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November 2, 2022

Mean Socials Fix

NOTE: This bug has now been fully fixed as of Jan. 17th's patch and the mod is no longer needed. The download link has been removed.


This mod will stop Sims from constantly choosing to do autonomous mean socials in every single conversation.


What was wrong and how does this fix it?

Mean interactions test a number of things to see if it's appropriate for a Sim to perform it. Stuff like their current mood, their traits, and how the conversation is going. One of the things it tests is whether or not the Sim has the "Technophobe" lifestyle from the Snowy Escape expansion pack; if they do, then the game allows them to autonomous target Servos with mean interactions and vice versa, regardless of any other factors.

In a recent patch, Maxis added the Loyal trait, and with it they another new condition that checks to make sure that Sims will not autonomously do mean socials that target their friends. To accomplish this, they added a new test to the side of every existing test. In all others cases, this was fine, but in the case of the Technophobe test, there is a slight problem. If you do not have Snowy Escape, the Technophobe test is empty, so instead of adding a side condition, the Loyal test is now the only condition needed to pass. Thus, Sims who do not have the Loyal trait are always allowed to perform mean socials autonomously, and even Sims who do have it will do it to everyone they aren't already friends with. 

I bundled a test set with the same ID as the Technophobe test in this package. It will take the place of the original one, and serve its intended purpose in games without the Snowy Escape pack. If you don't have Snowy Escape, the test will always fail and Sims will need to pass one of the other tests in order to be mean without your permission. If you do have Snowy Escape, then you should not install this mod, because you won't experience this bug.

Comments (3)

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Sweetest Pie · February 17, 2023

I do also have snowy escape.

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Sweetest Pie · February 17, 2023

So I’m currently experiencing this bug. At first I perceived it as an issue caused by my mods but after some research, I learned it was a game issue. My sims automatically perform mean, mischievous & funny interactions with each other & if I disable the autonomy of any of them then they will autonomously do whatever is available between the three. They never perform friendly interactions with each other. As you can imagine this is ruining the relationship between my sims. Between festering grudges & hurt sentiments, the relationship between my household sims result in a red bar. I’ve disabled mean & mischievous interactions but now my sims only do funny interactions which still ruins their relationship. I was hoping to receive some help with this.

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Kuttoe · February 17, 2023

This bug was patched out already and the code has changed in such a way that my previous fix would now do nothing. If you have Snowy Escape installed, it would do nothing anyway.