FIRST TIME WATCHING: Andor S2E12

Andor leaving his sister behind and him not being able to deal with her likely death is what makes him who he is. He cannot leave others behind because he has survivors guilt. Throughout this series he constantly is the one survivor to make it out which only further drives him to save others. He survived Kenari, survived Aldani, survived the prison break, survived the theft of the tai fighter, and survived Gorman. He goes back for Marva, goes back to rescue Bix multiple times, went back to save Kleya, and goes back to support Jyn in rogue one. He could have left Scarif but he instead goes to find Jyn. He makes brutal decisions like killing the officer on Morlana 1 and killing the informant at the beginning of rogue one. But he cannot stomach being the only survivor. It gets worse and worse the more time goes on and in the end he doesn’t survive because he goes back for Jyn. The show starts with his search for his sister because that is his defining moment in his life that makes him who he is. The force healer mentioned him building a strength of character necessary over the course of his life.. this was it.

Hey! I've been watching your Andor clips on YouTube and I decided to subscribe to see your reactions in advance, because you only publish once a month on Yt. I am a little disappointed that we don’t see bits of the show, like other reaction Youtubers. I guess I'll stay on Youtube to see both your reaction and clips of the show at the same time! I'm guessing that you’re not able to edit the show by the time you release it on Patreon, but still disappointed since we have to pay for Patreon. Still apreaciate you! -From French Québec :)

man of steel is 100x better than superman 2025

Random thought here, but is your Star Wars A New Hope reaction the first proper movie reaction ever?

Superman is excellent. It also makes sense to watch Rogue One soon. It has a lot more impact after seeing Andor. A suggestion for Natmares - John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness. It's a tense, creepy film. You probably shouldn't watch it alone in the evening.

I agree with the Rougue One sentiments here. Push Superman back a week or do Rogue one next week

Please rewatch & react to Rogue One. It has so much more meaning. Thanks for the Andor series. Rebellions are built on hope

Now watch Rogue One again. With all the context of Andor, and knowing about the family he'll never meet and never knew about that he died for, you'll cry your fucking eyes out

Really hoping Weapons makes the Natmare polls this year!

What an amazing show. For me this episode really peaks with that last shot of Kleya stepping out in to the morning light echoing Luthen's monologue line from the first season. "I burn my decency for someone else’s future. I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I’ll never see." Not to mention the perfect juxtaposition of Dedra being trapped in darkness. Just real chef's kiss stuff.

Clone Wars reaction next 🫶🏼❤️🤭🎉💛🎈✨

Kleya getting to see Yavin, everything her and Luthen’s work helped build Dedra giving everything to the empire only to be fed to the same machine she served without a second thought Bix and the baby looking out at a sunset that Cassian is helping to save, for a family he’ll never be able to return to A beautiful conclusion to a great show, Star Wars still has the power, I believe!!!!

The final walk through the village and Cassian taking off just had me sobbing. This was the moment. The beginning of the mission that started this story that I've loved for over 40 years. I also loved the contrast between Yavin and the Empire. Yavin was full of warmth. People helping each other with work and training. Families eating and spending time together. The Empire was cold. Krennic watching the final stages of the Death Star being built. Dedra in prison isolated. This show has become my favorite show of the 2020's!

Listened to the closing credits music while your post show reaction summary, and boy oh boy did it fit well. I SO BADLY want a show about Mon Mothma being evacuated from Yavin as The Death Star approaches the planet in A New Hope next and where she goes to after that, pulling strings behind the scenes of The Rebellion while Luke, Han, and Leia are the heroes on the front lines having their own journeys. She could be joined by her cousin Vel, as well as Wil, Kleya, maybe even in a ship piloted by Rebel's pilot Hera Syndulla all there to protect her, as the mother of The Rebellion.

A little off topic, but mind if I recommend some new shows and movies to watch?

Thank you for watching this masterpiece, Nat. I really enjoyed your reactions and speculation on things. I teared up seeing his baby, knowing he never knew he was a dad when the Empire took his life, it hurts. This show has been really popular in the current political landscape, all over the world, especially after very recent events. It's such an important show right now, and will be talked about for decades. RIP Cassian and RIP Luthen. Heroes.

Gilroy said that Cassian never finding his sister and the hole that left within him with guilt and loss was his core driving force for so much of what he did over the series in rescuing people and not being willing to leave anyone behind.

