DIRECTOR'S CUT: Movie Couple Therapy: THE PRINCESS BRIDE's Westley and Buttercup
How do fairytale relationships differ from reality?
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright are taking a look at Westley and Buttercup’s relationship from The Princess Bride. Besides geeking out about a childhood classic, they talk about the difference between fairytale and real-life relationships and what pointers Jonathan would give to Westley and Buttercup if they existed outside of a fairy tale. Alan shares why The Princess Bride is so beloved to this today. Hint: it’s a perfect movie!
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24:07 Thought you were gonna say “Never happened” when you talked about the flaws of the movie. 😄 Also, talk about nice shots: the where Indigo is kneeling and/or holding his sword, that one was 🤌✨.
Also, where did Alan whip out that british accent from?! Very nice 👌
Poor Gandalf in the background. 🙈💕 26:33 Wish there was more of him in the episode. 🐶🫶
I, too, am not a lawyer of any kind, but my understanding is that the "I do" is actually a component of the legal marriage agreement, without which it would not be valid. At least, in traditional Western marriages. Great movie, great video!
This movie is I-CON-IC! I actually got to see this live in a theatre and then AFTER we got a Q&A session with Cary Elwis. It was amazing. Also THE SCORE IS AMAZING ALAN! HOW DARE YOU! 🤣
I really enjoy listening to your insights and silliness. Thank you for taking a risk
The Eminem joke sent me
Princess Bride and epic movie , Peter Falk can read me a story when I’m sick anytime , still love it years on and still great to watch , and always proud and always will be to be a Patreon of 2 very special guys your very dear to my heart Jono & Alan 😄☮️💚👌
I've loved this movie my whole life, but I still get annoyed at Buttercup. I guess she had about the agency of most 80s movie heroines, but her early entitlement & later passivity bug me a lot. My favorite thing about this film is the bromance of Inigo and Fezzik. They are ride-or-die in all the best ways.
A dashing, dapper dadly duo!
My reaction to: "Death can not stop true love" a milisecond before Alan: "Yeah, it can!" Great minds, I suppose. And there are few content makers who not only educate me, but also entertain me. Very happy to be your patron.
If we ever meet irl, I’m buying the drinks!
ALAN JACOBSON SEAWRIGHT YOU MONSTER HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE SCORE??? (I don't know your middle name so I had to make one up) I have only made it that far into the video and I *gasped* at that. Loudly. And had to pause to type this. edited to add, you both look good in your costumes (and not because your face is hiding, Alan, stop being mean to yourself!) but Jono especially looks quite sexy as Inigo 🔥
Right! He’s a good-looking man. And hey, we can have differing opinions on the score. It’s fine. Nobody HAS to be right, even though it’s obvious that I, Alan Jacobsen Rafael de Lancie McGillicutty Seawright, am right. 😉
If you're going to review more fairytale parody movies might I suggest Ella Enchanted?
The costumes are the best!!!
Speaking of awful synths in a fairy tale movie, how about reviewing Ladyhawke? :D
Oof.
I really hope we get an Inigo video
We’re working on it! But we need to get the man himself to do it properly.
Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die.
I LOVE THIS MOVIE! and I actually think the soundtrack adds to the parody drama style so I think it's perfect. To be fair, I am a millennial and did not live in the 80s so I think the sound kind of gets you in the now vintage mood of the movie... I don't know, I just think it's perfect how it is hahaha :)
I completely agree with you--the score does *exactly* what it means to do: the music makes it very clear how serious the movie IS NOT taking itself (and I saw it as a kid when it came out)
Some other notable women stunt peformers: Zoe Bell, Amy Johnston, Lauren Mary Kim, Heidi Moneymaker, Samantha Win, Sophia Crawford. The list goes on. And yeah, Michelle Yeoh was indeed a trailblazer for women in stunts overall.
Of course this episode was adorable, but I have a question I’ve been too afraid to ask… is Zack Snyder the new Michael Bay? 😬
I don't know. I don't know if Zack Snyder is in on the joke. Michael Bay *absolutely* is. But Zack Snyder is apparently a delight to work with, and Michael Bay is notoriously... okay. Like, screams a bit? But not in ways that are truly awful? I dunno.
FYI, the framing device actually comes from the book. The movie adaptation of it is brilliant. It works for people who haven't read the book, *and* for people who have, and were wondering what the film makers would do with a frame that starts with a (fake) introduction and proceeds with various interpolations in the text. (Including suggesting writing to the publishers for a copy of a chapter that was "left out". If you actually wrote the publishers, you didn't get the chapter, but you get a letter explaining why you weren't getting the chapter... which letter was in itself part of the framing/book.) Also, I personally think it helps the film a lot -- not strictly necessary in terms of action plot, no, but in terms of the movie overall as a story, really needed -- imho. Also, kudos to William Goldman, the rare person who can write well *both* as a novelist and as a screenwriter. Most novelists can't adapt their own work, because they're wired for novels, not screenplays.
the outfit reveals lmaoooo. I am so happy I'm in the Patreon right now
"if you're hot enough, accountability doesn't matter" I'M QUOTING YOU ON THAT JONO MUAHAHAHA NOBODY CAN STOP ME NOW
Our work here is finished. 🫡
Counterpoint. I saw a live performance last year of the score (with movie in the background) with an orchestra, and it was lovely.
I love this movie so much, but I agree entirely about fairy tale rules regarding the relationship. I remember in high school, a good friend of mine got together with another mutual friend. And we were always sort of like “she likes to tell him what to do and he likes to do it”, it seemed to outwardly work that their personalities matched in that way. But ultimately after they got married and moved together etc it was no longer sustainable. The last conversation I had with him about his marriage he said that they had separated because he didn’t want to be a parent and she did, and “but she’s X, so she’s going to get what she wants”. They ended up divorcing. No one partner can ever sacrifice everything for the other without it someday coming back to bite. Even if it seems romantic or functional in the beginning. -Erin
The book made it more clear that he actually was going to kill her. He did slap her in the book. He only softened when he realized she didn't actually love Humperdink and was still in love with him. It makes the whole thing a little bleaker...
Jono: “I have not read the pamphlets…” 😂
I have always loved this movie. The fact that it is a movie where the "hard times" are resolved so sweetly by the end make it worth watching as an escape. Life just doesn't work that way. And isn't that why we watch in the first place?
It occurs to me that being forced to do something against your will and having to face your SO afterwards can apply to a number of scenarios, some of them absolutely devastating. "*You* didn't say yes and therefore *You* didn't do it" can be so powerful. And now I have to go to work with these big thoughts in my head. Thanks guys! 😂🤣 Kidding! I absolutely love this and thank you so much for covering one of my favorite movies of all time while also addressing my, apparently shared, issues with it! ❤️❤️
I would push back on saying it was infatuation in the beginning. We don’t know how long Westley worked for Buttercup. He probably knows her very well. She may have been oblivious to him but he seemed to be very observant of her. But I love the episode and love you guys, you’re doing great!!
Valid. Guess it would have been better to say "at least one-way infatuation."?
princess bride classic take on a great couple wish it was longer but do it for montya and revenge
So excited that you guys did this movie!
