Bonus Episode 258: MW4 DMZ Is Fool's Gold: Why It Won't Last

MW4's DMZ is out in early access and getting good reviews. We think it's shallow and won't hold people once multiplayer and Warzone come out.

We talk about IceManIsaac finishing the story in five hours, the Possum perk and the NICKMERCS self-revive clip, the day-one server crash, the $90K gun, whether it's worth $70, and DMZ vs Zombies. We also compare it to Escape from Tarkov and Arc Raiders.

0:00 - Intro: iodized salt & goiters

4:34 - Patreon hangout: trivia night Saturday

6:57 - Topic requests & the 9 games that shaped us

7:59 - RIP BioWare?

9:06 - Veilguard vs Pathfinder

11:18 - Mass Effect fallout

12:03 - We're done with War Dogs

14:16 - DMZ is out

16:03 - IceManIsaac beat the story in 5 hours

19:14 - "Third mode gold"? That's fool's gold

21:12 - Civic vs Ferrari: why the DMZ hype

23:22 - Is it fair to judge DMZ as an extraction shooter?

27:38 - Tarkov wipe day two vs DMZ day two

29:28 - PvP isn't core to DMZ

30:25 - The bosses are too easy

33:48 - Too many ways to dodge PvP

42:17 - Way too easy: the hand-holding

46:42 - Everything's spoiled on day one

47:51 - Credit where due: better than DMZ 1

49:21 - DMZ doesn't offer anything unique

53:47 - Day-one server crash ate loot

57:41 - Critics: "could be a standalone game"

1:00:18 - What people actually like

1:02:01 - The story's done in 5 hours

1:03:01 - The Possum perk

1:04:15 - NICKMERCS' Possum comeback

1:06:46 - The "try again" shooter

1:09:56 - Arguing with Claude's debate angle

1:12:11 - No real solo queue

1:16:15 - Money sinks & the $90K gun

1:19:04 - The McRibeye

1:21:06 - Is DMZ worth $70?

1:22:02 - Russia map in Season 2

1:24:19 - DMZ vs Zombies

1:27:18 - "Let go of my hand"

1:28:54 - Wrap-up & trivia night