798 - Iowa Carcass feat. @ettingermentum (1/15/24)
Well, here we are, Iowa Caucus day 2024. Considering we all took several points of permanent sanity damage this time 4 years ago, what’s insane this year is how on rails this whole thing is. Nonetheless, our elections correspondent Josh (@ettingermentum) returns to update us on the state of the races for 2024. We look at how Biden’s long-term hyper-commitment to Israel affects his chances, Trump’s advantages and disadvantages in his ‘24 campaign, the RFK Jr. of it all, and the race for #2 between the rest of the GOP candidates..
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Comments (129)
Hard to hear the suggestion to not vote. No problem with not voting d or r but a vote for any 3rd party candidate would be a much stronger statement than a boycott of our voting rights
I love when people say that this is "wasting" your vote. Oh, ok, let me vote for corrupt psychopaths then, good call.
Magnets thing could be a nephew line
Ok I'm only 2 minutes into the episode, but I had to come here to say this... How on earth are they saying Obama's second term is one of the worst for video games? Dark Souls 2 and 3, Bloodborne, GTA V, Metal Gear Solid V, Rocket League, the Witcher 3, and to name a few... Yeah COD and Halo and AC games were shitty but I'm just stunned they could say 2013-2016 was anything other than an elite period in gaming
Catholics are not typically zionists, and the current pope is very much not one. So, I'm not sure that explains it. Old people tend to be zionists.
DC towel trick reference!
In re some comments that were either deleted or removed - it really is remarkable how most people on here (+ most people everywhere) can go day in and day out being normal, maybe disagree on this or that, but essentially they're held together by some basic human decency. BUT every now and then a genuinely despicable person pops by, and the following sequence will occur: 1) "me me me complain" 2) (gets some pushback) 3) "STUART SELDOWITZ MADE SOME GOOD POINTS TBH" You can set your fucking watch to it. It's like, yeah, not everybody can take criticism. I used to absolutely suck at it. But if someone is genuinely a piece of shit, they go RIGHT for the "genocide against brown people is good actually" (or some other reprehensible view) angle. It really is that simple. They're like Jim Carrey in LIAR LIAR trying to say the pen is red. Anyway just a couple of things that've been going through my head. Horror fans check out the Argentine tingler WHEN EVIL LURKS (2023), it's kind of one of those "First half better than the second half" but that first half had me whooping and hooting. That's your movie recommendation from your old pal. I think it's on Shudder.
Thanks dude, I'll try to check it out. For the record, tho, I don't think that was a normal person: every detail screamed hasbara zombie.
I've finally come around, I've realized my Bernie-bro leftism has consequences for marginalize folx... that's why I'll be voting for Elizabeth warren this November
Did some googling on the best head of gov for video games and I have to give the crown to Junichiro Koizumi
Electoral politics is just f*cked right now. Real change happens on the ground although I think many of us will be sitting this one out!
Christie dropped out? I thought he got 35 votes in Iowa cause he's a loser 😕
I thought Felix was about to announce a miniseries on fromsoft games with Josh. Pleasantly surprised its only on cross-dressing wife beaters.
Segment about not voting for Biden is chicken soup for my soul. So sick of the lib nonsense about how this genocidal piece of shit is the only thing between us and fascism. Majority Report clips on this and their comment section have taken a lot out of me the past few days.
Really excited for the new project! Is the Spencer mentioned as involved the guy from Good Old Fashioned Values?
New Hampshirians?
Fetterman had it right. I should sit this one out.
insanity
I've been explaining how much my dad is like Trump for 7 years and now I can add "love of Phantom (especially the Gerard Butler one)" to the list. We saw it in a theater together and he was like 🥺
I will never watch or rewatch any of these films, but my guess is that some of the ludicrous stabs at artistic relevance such as Gerard Butler / Madonna starring in musicals or middle-brow art films like Nell are among the funniest movies ever made. Or they might be unendurable slogs. One of the two but there may be a gem in there.
I signed up to ettingermentum to read The Art Of Losing: Stacey Abrams on a whim and then last time I saw the autobilling I was like dude what the hell I'm canadian and paying to read horse race analysis of US politics, I need to cut that off, but then when he said that the video game rating of US presidential terms was coming up next I was like yknow what let's leave it up another month
Banger ep, instant classic.
