The Vampire Diaries - S02E13|♡Uncut Reaction &Review ♡

I think you are right and the word manipulating is a bit strong, but it is something similar. Elena is starting to be very aware of the effect she has on Damon and that he is willing to do things he normally wouldn't, if she is the one that asks him. She is using that knowledge to take countermeasures against Damon's impulses; in this case to save Tyler. Its an interesting dynamic. Elena's most prominent characteristic is her empathy and compassion, which is usually a very innocent trait, but she is instrumentalizing it for an agenda. A very selfless and helpful agenda, but an agenda nonetheless.

The track Selection is great for this episode, when Elena and Damon talk after Damon turns down Andie...You see Elena looking at Damon prior to him coming over, and the way she starts looking at him while he is there. "Stay" by Hurts My whole life waiting for the right time To tell you how I feel. Know I try to tell you that I need you. Here I am without you. I feel so lost but what can I do? 'Cause I know this love seems real But I don't know how to feel. We say goodbye in the pouring rain And I break down as you walk away. Stay, stay. 'Cause all my life I've felt this way But I could never find the words to say Stay, stay. Alright, everything is alright Since you came along And before you I had nowhere to run to Nothing to hold on to I came so close to giving it up. And I wonder if you know How it feels to let you go? You say goodbye in the pouring rain And I break down as you walk away. Stay, stay. 'Cause all my life I've felt this way But I could never find the words to say Stay, stay. So change your mind And say you're mine. Don't leave tonight Stay. Say goodbye in the pouring rain And I break down as you walk away. Stay, stay. 'Cause all my life I've felt this way But I could never find the words to say Stay, stay. Stay with me, stay with me, Stay with me, stay with me, Stay, stay, stay, stay with me.

We went on a ride with Damon's character last episode, but I think this might be the best/most interesting Damon episode. His rejection of Andie, only for her to be in his bathtub in the end is truly fascinating. He seems genuinely afraid of what he might do the women in his life. Authenticity is another thing that's really important to him. You could see how difficult it is to be anything other than who he is. He thinks he knows who he is and wears it proudly. But when outside influences starts seeping it, changing who he thinks he is naturally, it literally eats him up inside. Damon might hide from his own feelings, or mask them, but he doesn't pretend to be anyone but himself - an admirable but dangerous trait. Can Damon organically change who he is, rather than have it come from an external force? Will that help with his internal fight? Maybe that is why he says he misses being human. He misses being able to be a "good guy" without it being this uphill battle. Just my two cents.

Stefan and Caroline scenes... I love them so much!

Rewatching, I actually like the Martin witches. I didn't hate them before. Now, I understand their role. They're not "evil". They're doing all this for a reason. And I like Jonas being so wise about witches and just about his business. I like that in a character.

I totally agree with what you're saying about Elena - she isn't manipulating Damon per se. It's like she's trying to use her influence on him to make him "behave" and that's not really the way to go about it. I liked Andie's explanation of it much better. He's changing (slowly) because love changes the way we see the world. But it's not going to happen overnight and Elena shouldn't try to push him or "change" him in that way. It has to be organic. Tyler pissed me off so much in this episode. I get that he was confused, I get that he may have thought both Stefan and Caroline were liars who were just trying to manipulate him. But it would have taken absolutely nothing for him to get Stefan to give him the phone, assure Jules he was fine, and tell her to come to the house with Caroline. Who knows if Jules would have done it, but I would have had more respect for Tyler. He was such a punk in this episode. Like, hesitating to save/help Caroline after everything she did for him - grr!!! When it comes to John and Katherine. I think Katherine was trying to kill him because he was a "loose end". And she cut off his fingers because it was the quickest way to get his ring off. :)

I know it seems very cut and dry watching the episode but when you think about it logically tyler really is not at fault. Yes caroline said she risked her life to be with tyler during the transition but she also said she was the only vampire and kept his uncle's death from him so he is perfectly fine to question her motives to whether he can trust her being she has already been proven a liar about her being the only vampire and have yet to be proven correct with the whole werewolf can kill a vampire. Jules really isn't in the wrong either about how she went about getting tyler back, she got a phone call from tyler where he yelled help and was instantly hung up so he obviously has been taken and going to his house under what information was gathered isn't very smart because who's to say they are not there and her going there gets tyler killed so taking caroline was definitely the right move for her. Arrow was just being a dick nothing to add to his case lol.

I didn't care for what Elena was trying to do because if you know Damon he doesn't like being told what to do.

Again, Fuck Jules. She need to mind her business.

I believe Katherine cut off his fingers and stabbed him because he'd already done what she needed him to do which was get rid of the tomb vampires.

