but is in an exclusive relationship, they'll have jealousy, because the Sims agreed to be faithful and the other isn't. The reaction depends on the agreement, aka where trust is respected or broken. The preferences impact how Sims react in relationships of different types, and how likely or not they are to accept certain arrangements.
I always have trouble with this mod. How do I set their preferences for the relationship and where do I ask if they want to be in a polyamorous relationship or open relationship on the menu? I don't see all the options in the relationship pie menu.
Hi, make sure you installed properly, including the requirement (Toolbox). Then it's all in 'change relationship' to ask stuff, and to change preferences it's under 'actions' when clicking self
Quick couple questions for clarification, With the games dating/marriage system in mind, does it matter what order you ask for a non-exclusive relationship? For example, would asking for a non-exclusive relationship even before the sims officially started dating impact the mod or game at all? Or would it be best to wait until they're already a couple within the game until you as for such an arrangement?
Hi, that is a very good question! Things have a tendency to show ft with updates so I won't absolutely swear by it, but normally any order is fine :)
I just got into a non-exclusive relationship with an NPC character. In the romance category it had a question about "do you have any other partners." Will that change on its own? Will the NPC form relationships with other characters autonomously?
Hi, Sims are allowed to autonomously flirt with others, but in practice NPC's rarely engage into anything between NPC's, however they engage into relationships with played Sims more. There is no dedicated system at the time to make them start other relationships, but I like the idea and will add that in sometime!
Sadly, this is not working for me. When I have this mod in, I get an infinite loading screen and a better exception mod warning. I have the latest version of the toolbox.
Hi, you have either an installation problem or a broken mod then. The broken mod giving a lot of trouble lately is PreferencePlus. The creator is aware but had no time to fix it. Take it out if you have it
I can't download the updated mod. It says this box user is out of bandwidth.
See here https://x.com/lumpinou/status/1817618071407738885?t=gGC_Ho70FhM0cp91vODV6Q&s=19
https://www.patreon.com/posts/open-love-life-104422556
Spanish translation on my Patreon.
is this still working?
Yes
How do you get a side partner? I don’t know how to get that option to appear
If your sim has an official and exclusive relationship with someone, they can ask that partner to be allowed to have a side partner. It's under 'romance' then 'relationship type'
When I used just open love life, she didn't get jealous. So when I put RPO back, it was fixed
I love how your mods make the game way more interesting!! About the 'indifferent to being romantically exclusive' sims, I was wondering if it would be a cool idea to implement a jealous system... like, if they witness their partner being romantic with other sims in front of them, they could get insecure or secretly jealous. Something like "I'm fine with you seeing other people, but aren't you getting too attached to this person?". There could be a score for the nature of the relationship (like in 'no strings attached'), where both grow comfortable with things the way they are or start to become prone to monogamy. Maybe this feature could be optional! For it to work, some chatboxes would appear asking things, for instance: "Your partner just kissed someone in front of you. What is your reaction?" a) I'm cool with it b) Not bothered but let's get out of here (jealousy in denial) c) That made me feel jealous/insecure. And depending of each action, the couple would go somewhere else, have an argument or something like that (?) Don't know if that makes sense haha anyways, thank you for your hard work!
Hi I love all your mods, sorry if this is a dumb question but I'm struggling to figure it out, how do I go about setting up a three person relationship? Do I need at least two of the sims in my household?
No, you just need your played sim to ask a partner
Ww has a "open relationship" does it override yours?
No, the mods ignore each other
Hello! My girlfriend is having some issues with the mod. We can get a poly relationship actually started. Sure we can date our second partner, but we can’t all three be in a relationship. I’m sure this is such an easy fix, but apparently we are dumb and don’t understand lol. Are we missing something here?
If you have them in an open relationship they're all open. You'd need them to have a 'multiple exclusive relationship'. If they're in a open one it might be a bit backwards to get it to show to offer to be multiple exclusive. You might have to end the open relationships (use cheats under actions if you don't want the sad moodlets etc), and then ask to be a multiple exclusive
Hello! First of all, thank you for making this! This was exactly what I had been looking for when I remembered that the base game doesn't allow poly relationships, after I had just started a household that I had planned to be a poly relationship haha. Are you planning on expanding the number of people that can be in a relationship? Even if it's just to 4 or 5? I want to build a bigger poly household and I'd love if it were possible to have them all be in one relationship. If not, I'm still happy just having two trios :)
They'd have to just all be in open relationship with each other at the moment
Would it be possible to only allow 1 partner to have relations with others while the second partner remains monogamous?
Already exists in the mod, it's called an 'official side partner' or 'approved side partner' and Sims can ask each other to have that. Otherwise, for more than one side partner, just count the relationship as open. An open relationship doesn't mean all people involved are with several partners
Hi Lumpinou! Glad to know that you consider updating this mod in the future. May I ask if it is possible to have unlimited side partners (or at least, more than one)? I'm playing under the ancient China background and one side partner is obviously not enough :)I think the idea of side partner really fits some monarchy backgrounds around the world. Is it difficult to add such a feature? You mentioned soul marriage in the comments, which is interesting as well but that is different from side partner. I hope you can consider my suggestion! Many thanks!