Vivek was the republican Beto. He ran only on culture war issues. Instead of Beto saying on day one he would ban all guns you get Vivek saying on day one he will order the fbi to be abolished
Good call. Also young and weird name. Vivek rapped badly in college, guess that would the bad skateboarding equivalent.
I actually know more about politics than ettingermentum
If Kamala becomes president, will they call her era "Kamalot?"
I’d like to submit Obamboozler as the Presidency in the video games category.
How come when Chapo posts new shows they don’t show up in my Patreon newsfeed (except the Hell of Presidents eps)? Weird.
Just watched Charlie Kirk's takedown of MLK Jr. If anyone is looking for a good laugh I highly recommend. It's pretty funny.
Trumps magnet thing was talking about the magnetic shit the Navy has been doing, like the flight deck catapults
navy magnets are gay as hell
"I don't want Trump to win" followed almost immediately by "I think that you're lower than dogshit if you vote for Joe Biden", and then "I think nobody should vote in 2024" belies a deeply unserious position. I get Bernie lost but throwing in the towel and just laying out the welcome mat for American fascism is just not a good way to respond to it.
Do you think Biden isn’t a fascist
Biden's a bad president but I'll forgive the whole thing if he invents some kind of Israel coded ritual suicide
Get Headtingermentum
Did Trump really bring them Casey's? He's going to sweep the entire midwest and the south.
Yes!
I'm sorry but the 25th anniversary Phantom of the Opera original cast recording is the definitive edition for all the Phantom heads. Easily clears the 86' cast recording or the 04' film version.
I love how Biden says “mea coupa, mea coupa” instead if the actual “mea culpa, mea culpa.” I guess his accent comes out when he speaks Latin?
Me, a Koopa!
When historians write about Kamalas 40 yr reign it will be known as kamalalot
This guy sounds exactly like TV’s Frank
Guys please please have more Josh
One of my more worrying thoughts is that the Biden team thinks (the old guy is just running on reflex, but the gnomes he has around are formulating the policy) that the only response to the hit they took in the polls post Afghanistan withdrawal (best thing they ever did) is to go super aggressive in foreign policy from Ukraine to Gaza. They’ve ingrained the basic tenets of neoconservative thought into the admin’s foreign policy at this point, and the most insane thing is they think it’s an electoral winner. We are truly walking over a precipice in the ME all because they all believe in the fuckin Abraham accords
Neocons merely adopted war hawkishness. Libs were born in it, molded by it.
ELITE episode
OK yall let's be real... it's Biden v Trump; your vote is best spent electing the person with the least political capital so a minimum of (counterproductive) shit can be legislated. I want a do nothing congress and a do nothing executive, simply because I'm terrified of what a politically "unified" America will do next.
My vote is best spent trying to get a third party candidate to 5%.
Cornel West?
I'm feeling like he's the best option too, I mean, if you still feel morally compelled to vote. As a great man once said: Change My Mind.
I dunno. 2024 terrifies me. Morally, no, not voting for Biden, but having Trump in office just fucks my shit up as one of them Blacks people tend to not give a fuck about.
I feel you. The desire to protect some targeted persons from political bigotry is the one thing that keeps almost making me start voting again and siding with the Dem party. But then I remember that the Dems don’t actually do anything to protect those groups so it doesn’t matter.
RFK Jr. is running for president as an independent, not a Democrat.
He is so ugly, he has a chicken face and is mentally retarded. Beautiful Cheryl Hines need to leave that loser. She can do ALOT BETTER and WILL.
Trump has to be defeated. If you hear "DAAAAAAAAAA-da-na-na-na-NUHHHHHHHHHH-na-na-na-na-DAAAAAAAA" and don't immediately think of Pink Floyd, you are a loser with no taste in music. I can't forgive having to hear that riff in the wrong song so now I'll cleanse my ears out again.
the Pink Floyd version goes “DA DA,” not “DAAAAAAAAAA” poser
Why does Chapo keep acting like Biden has any idea of what the fuck is going on? That he is alert and oriented enough to know where the fuck he is and what year it is? You guys are dem tools
Did you listen to the same podcast I listened to?
