FIRST TIME WATCHING: X-Men '97 S1E5

I’m so glad no one spoiled eps 5 for you. Welcome to the club. 😂

Oh and to answer your question about magneto yes he has the same backstory as a holocaust survivor who was already over humanity before he knew he was a mutant. And jean and the other xmen knew who cable was beforehand but it wasn't until Madeline/Jean looked into his eyes at that exact moment that she realized that was her son.

I'm sure some one else tackled it in the comments at some point, but Rogue had a run in with Captain Marvel, touched her and gained her ability to fly and her incredible strength. This happens in the comics too, but because the movies didn't have the rights to Captain Marvel she never had that confrontation and never got those powers.

This is your Aang and Zuko telling their story episode except with Zuko turning on Uncle emotion. Heartbreak and game changer.

Yo what the FUCK. I've not watched this show, I'm first-time watching this along with Nat. What the FUCK. I wanted half an hour of some ... cartoon, to have with a snack. I did not come here to cry. But also laugh, because Nat's on the other screen just losing it in 3 different directions. Best outro in a while. Yeah, I don't watch HotD at all, with or without Nat. Never cared for GoT, but glad I'm not missing anything lmao. (I don't go around complaining about the stuff I don't care for, she brought it up!) I don't even have any real nostalgia for the X-Men. In general, or the predecessor cartoon. I watched X-Men Evolution instead. Still, Rogue has always had it rough when it comes to love, and it always hits. But also, who wrote this episode, a lot of the lines in it are just really powerful. I'd have rewound the episode 20 times if not for the react video. Also also, I noticed one stark difference. I just about melted when Happy Nation started playing. I have no nostalgia for the X-Men show, but I DO have nostalgia for the 90's. ... Natalie does not. :D No mention of the song, at all. That too made me laugh quite a bit. But what the FUCK.

I know other people have said it but simply Gambit touches things and they can explode. He can like charge it up. Rogue absorbs energy/ memories through her skim. She held onto Captain Marvel (when she was a villain) for too long and kept her flight and strength forever. (This is like the most simple way to explain them lol)

I won't pretend to be an animation expert, but this episode of xmen 97 is one of the best episodes of animation i've ever seen. The only thing that has made a similar impact of me was a moment in season 2 of The Legend of Vox Machina(IYKYK) which is why I have been such a champion of you watching that show as well. I desperately what to see you watch The Legend of Vox Machina. On a previous poll it was neck and neck with xmen 97 with votes.

Might be one of my favorite reactions of yours haha, your face at the end is just like how the hell did this fun light hearted show just wreck me like this.

Easily one of the best tv episodes of the year and of any series period. Love the one liners and dialogue. Just doesn’t pull punches.

BTW The Watcher was in this episode.

Episode 5 is an EVENT. Scott (Cyclops) getting mad at the reporters, Remy (Gambit) third-wheeling to Anna (Rogue) & Erik (Magneto), seeing Genosha, first seeing Kurt (Nightcrawler) and Emma Frost, Jean kissing Logan, Scott & Jean’s argument, Nathan (Cable) telling Madelyne he’s sorry he couldn’t stop the destruction of Genosha from happening right before it happens, and both Erik & Remy gone

This episode is so much all at once! The internal drama that is the X-Men, Madelyn Prior and Cable meeting, the ending cutting to black with Rogue's final line of the episode! Her being able to finally touch the man she loves but not being able to feel him. I decided to watch this episode on release in the gym... safe to say that was not a good idea lol!

When the X-Men cartoon debuted the comics hadn't revealed Magneto's real name, but Xavier knew him as “Magnus.” It wasn’t until some time around the mid 90s that the comics revealed his name as “Erik Lensherr,” which may or may not have been an alias. Erik was a victim of the Holocaust, but it was never explicitly stated if he was Jewish or Slavic or Roma or something else. Around 2010, the canonical origin of Magneto was revealed in the comics, and Magneto’s REAL real name was revealed to be Max Eisenhart, and that he was a Romani Jewish survivor of the holocaust The animated series reconciled the name changes by making him “Erik ‘Magnus’ Lensherr” - Magnus being the name he went by when he met Xavier, hence why Xavier called him that the most. And definitely includes his experience in Auschwitz. Idk if you caught it but when he’s assessing the destruction of Genosha, before throwing the train, you see a quick flash of his time in the camps. Thats what made him snap

That's not a fair comparaison Nat, you just watch the "Red Wedding" of X-Men TAS

I'm still not over episode 5 😭😓🤕

I told you episode 5 was an event. I think it's crazy just how much happens in 5 half hour episodes... but it's easier to get away with stuff like that in animation than live action. But despite the medium being inherently less realistic, and despite ten million crazy things happening, you're able to get deeply invested in the characters. I was not ready for this episode either... had to stop watching, go to my wife and explain everything that happened, and why I was in tears over a cartoon.

