BONUS: The Octopus Murders feat. Christian Hansen & Zachary Treitz

Louisvillians, represent!

Just listening to this way late but it’s wild seeing this CovertAction Magazine article accusing these filmmakers of burning and misrepresenting their sources: https://covertactionmagazine.com/2024/03/11/netflix-series-on-the-octopus-murders-continues-cover-up-of-reporters-death-and-cia-crimes-he-threatened-to-expose/

Michael Ruppert was there first, as usual… https://www.copvcia.com/free/pandora/052401_promis.html

RFK Jr's advocacy work in native communities has the stink of Cabazon about it. As a native person, this seeding of aboriginal activism by parapolitical actors is very troubling to me.

Just watched. These guys hang out information, in a limited way, then discredit it by saying “everyone in this story is insane”. In conversation, they appear incoherent, to the point of parody. Why would CTH have them on. Unless…?

Idk why people are whining these guys were on both chapo and TA, I wouldn’t have heard of the series if not and on both shows they drop some pretty crazy stuff that didn’t make it into the doc. Dug it, thanks boys.

I'm on episode 3 and Robert Altman just appeared on the Pepe Silva string board. It's like this whole show came from Will's brain.

This is Robert Stack erasure

Really wish Will had made it to episode 3 so that he’d have seen Robert Booth Nichols appearing in Segal’s Under Siege. Almost feels too perfectly tailored for Chapo

I thought Will was joking about Canada asking the US for help to translate Promis into French. Amazing!

I'm disappointed at the complete lack of references to Cthulhu... Netflix's Yellow King journalists never mentioned how similar an octopus looks to Cthulhu... Or, is all that just beneath your comedy stylings...? ;-)

"A way of taking simple electric energy to create a projectile that is damaging" is a pretty hilarious way to describe a railgun when I'm pretty sure 90% of the audience has played Armored Core 6 or, at the very least, know the MAC gun from Halo.

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The Castolaro case is the real leftist Qanon, because, regardless of its ins and outs, the fun lies in chucking around Italian names and three-letter acronyms with the guys. This is like my 10th hour of Octopus-related podcast content, and I am not one bit wiser as to what it's all about or why it's important. Excited to see the Netflix doc!

I’m getting tired of hearing from these guys - I’m sure they did a great job

love it when the schizo voices in my head decide to collaborate keep it up boys👍

Hell yeah dude. Thanks boys

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I hope Noah writes more conspiracy blogs on Defector. Some people in the comments were so upset about that one lol

It has been a year or so since I turned my liberal father onto chapo.. his interest has ebbed and flowed, mostly he’s listened to clips I’ve sent him. He enjoys the interviews, but being almost seventy, he struggles with understanding the millennial slang and inside jokes… the chapo dialect is tough for him. Then he found hell of presidents and loved it. He finished the octopus doc last night and texted to let me that he would call to discuss today…. Only to text me again at 10 am to inform me that he just listened to this, the new chapo trap house, with his coffee. I’m like a proud father. My dad beat me to the new chapo. There may be hope after all, but probably not

is this the new episode ? :/

There are a couple of really annoying things about this interview and Netflix documentary series . They start off pretending that they are the first people to look into the octopus story, when several books have been written about the subject. It’s also pretty annoying that their way into the story is to make it about the filmmakers themselves and their “obsession “. Thats just lazy. The Errol Morris style re-creations are pretty badly done. one of the most embarrassing examples of this are the stupid bowling alley B roll shots at the end. And finally, it would appear that the trashing of hamilton, the guy who invented promis software, seems to be motivated by the fact that he wouldn’t go in front of the camera camera for this documentary. I was let down. There’s a much better discussion of this in the Ghost Stories For The End Of The World podcast. This is some Hardy boys bullshit.

Oh shit, I grew up next to a Ray Catena Mercedes-Benz dealership

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Love Noah just talking over the guys who made the movie.

Will’s comparison with Killers of the Flower Moon is spot on/something that occurred to me too especially re: the Frank Alvarez murder

It's kinda funny how both Will and the TA hosts call this a murder when the documentary itself basically concludes that he probably killed himself due to not being able to actually find anything conclusive about the conspiracy he was banking on to sell his book and get himself out of impending crushing debt

A bonus in the hand is worth two with George Bush

When is Poppy Part 42?

To Noah’s point at the end, when watching the doc there was one of those scenes where names and stuff are being connected with lines. During the BCCI part one of the lines connected to a guy named Cartayna. I remembered from research he was close friends with the Cuba exile fellas running ops for the CIA. Seeing something like that, I think the reality is that as people get more settled in positions of power they are simply more likely to carry out rackets and sometimes these are actually part of a broader operation, but once it’s wound up the individual still reaps rewards of having been, e.g., on the board at BCCI or whatever.

Zachary Treats

lol, I was just finishing up the TA episodes, thinking about how Zachary sounds like Noah.

It's so obvious that laziness has completely taken over with the flow of content. How many weeks now have they skipped the Monday release or substituted with some pre-recorded shit from months ago? It wouldn't be a big deal if this was free but we pay for it.

I cannot follow any of this shit no matter how many chapo adjacent podcasts cover it

TrueAnon had 2 episodes of this already

I’m on my way home to my love. This shit’s just vestigial and entertainment and you should learn that mass politics is just what you make of it.

They just left the TrueAnon Zoom call and logged right into the Chapo one 👍

Damnnn, y'all from Louisville? Even cooler than I thought. Go Cards!

Some of you all are really tripping. I thought this was a great episode. Also, you have to be really old to know this but I’m positive that Spy magazine covered this-I think focused on the journalist murder back in the 90s-as described in this episode, it was pretty vague, but all the elements were there.

Turns out Earl Brian did his Neurosurgery residency at Stanford… spook central https://www.mykeeper.com/profile/EarlBrian/

The Shining Murders was what we were discussing.

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Amazing story and documentary, but these guys have no idea how to give an interview and tell a story on a podcast episode. They launch into 10 tangents about picking up Michael Riconosciuto from prison before even explaining who he (or Danny) is. So frustrating guys get it together

this was fucking insane

I got all excited cuz I thought we about to have a ghost stories cross ep. I dunno if this Netflix shits good or not but go check out the octopus series on ghost stories.

Just finished this, spooky.

Rest in slaw

I was honestly dreading this, have heard them on multiple different podcasts and still have no idea what they are talking about. Was thinking earlier today "hope they don't do Chapo too". First ever whining post oink oink

Poopy

ive been relistening to the Poppy series and Will's open on part I is absolutely haunting me today

I'm currently working my way through the back catalogue of Ghost Stories for the End of the World, and am halfway through the Octopus episodes. Good timing... suspiciously good, actually 🤔🤔🤔

I understand people have to make the rounds when they’re debuting something new, but I do get annoyed when all of my favorite parasocial pals interview the same guest

Gotta admit when I first saw "Christian" I thought it said Christman and I got really excited for half a second.

Bonus slop!