Trump is so funny and magnetic, it’s fucking exhausting to listen to libs pretend otherwise.
His "rallies" are really just live shows.
I wanna know who the Dems will run to lose in 28, probably Hillary again
Big question is if the Silicon Valley money comes into it's own and we get ppl like Phillips and Khanna or if those guys are still too stunted and weird for a national audience.
Tbh Will got it right on one of the first episodes after 7th of October, Biden just thinks 'they went after one of ours so now we have full licence to do what we want to them'. I think, like a lot of zionists, Biden's genuinely baffled that other people don't see it that way. Israel = our side, muslims = bad side. Everything else is just noise to him.
Sooooo stoked for the ettingermentum collab
#Kamalot
Love how trump’s biden impression is just saying stuff he (trump) would say
On who RFK Jr is running for: I have a friend (34, mom, high level hospital administrator, typically a-political, happily entering into her self-described “Karen era”) who is absolutely swooning over RFK jr because she thinks he’s sexy for doing flips into water bodies, she’s also vehemently anti-vax (which didn’t start as a rights thing, it started as a personal health thing, and snowballed into her entire political identity) so RFK very much scratched that itch for her. “Hot,”name recognition, flips, anti-vax.
His grift has always been Karen focused l, before we had a name for them.
Jesus, being from NH, guess I'll go kill myself.
Holy shit. If the Afghanistan withdrawal is actually what tanked Biden’s popularity that is a fucking chef’s kiss - the establishment media, who helped Trump win against their preferred candidate in 2016, unwittingly sunk Biden’s re-election chances by going sicko mode on him when he dared to pull out. These mfers are making rakes just to step on them
This is the bread sandwich of takes
I can't explain Biden's "love" for Israel but the strong impression i get from all his words and actions is that he does not have a reason. He is just a fucking lunatic, and this issue brings out his truest self.
Nah, he never cared that it wasn't some liberal fantasy Israel. He, like a whole bunch of his imperialist ilk, fetishize the Israeli Sparta idea.
Ngl I didn’t even realize that there was a caucus here until I stopped seeing the ads on hulu while watching it’s always sunny. Tricky Nicky and the Radical Trans Agenda! She’s done! A washed up has-been! Bye bye!
Hope someone shows Trump the Nightwish version of 'the phantom of the opera'!
Ettinger is here which means my coworkers will see me laughing
Lets frkn go man
Ppl from New Hampshire are known as New Hampsters
This was funny and true !
Would be awesome to see an episode about what’s currently going on in Okinawa (forced land reclamation by the Japanese govt to build a new US military base despite widespread local resistance)
damn! thats fucked
Squozen? Yet another Goat’d Pilko reference by the god Will.
Biden's Catholicism doesn't explain his ardent Zionism. Some of the more critical comments that I've heard about Israel come from Catholics who went on a "Holy Land tour" that included stops in Jordan and Israel. I would tend to attribute Biden's love for Israel to the fact that he never went to Israel as a normal person -- he always got the sanitized VIP tour. He also probably thought that the movie version of Leon Uris's "Exodus" was a documentary.
Also, not sure what the big mystery is with 2024. Biden is absolutely cooked. Age. The loss of COVID-era social safety net and Gaza have sunk him. The most recent Michigan poll has Biden down 8 in a state he only won by 3 points. Biden nationally has George W. Bush 2006-2008 approvals. Things keep getting worse. The Muslim-American vote is sufficient enough to sink him in Nevada, Arizona (where he had slim margins), and Michigan. e.g. the issue Biden has is similar to Clinton in 2016 with industrial unions and free trade -- if people have organized and helped elect you in the past, and you break the trust on a fundamental issue, those votes are lost. Biden is going to lose both the electoral college and the popular vote, because he is trying to max out the Never Trump GOP vote and hasn't done a good enough job strengthening his base (re-election cycles typically are about base motivation too). The coalition in 2024 is going to be the Dem mid-term suburban vote-aholics against the GOP 2022 mid-term vote, plus Trump-fanatics who sat out the 2022 mid-terms. Overall I expect lower turnout given how unpopular both Trump and Biden are with the electorate as a whole. Trump's benefit right now is that he is not the incumbent. He doesn't have to make an argument for himself, just has to argue why Biden doesn't deserve re-election. Trump is beatable, but Biden isn't the one.