Hi! I deliberately limited it to one because I didn't want people using my mod to create all sorts of harems :) In some historical contexts it would make sense etc but in other contexts it might be less warranted. This I say because I had received some requests that made me really uncomfortable and that prompted this decision to limit it... Adding the possibility for the other sim to refuse allowing it was also done so that this feature not become used to make Sims forced to do or allow things. But, yeah, that all was the reasoning here... And for the 'marriage' thing, that would apply to sims in poly relationships so, indeed, it is not meant to be what you described either
Hi! I just want to ask if there is a bug. I have my sims in an open relationship, but my sim still got caught cheating by the person they are in the open relationship with. I am not sure if this is a bug, or intentional, but it should not be, due to the fact that both sims agreed to the open relationship, and both prefer non-exclusive relationships.
There are no bugs, so my suspicion is your Sims used ww interactions. These respond to Turbo's jealousy system and not anything from the game or me. Let me know if that was the case. If not, we'll need to go back and forth with other questions, as other possibilities would be a glitch or a game file change from the patch :)
Is there a way to make this compatible with wicked so sims don't get jealous?
you'll have to set that individual person's wicked whims so they are into adultery or cuckhold.
Hello Lumpinou is tere also the possibility to translate the open love life mod to german?
Hi, I don't do translations myself (I'd have to know all the languages 😂) and translators do what they do when they do and I have no impact on these things
Hey. I am having trouble where when I click on open love life it does not open. Instead it just plays the music like it is open.
What does not open? Did you install properly?
Random question that might be dumb. But does this work with your who hoo mod? My sim is in a multi-relationship and got jealous.
Yes it does, all my mods play nice together. Do you have Turbodriver mods with settings that may impact jealousy?
hi, i joined your patreon in hopes of downloading this mod. Forgive me if i overlooked anything but i do not see a link to download. Im very very new to this.
Did you find the download link? If you didn't just reading the above you'll see it.
Is this still being updated and working with patches? I would love to download it so just wanted to check :) x
All my mods are.
Hello, I downloaded this file to my mods. And the prefence option isn't showing in my actions within the game.
How deep in the mods folder did you put the script file?
Hi, I have this mod installed in my game and before the paranormal pack, I had the pie menu when I clicked on my sim to change their preference and now I don't see it. My married couple automatically got "Prefers Non-Exclusive" but with this family I want them "exclusive." Do you know if this needs an update? Or should I just re-download and see if that works?
Doesn't need an update at all. Changing preferences is under 'actions' then 'open love life'. Did you look there?
Hello, and thank for all your awesome works. You're truly a gift for our community. But...ehm, i have a problem with the latest update of Open Love Life. For some reasons in my game the new romance options appear to have no text description? I have the choice to select them but they don't show up properly.
What langage is your game in?
You truly are gifted my friend! Thank you so much for these awesome mods :)
Thank you :) Please note v1. 1 is not out anymore as some people are having a game issue with it. Until I figure it out I put back previous files.
Hey just downloaded the updates for this and Woohoo Wellness and now my household won't load. It's on the loading screen forever.
This may be the cause, wait a minute I'll look into it. It's not WHW it's this
OMH ok just take all of my money already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are truly gifted!
Aww thanks - heads up though there may be something off, I just noticed one scenario isn't running right anymore. I may need to re-upload in a few if that's the case. Sorry in advance and thanks for the nice words!
Hello, maybe I missed it but what's the difference between these files.
Between what files? In doubt, refer to compatibility instructions, which explain version differences :)
Hi, I have no break up option for sims in a non-exclusive relationships.
Please refer to the 'breaking it off' section of the mod description https://lumpinoumods.com/2020/10/20/open-love-life/
Thanks for the update. I wish you a happy time and pls. stay healthy. Lovely regards from Austria *waves*
I just don't have the guts to try making mods myself.
It's important to start small :) but it's ok, not everyone wants to mod, and tell you the truth it's kind of ruined the game for me, I can't play anymore I've sickened myself testing mods unfortunately 😂
looking for testers ? I can be your Huckleberry . I got tired of crap shows and bad news so in-between family and chores this is my life ...
Thanks! Are you on the discord?
I delete current then redownload , extract, then copy paste to mods. Am I doing it right?
Yes you are doing it right :)
with the fixes, do we need to uninstall the old one and reinstall the file?
Yes, ideally - if you do re download you do need to replace the files. If you chose not to re download that's ok but just be aware of these little issues existing in the previous version. Sorry again about this, I have testers and of course test myself as well but it seems I need more, and am looking into expanding the team so that less issues escape our combined vigilance and less tiny updates are needed.
love it <3 great job
I am glad I have decided to become a Patreon. I am pleased with your mods and so much to it has added. Great job
Thank you 😊
I'm so so excited to start playing with this mod!!
Yes I’m sorry I was typing fast 😅 and okay thank you your files make my game better and my stories as well
which mod do you download?
You mean which file? If you use Simler90's 'Better Romance' Mod then you can't have a small feature of two of this as they conflict and need to get the compatibility version. If you don't, then grab the top file, the normal version.
And once again: I can't believe what great mods you create. Your mods change the game for worlds, I could never play without them again. Thank you so much for all of your hard work! Best regards and pls. stay healthy
Oh wow Thank You! It doesn't seem like a small mod, but I certainly love it! This is an amazing addition.
Wow. You call this a small mod but this changes so much. Thank you for your hard work!
I freaking love it 😍
Wow! That doesn’t sound like a “small” mod 🤣. Thank you
