UNCENSORED ACCESS: Angel SERIES FINALE

I love Illyria I'm still upset by Fred but Illyria didn't really kill her Knox did and I know we only had a very few episodes to get to know her but watching her grieve for Wesley and her last line basically being I'm sad and I want to hurt people I can relate lol

I loved the “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” movie starring Kristy Swanson. It was one of my favorite films. I loved it so much that I didn’t want to watch the show because it was going to be an entirely new cast (they announced that when it was coming out). My Mimosa (nickname for my Mother) was so excited to watch the show that she kept trying to talk me into it. I was adamant about not watching it. I had just finished reading the first three novels in Anne Rice’s Vampire Chronicles so I was about Vampires, I just wasn’t interested in watching a show about “lesser vamps”, which is what I called the ones in the show. Then, I was about to walk out of the house to go hang with my friends & I heard a couple of jokes from the Scooby Gang, laughed a little but when I looked up, I saw Spike for the first time. He was the reason I sat down. And it was one of the best decisions of my life. After that, they would have reruns of the previous episodes on the weekends & I caught up just in time to sit with my Mimosa & watch the new episode. I also wasn’t a big fan of Angel but since my Mimosa decided to watch his show, I watched it, too. I regret nothing. And I really loved the fact that both Buffy & Angel end & then continue right where they left off in the comics which I’m still collecting. It was a long journey & I loved every minute of it & it makes me sad to think that we never got love stories that we wanted. To this day, when I think of the Wesley & Fred last moments, I cry. Especially the “Wesley… why can’t I stay…?” The show could’ve squeezed one more season out but unfortunately, that wasn’t in the cards. But I loved the show, regardless. And my favorites in the Buffyverse were Spike, Gunn, Anya, Lorne, Fred/Illyria, Groosalugg & every version of Willow. Still someone of the best characters that television blessed us with 🖤

I agree that on the whole Buffy was the stronger show, but Angel took some chances with stories and character growth that made it stand out. It let main characters be unlikable at moments and make bad choices, but keep trying. Maybe ultimately it was about people fighting the good fight, seeking redemption, even if they never got it. In that sense, I like the finale ending. They went out fighting against the big bad, outnumbered but not backing down. We don’t know if they won or even had a chance. Watching this now as a middle aged guy, the show hits me harder. But even with all that being said, Cordelia Chase deserved better.

Watching this after learning about Giles...😭 But yes, Cordelia, Fred, & Wesley. Amy Acker was brilliant in this role. The end was rushed. Emotional blue balls, yes. 😬

Joss was expecting another season (with the return of Fred). They got canceled with two episodes yet to film, so they scrambled. Angel's going to the dark side was supposed to be the cliffhanger.

Harmony was in the 2nd episode of Buffy all the way to the final episode of Angel.

There is (sort of) another season of Angel, but it’s in the form of comic books that are considered to be official canon. Angel, Spike, and Illyria live and even have more adventures with Buffy. Oh, amd Spike and Illyria even hook up. https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjl_3-z1oOSS3jpY741BKLAxM50MvoNU6xeyViRjsd4cFlNL3Og-euLNskmHWWIMlk7cPhlfK0m4hcxxTby_N93T5za7Yz9SG1sZR_zR_qdtvF_mPKLt7vX5b6uoRr0JTigZWodJMJQtf8/s1600/ATF+03+A.jpg

I agree with your thoughts completely! I watched Buffy as it aired, but minus the crossover episodes I couldn’t get into Angel. I watched it years later and I was pleasantly surprised by how good some of the themes and episodes were. In the end though, Buffy was definitely the better show to me. I find myself rewatching it often, but I haven’t gone back to Angel until you started reacting! Just FYI, since you’ve seen Firefly, Buffy and Angel, you have to complete the arc with Joss’s last show Dollhouse. It’s only two seasons, but it’s actually my favorite of the group. It explores some really interesting themes and had a lot to explore. It also has Amy Acker for Angel and Eliza Dushku from Buffy,

I got to meet James Marsters last month at Australias version of ComiCon, we call it SupaNova. He was so lovely! Got a photo with him, and he put his arms around my shoulders...i damn near passed out 😄

Yeah, it's been over 20 years and I'm also still mad about Fred. But damn Amy Acker is a great actress. I know a lot of people didn't like the ending, but honestly it worked for me and I think I've come to appreciate it more as I've gotten older. They went out on their own terms, and they really stressed the message that it's important to keep fighting, even against seemingly hopeless odds. Also, 100% agree that neither Buffy nor Angel could have continued to grow without splitting up into different shows. Glad you gave the show a chance and ended up enjoying it. These reactions were a lot of fun to watch!

Oh yeah.. the big F you ending Joss Whedon gave the network for cancelling the show.