Doctor Who 2x05 Rise of the Cybermen | Full Reaction

The Cybermen are one of the Trio of classic villains. That's 2 down 1 to go. They've been my favourite as often as the Daleks and the other one(s) In Nu Who, this era they're literally the brain in a Robot body, I prefer the earlier frankenstein like ones, some were even seen being made which was a longer, in some ways more harrowing medical process. The designs change frequently however these Cybermen are not canonical Cybermen, the originals were a seperate race to humans, more details on that later so I'll shut up for now. :)

Hey so late comment but I don’t think Rose was being particularly bad here? All she did was laugh at the Doctor and Mickey being stupid. She was already in a giddy mood it made sense why she found the situation funny. She clearly still cares about him, and even later expresses how she takes him for granted. The way she full on hugged Ricky should be enough to show she does still care about him. Also her reaction to her parents is understandable as well. It may be easy to see the difference because we’re watching a show, but think of yourself in an alternate universe where people you know are there. You’d probably accidentally talk to them like you knew them. I know if I saw my dad in an alternate universe I would slip and act too casual around him. Overall I don’t really agree that Rose is acting selfish or wrong here. Her job is not to babysit Mickey and the only thing she did in this episode was laugh at one situation, and last episode they got along perfectly. The Doctor is more responsible for forgetting about Mickey but he doesn’t seem to get any of the flack, it’s mostly Rose who gets it, which isn’t really fair. Just my opinion lol. Also why is it a good thing that Mickey went to visit his grandma…but not Rose with her father? Mickey could’ve literally been in major trouble by doing what he did. Unlike Rose he never checked if he existed in this universe. So he easily could’ve walked in on another version of himself with his grandma. Same kind of behavior as Rose but again that’s different somehow? I’m just a little confused lol. Sorry to keep adding to this lol but she didn’t recognize the plastic Mickey in episode 1 because she was distracted with the doctor stuff and having her job literally blown up. She rightly starts crying when she figured out that wasn’t him and scolds the doctor for not caring about him. She only leaves when she finds out the tardis can time travel, meaning it wouldn’t be that long until she came back. She was only a year late again because the Doctor landed wrong.

I so agree with you about Mickey in the first episode being made of plastic and clearly a duplicate, but Rose didn't even realize. I think Mickey's character arc has been really interesting. In episode one he was terrified at the thought of going with the Doctor. He was literally cowering in the corner. Then he was a little braver, and wanted to help but told the Doctor he was still too scared, and could the Doctor pretend he isn't allowed to travel with them to save him the embarrassment of admitting he is scared in front of Rose. By the start of season 2, he's now calling them with tips about alien activity. He's the "man with the plan" but also the "tin dog." He still shows fear (when the rats fall on him) but he's facing his fear. By the end of that episode he is ready to take on a challenge and see the universe. But how sad that he's been treated like the third wheel. Maybe he can learn how to be more assertive from Ricky?

Hi Julie The Cybermen first appeared in the whoniverse in 1966 in a story called The Tenth Planet and was broadcast over 4 episodes of 20 to 25 mins. This story marked the departure of William Hartnell from the show due to his failing health, and the first regeneration of The Doctor from William Hartnells version to Patrick Troughtons as the 2nd Doctor.

One of my favorite aspects of DW is how an idea that appears as a throwaway will suddenly come into focus and change the whole narrative. Example: Ricky & Mickey. In Series One, an amusing gag at the expense of a secondary character. In Series Two - BOOM! An examination of parallel worlds. Questions abound! Did the Doctor know about Ricky? Was he somehow aware of the parallel Cyber-world? Is there a version of Mickey/Ricky in every parallel world? Are there Cybermen in every parallel world, and is Mickey/Ricky fighting in all of them? All of this from one silly little joke in Series One. *Golf clap* Well done, writers.

Great reaction! Can't wait for the next episode. I always feel bad for Mickey and I agree with Rose when she talks to Jackie I always cringe a little, like I love you Rose but come on you should know by now. I'm glad you got on the cybermen. ❤️

By the way, if you’ve ever watched Star Trek Next Generation you may be familiar with the Borg - a society of cybernetically enhanced humans bent on converting others. They were in fact inspired by the original Cybermen from Doctor Who.

Glad you recognized the Cybermen from that exhibit in the Dalek episode! Like the Daleks, they have their origins way back in the 1960s with the first Doctor, but unlike the Daleks they tend to “evolve” and develop in design. Their original incarnation I feel was much creepier, as they seemed a little less robotic with clearly human limbs, and an eerie mechanical sing-song voice. They very much feed into body horror and the fear that as we “enhance” ourselves through prosthetics and reliance on AI we lose our humanity. In a sense, they are the opposite of Daleks, who are extreme emotion - mainly pure hate and fear, and all about racial purity. Essentially Nazis. Cybermen divest themselves of all emotion, and are pure logic to the extreme, and rather than kill everyone else want to convert (“upgrade”) all others to become like them in a soulless utopia. Essentially Communists. So looking forward to part two!

First Mickey, now Ricky, maybe we'll meet a Vicky one day! Completely off topic but the Patreon app just updated to a new UI and I really don't like it (I thought they had got rid of messages for a minute as they're now hidden away).

I agree that rose in this episode is acting pretty selfishly and rash. I like that her character is flawed, though. However, I hate the way micky is treated. They really do take him for granted

Juliet, a question. The underground/activist/hero mickey in this story is called rickey. 9 used to purposely call mickey rickey. Coincidence? Or is there a greater intelligence at work here? I mean, greater than the Doctor.

I'm really impressed you remembered the cyberman head from the dalek episode. The cybermen are iconic doctor who monsters. I wouldn't say they compare to the daleks, but they are definitely up there. It's kind of funny that Mickey is called Rickey in this universe because the 9th doctor used to call him Rickey.

The Doctor's life expectancy is a great question. The answer, like much in Who is complicated. 🤣 It greatly depends on how long each generation lasts for. It was established during Classic that Timelords do have a limit to the number of times they can regenerate. The Doctor is currently about three quarters the way through their cycle. Each cycle could potentially last much longer than any human lives for. Also, the figure of The Doctors age has changed a bit over the years. What we established in the last series is they are in the early 900's.

Can't get it to play..

Hey jules! Do you have the edited YouTube version please? I dont see a link :)

No YouTube edit? (I can watch the full one I'm just curious)

Some of my favorites are the two parters. I like the cybermen better than the daleks...still goofey but their voices arent as annoying and their weapons dont include toilet plungers paint rollers.

Much like the Daleks, the Cybermen have a long history in Who. But unlike the Daleks they have changed in appearance a number of times during their depictions. It will fun to see you enjoy their first NuWho appearance.

WEEEEE!! I'm so excited, evening once again sorted watching along with you. So happy to see your love for Doccy Who growing! <3