Man watching a holocaust survivor beat the fuck out of a symbol of oppression, with a train, is a hell of a sight.

Only the second time I’ve fully rewatched the series but I’m actually shook at how much this episode still made me feel 😅 like it almost felt even worse than the first time because i knew… when Jean and Maddy got the psychic shock and that eerie vocal music kicked in during Rogue and Magneto’s dance I felt straight SICK!!! 😭😭😭 And it was set up so perfectly. Jean’s whole premonition in episode 2 is about this. The thousands of graves, the ghost of Cable running towards her, the gigantic sentinels eyes - and i only noticed when watching this episode and having a Memento style flashback that music playing during Jeans vision is the same eerie vocals from when Rogue and Erik are dancing but even spookier - but it still managed to have the suddenness, shock and terror of a real life terror attack 🙁 I love this show dude

This show is so damn good ugh and Rogue's power is the same as in the movies any mutant or person she touches she gets their gifts or knowledge for a short while, the reason she can fly and has super strength is cause Mystique her adopted mom forced her to battle Captain marvel and hold onto her for too long which put Captain marvel in a coma, giving Rogue her flying and super strength permanently. Gambits power is charged kinetic energy any object he has he can charge it to explode

Seeing this one for the second time... and I'm still crying.

"woooo im bout make a name for myself here"😎 (if u know... u know)

I love this episode so much as there's an absolute ton of development with Scott, Jean, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Beast flirting, the politics stuff, The Watcher!! And then all of it is overshadowed by that sudden intrusion of violence, even in a world of violence. It's so raw. You're left reeling with those final scenes filling your mind, but there was so much more. Such good TV!

her son was cable from Deadpool 2 he is Nathan summers in the future

Happy Tuesday Nat. After last week's kinda fun filler episode, they threw us back into the main plot with a bang! Damn! The X-Men movies brilliantly blended action, story and emotion so well, and this show manages to do that amazingly well too. I think it's just as well you gave us a week to process it all. Thanks for your reaction today Nat 💛

For context rogues power is to absorb the life energy and memories of the people she touches, she used to be a villain that fought against the x-men with her adoptive mother mystique. The reason she can fly and has super strength is because she once got into a fight with Carol Danvers and absorbed her power permanently. Gambits power is to bring anything he touches to its full energy potential. He mostly does this by touching the object and turning it into a bomb. Similar to rexplode from invincible.

I'm still struggling with this series, not sure if it's because we've jumped in mid way through a story ark. I'll keep watching as I enjoy Nat reactions anyway lol..

1.) Remy and Rogue have flirted several times in the original cartoon. They even kissed once in the season 2 finale when they thought they were gonna die. They survived that ordeal, but nothing ever really flourished because Rogue never wanted to label them like Remy said. While she would call him “swamp rat,” Logan would also call him “gumbo” and “Cajun”. Remy’s last words were also his battle taunt/catchphrase. 2.) Rogue’s stepmom who was actually Mystique was also Kurt’s biological mother. That’s something that was touched upon in season 4 which was also Kurt’s debut in the cartoon. 3.) In the same season, his first encounter was specifically with Remy, Rogue, and Wolverine during their adventure in the Alps. He was a member of a Chapel in Germany, and through this first encounter he helped Logan find faith. Adrian Hough got to voice Kurt again. 4.) The place Magneto taught her from was called Savage Land. It was introduced in season 2. He found it at one point and establish it as his first mutant sanctuary before he worked on Asteroid M. 5.) The song they played when Rogue and Magneto were dancing was Happy Nation performed by the Swedish pop group Ace of Base. I first heard of them through a song called The Sign, and not too long ago, I also heard their song Don’t Turn Around playing on KOST 103.5. Happy Nation pretty much describes this scenario quite well given that Genosha is that nation and Magneto is the leader of his own Brotherhood. 6.) Retcon spotted. It’s regarding Sebastian Shaw. You met a version of him in First Class portrayed by Kevin Bacon. In the fourth season, he and his fellow Inner Circle members including Emma Frost attempted to manipulate Jean (or Madelyne?) so they can also by extension control the Phoenix. The whole thing backfired, and the last thing Shaw said before escaping was that the Inner Circle would have their revenge. Now here they are. They returned and are pretty much acting like nothing happened. 7.) Speaking of First Class, you may also remember Moira MacTaggert and Sean Kassidy/Banshee. The cartoon version of Moira also dated Charles at one point, but they eventually broke up and she ended up marrying Sean. The movie version of him never even had feelings for Moira, but he does share his screeching ability with his cartoon counterpart. 8.) What’s ironic is that Remy’s original voice actor returned in the same episode his character died. In the 90’s, Remy was voiced by Chris Potter. They brought him back, but now he voices Nathan Summers/Cable. And if you’re wondering what happened to Nathan’s original voice actor, they already brought him back for a different role. Lawrence Bayne voiced X-ecutioner.