Doctor Who 8x7 Kill The Moon

Some background on The Meanie Doctor. The first actor way back in 1963 played the role reflecting the paternal authority figure of the attitudes of the times, such to say he was a bit severe. He softened as the times changed. In the 1980s the Sixth Doctor appeared and the writers decided to experiment and give him back that severity. It was quite unpopular from the outset, significantly due to his immediate post regenerative state. Gripped by memory loss and trauma he was paranoid and hostile to the companion and literally gripped her. To be clear he tried to strangle her. The remarkable Steven Moffat has long had a fascination with both dark leads and trying to make the mistakes of the past fit within story logic. And so we get Capaldi's Doc who seems at times cold, ugly and brutal. However Moffat does make good on his challenges. You've seen how the colder incarnation allows him to play with themes of loneliness of old age. And then there's Clara. She's far exceeding her time with Eleven to become a character who's confident, singularly minded, quite personality powerful. Their unique dynamic will continue. And the, what's the word, the synergy of them, their togetherness changes both in radical ways making both more interesting. This makes for more than a few fan favourite scenes. The presence of Danny Pink in his role as a soldier also draws on the past. Almost every incarnation of The Doctor has shown a strong dislike for military people. The exception is the Third. To be concise he had a number of people, UNIT, who might fit description of companion who were army, especially Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart, Kates father, who we could call one of his best friends despite their constant biting heads. (And if you ever fancy a classic Doctor session, the Third is highly addictive) All to say Soldier Danny is part of Steven Moffats challenge to himself to explore the Doctor's lack of empathy for anyone military, and the contradictions that come with being a friend to UNIT.

I think this is one of those episodes where there are some good points but perhaps could have been executed a bit differently which is where I think the mixed reactions stem from, I like the Clara/Peter version of the Doctor dynamic, I really enjoy them antagonising each other lol Kinda surprised Doctors and companions don't have more fights! I just think the point he was trying to make could have been done without the Doctor just going 'Right, I'm off' lol So all that was a good idea and the discussion of just how much should the Doctor help in humanity's cause is a great rabbit hole to go down just think even for Peter's Doctor him just bouncing is a bit out of character. Regarding the egg part, I mean yes it's a bit weak but if you started hating on Who episodes with weak science you have no show lol Also, can we give some props to 'I'll hit you so hard you'll regenerate' lol What a line.

seen every single episode or new and old who. except i have never seen this one because when i tried in the past i just cant it was so boring. THIS is the first time me watching it lol

Ok lets address the moon is an egg. This is fine. You just need your Who lore. Forget our actual real moon, thats not like Who. In Who lore the moon is very mysterious, it arrived in our solar system from parts unknown. It appeared to be on a direct collision course with Earth, this prompted the inhabitants at the time, namely the Silurians to prepare for the worst and they went into forced hibernation beneath the surface and tried to preserve the animal life by making huge space arks (The Silurians, Hungry Earth/Cold Blood, Dinosaurs on a Space Ship). But then instead of actually hitting, the moon just parked itself into a perfect orbit round Earth. That it turned out to be an egg all this time is the least weird thing about it. So when it comes to anyone who dismisses this episode purely on the 'science' of the moon being wrong, needs to go stick their head in a bucket of Who lore!

I will put my hands up and say that I am a ‘kill the moon’ hater but that’s okay, you can’t love every episode of something. When it takes over 100 episodes to get to something I dislike about New Who that truly shows how great it is

This episode gets hated on too much imo. I know people complain about the the political subtext (which I won't get into) and the science not holding up, but there are so many other instances of poorly implemented science in this show that make the complaints in this episode seem unfair to me. Anyways, the meat of the episode is the conflict between Clara and the Doctor, which I absolutely adore.

I know I’m in the minority here but I LOVE this episode! There’s often a theme about the companions changing or becoming more like the Doctor, but I think with Clara that theme is explored so much more and in such an interesting way. The Doctor seemed to genuinely believe Clara would want to make that decision for herself and saw it as a sign of respect to let her do that. But obviously for her it was traumatising. I think it shows the huge difference between the Doctor and his companions. Clara often tries to be equal to the Doctor and maybe she got to see that’s not possible. The moon being an egg is a silly concept but I love Doctor Who for its silliness so I don’t mind! I also think lots of people hate this one because they see it as an anti abortion metaphor which I don’t think it is at all, I think people just get hung up on the fact that it’s an egg. This is a series I didn’t like much when I first watched it, but the more I rewatch the more I enjoy it!

i think you could place that scene at the end in any episode and it would make it a good episode, so by that virtue, this is a good episode. their performances!! wow

Kill the Moon is a tricky one. It raises some interesting ideas but the science is particularly dodgy. It also gets into some really uncomfortable character dynamics and leads to that phenomenal scene between Clara and the Doctor at the end. I agree that 12 is by far the least user-friendly of the Nu-Who Doctors. Some of the classic Doctors could also be very difficult though.

I can see why it was so controversial, and it might be my least favourite of the season. A lot of people saw it as an allegory for the abortion debate, for one. There's also how even by the standards of the show it doesn't make any sense when it comes to space, physics, biology... how any of that actually works. Plus there's the Doctor just leaving and questions over what he wanted to achieve, even if you found it fascinating to see that side of him. Having all be alright after all because the creature could conveniently lay an egg the same size just after hatching also seemed weak and out of nowhere.