Tony Gilroy, the showrunner, said a few months ago that they were never going to expand on what happened to Cassian's sister because she "much more valuable to me for Cassian as an absence." His desire to find his sister helped shape the character and established a motivation that helped kick off this story. http://hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/andor-why-andy-serkis-cassian-sister-never-returned-1236211328/

I think the idea was to explore his sister more and maybe have it revealed to be this big payoff where she ended or how she died. When the plan went from being 4 or 5 season show to being 2 seasons, I think that plotline just had no place in the condensed blueprint of episodes. Once they figured out it was 3 years of planning and production time between season 1 and 2, and it would cost X dollars to film 2 or 3 more seasons like that, it was just impossible to stick to the plan. One, Diego Luna would be like possibly 12-15 years older than how he looked in Rogue One; that would’ve been some re-touching or CGI to match. And, two, the budget for the full show would’ve been nuts and risked Disney cancelling it partway through the process of getting it to connect to the film. I think the show is excellent in spite of being forced to truncate what was originally envisioned. It’s just a shame the Andor sister story was sacrificed to get there.

Would love to see your Rogue One reaction again

This show has been by far the best Star Wars series created by Disney, I hope they do more like this going forward.

Should watch the suicide squad, peacemaker season 1 and creature commandos before superman. Not necessary but Starting a new universe, may as well watch it from the beginning. All were made by james gunn.

While it's completely understandable why the last 4 years of Andor had to be compressed into 1 season (Season 2 came out 9 years after Rogue One which it was suppose to be a prequel to). There are many story beats that were proposed but didn't make it into the final draft. Syril's corporate security friend from season 1 was suppose to have an arc where he ends up joining the rebellion after witnessing the events on Ferrix. Sculden and Perrin were suppose to have more developed story arcs that although left out we saw hints of it in season 2. Sculden was true in that he wanted to legitimize himself despite his reputation in season 1. The irony that the shady businessman was more trustworthy than Tay Kolma, Mon's childhood friend. Not only did he rub elbows with the elites in Coruscant, he was among other things a media mogul. During Mon's speech it was allegedly the ISB telling him to stop her broadcast to which he refused choosing to honor his Chandrilan alliance to her through marriage over all his social climbing. Perrin we saw a lot more of his partnership to Mon this season as her event planner vs him just being a bad husband in season 1. There was an idea that after Mon's speech she then spoke with Perrin to explain what she had been doing and her involvement with the rebellion, to which he responded saying he had already deduced it himself. The ISB had questioned him multiple times but he never gave her up, and although she never told him because she didn't trust him, she should've trusted him because he was her husband. They conclude that she needs to leave but he remains for their daughter. That scene at the end then has a different meaning if Perrin remains after losing his wife due to the conflict, watched by the Empire as bait for Mon, and Sculden's wife remains after Sculden is detained and disappeared after his act against them. It's a melancholy existence for them and follows the ongoing theme how those who gives themselves to the rebellion have to sacrifice everything including their relationship with their family and loved ones.

If you’re taking suggestions for Natmares I recommend interview with the vampire the AMC TV series. The film version from the 90s is also a great watch.

Kleya still could be Cassian's sister, but she also doesn't have to be. The important part of Cassian's sister is how she made him into someone who always jumps up to save people. It's in the end, why Cassian meets Jyn in Rogue One and decides to go on a suicide mission despite having no real reason to trust her. What actually happened to his sister doesn't really matter, at least not for the story told in Andor. I have to say, I think it's rather refreshing that Star Wars of all settings, where everyone is related to everyone else and the entire point of much of it is that all the important people are essentially one family, has a series where no one is related to anyone. Makes the universe bigger and feel more realistic. And in a gritty realistic show, the idea of his sister just vanishing with no real closure works pretty well.

This last episode has a hard task to try and "fix" what I'd consider a misstep in Rogue One with the moronic senators not willing to send the team to find the Death Star plans, and did a decent job of it. As far as their child goes, I really hope it doesn't end up being a character in the future. Bix and Cassian were fighting for a normal life for everyone else, so they don't need their child to become a hero. It's the same reason they didn't make Kleya Cassian's sister - it would have been lazy, trite writing; exactly the sort of thing that makes Episodes 7-9 so much weaker than the original trilogy and even the prequels.

Please try and avoid shows on Disney and Hulu!

Finishing The Bear AND watching Superman!? Golden week for me!! Hope you’re interested Peacemaker as well…

Let's go, I'm so looking forward to this Finalie... then I need to rematch Rouge One.. as always thanks for your great reactions..

Yes, now I can cancel my Disney+ subscription

Happy Monday Nat. Hope you had an awesome weekend too. Both our teams won! Whoohoo! 🥳😄 Really enjoyed the livestream on Friday. It was a lot of fun. Looking forward to Superman on Friday, and seeing what spooky movies you're going to poll 👻😊