Haley's your next President. It feels right.
Nah - Biden Harris re-election, Trump wins popular vote but loses electoral college, then Biden dies. That feels right
The Trump magnets thing has got to be because he heard someone talk once about quenching, like for an MRI machine
Wake up and smell the Iowa Carcass.
Jesus fuck Felix is multiplying
Ettingermentum is a spartan 4, Felix is a spartan 2, in podcasting terms
I’m still not totally unconvinced that ettingermentum isn’t just Felix doing a deeper voice
Shrub? You’re recycling Molly Ivins, the most overrated columnist ever (yes, I’m including Friedman in that)? C’mon guys, as the libs say, do better.
Do you know how hipsters work
Josh is up there with my favorite guests
Bush Sr. is 100% without a doubt the best video game president.
SNES and Genesis both came out during Bush Sr.'s presidency, which is mostly why his was the best. These games came out during his presidency: Wolfenstein 3D, Mario Kart, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, Dr. Mario, A Link to the Past, Sonic, Street Fighter 2, Monkey Island, Lemmings, Civ, Railroad Tycoon, F-Zero, Mortal Kombat, TMNT, Madden, Kirby's Dream Land, Metal Gear 2, Fire Emblem, Tetris on NES and Game Boy, Prince of Persia...
SILENT HILL 2 WAS 2001 FELIX OH MY GOD
SEPTEMBER 2001!
Bush years had some great shit but 1998 sweeps, Clinton wins, GITCY4L
Looks like the polls swooning over Haley were, well, WRONG WRONG WRONG. But it doesn't matter who's second, who's third, etc.; Trump's the nominee. Repubs oughta follow the Dem road: Cancel the primaries and just crown the fascist clown.
Running fixed primaries always seems to hurt the candidate ultimately. Hilary's coronation is a big reason Trump won 2016. All for Republicans adopting the Democrat's mistakes, but that doesn't seem to be happening.
Hakos Baelz Phantom of the Opera is my favorite version.
no disrespect to felix but the clinton administrations are still goated for video games
The person who used the “tantrum” remark was Sarah Longwell, who is NOT a Democratic mouthpiece. Shes a lifelong Republican that works for “The Bulwark.”
She's a Never Trump Republican. However, I wouldn't be surprised if she voted for both Clinton in 2016 and Biden in 2020.
Meatball Ron wins first place loser
The Krusty Krab pizza is the pizza for you and for me
Biden's Israel stance is gonna wreck him, and the dems are gonna lose a LOT of voters for a very long time because of it.
I do wonder how it's going to be perceived widely after this. You have the horrific outcome and Biden's insane statements, but also they're still running this "working behind closed doors to minimize harm" line, and I think they'll try to pin as much as they can on Netanyahu acting alone. I think ultimately it'll depend on whatever the Party's current needs are after the next term.
Looks like Sugar Free Ron is still alive.
Well, you can have pro Israel President Biden or Pro Israel DICTATOR TRUMP who will replace Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito. Also President Biden ended the Afghan occupation. Remember, Bernie Sanders has backed Israel, too. Let’s not go to fascist rule.
Thank you i see the light now I will go to voter booth for biden
Ah, new chapo, the only thing worth living to hear
i started listening to chapo traphouse around this time in 2019. so much has changed.
Me too! Exact same time.
Another ettingmenrum episode, another episode to skip lol
Why cuh
FIRST!
Squozen
There’s no Beltway Garage without Matt. Thank you for respecting precedent. 🫡
Biden's first and probably only term was pretty fucking good for games. Biden should run with that. "If you're not voting for me, you ain't a baldurs gate 3 player."
Hell yeah dude
🦃Giblets pizza pie🤌
seriously I know it’s their job but how tf is MSM gonna push Nikki Haley??? As someone from SC, that hoe is fucking washed let her go back to Boeing
Hoeing for Boeing: the Nikki Haley Story
the only thing holding me together after the birds loss
Lol, Casey's pizza!
Furst
No it was me, I just decided not to comment