Oh dear...Tyler. That is what happens when you are forced to lie to your friends, keeping secret that when they come out from the mouth of someone that isn’t a friend and has her own agenda, create a sense of betrayal and mistrust. Jules and Brady have their own agenda which is enlarge their pack and for sure they are no friends to our Mystic Falls heterogeneous circle of friends. “Divide et impera” divide and rules, it is a matter of power. This particular pack of werewolves wants to expand, pledge loyalty to their own “honor and loyalty”, they don’t have a conflict of conscience when they kill humans and they rip humans in pieces and are driven by vampire loathing. It is an allegory for the concept of race preservation and hatred of diversity. I don’t believe it is casual that the Lockwood are written to have werewolf genes; the most powerful family of founders that became richer during the war, by killing vampire and gaining their properties. Obviously the vampire weren’t local and the founders’ families hated them, branding them as monsters with no redeeming qualities, to be exterminated on site, as any sympathizer. Sounds familiar? Another layer to add to this show. Anyway Tyler found himself right in the middle of all of that. But who is the one nice person that gets the bitter end of the rope when the trail of lie blows in everybody’s face, poor sweet Caroline. I hated what they did to her and Tyler hesitance is very disappointing. It is true that he is new to this world of craziness and danger and he is confused and wants to get help from people like him, but still, after all she did for him! Stefan sweetness and thoughtfulness towards Caroline here is priceless. I adore the way he is with her. And it was so good to see the three friends coming together again in support of Caroline, this character deserve all the love of the world. Has anybody else notice that in this episode Elena’s body language towards Damon changed, she looks at him differently and touches him much more than usual and agrees with him. Talking about distraction, the shower scene!!!....and the bath scene!!! I must say the shirtless Stefan or semi-naked Damon, it’s an eye candy and to top that, Ian in regard of on screen kisses, is second to none. Damon has a new distraction, “you can booty call me anytime” Andy, is he going to kill her? She is not a stranger in the middle of the street passing by, she is a friend of Jenna, a television reporter, a successful lady and we know that Damon likes this type of woman and I feel he didn’t wanted to have anything to do with her at the beginning but he changed his mind, he needs to talk with someone, to have a distraction in his life, the Rose thing really mess up with his head. And yes he does feel guilty. But he isn’t good at pretending to be who is not, like Stefan does, and because of Stefan, Elena thinks that is the norm, the standard to achieve and it’s not, Stefan is repressing his nature and we’ve seen what happens when his nature resurface, he can handle it much worse then Damon does. That is the main difference between the two brothers and Elena has a false sense of norm. I really enjoy your reactions, are clever and genuine, and surely not perfect because you are never boring.😁 Sharing this with you is a pleasure. I'll look forward to the next.

John came back again and again brought confusion to the lives of other characters. Remarkably, it was with Damon that he had conversations about trusting and saving Elena. He also gave him the way to kill the Original. Although, on John's side, Damon is the last person to be trusted with this. It made more sense to discuss all this with Stefan, a more balanced and sane human/vampire. Besides, Stefan is Elena's boyfriend, after all. I think I can guess why John did it this way, but I'll talk about it in the next episodes, so as not to make spoilers. And Damon, in turn, is again forced to Express his feelings to another person, whom he practically does not know. Very sad. Sofie, I love your reactions. And I really liked this one. It's interesting to know your thoughts. So don't worry about talking too much. Everything was fine. I look forward to the next episode.

Poor Caroline. I don't understand Jules's behavior either. It seems like she really wants to help Tyler. But the methods she chooses to do this are too strange, cruel, and illogical. What had Caroline done to her? Why torment her? On the contrary, she was with Tyler at this terrible moment in his life, risking her life. Damon killed Mason, and Stefan kind of helped him do it. Why didn't she deal with them directly? Didn't have the guts? Kidnapping and abusing Caroline was a cowardly and despicable act. After that, I'm not surprised that Tyler was confused and didn't know what to do. On the one hand, Caroline, who he liked and who helped him in everything, easing his suffering. On the other hand, Jules is a werewolf, Mason's girlfriend, who is theoretically the most capable of understanding him right now. And she also says that everything that happened to Caroline was a lie. And he's just a schoolboy who didn't know anything about werewolves and vampires until a few days ago, who had to go through a terrible transformation into a wolf against his will. And who should he trust? I don't know what I would have done in his place.

I don't think Elena manipulated Damon on purpose. Remember season 1 episode 11 when Lexi's boyfriend tried to kill Damon? Elena did something similar. She also pointed out the guy's feelings, telling him to be better than this. Now she's trying to save Tyler. Put yourself in her shoes. If someone told you openly that they wanted to kill your friend, someone you've known since childhood, what would you do? It seems natural to me that Elena is trying to talk Damon out of killing her friend, even if it's a manipulation.