732 - Marinating Melvin (5/15/23)
It’s Ted Lasso, folks! Yes, after many years of consternation around this show in the Discourse, many requests for review (and Will watching a bunch of that Good Doctor show and reporting back it was actually pretty ok), we decided to take a look at this footballing Yank and his relentless positivity. So, here’s our review of Ted Lasso and what it’s psychotic cheeriness says about TV and America.
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this was such a great episode
they just referred to jason sudeikis as ted lasso on the nfl london broadcast and I came running back to this like michael b jordan in creed
I used to think the boys were a little too harsh on 'ol fuddy duddy Lasso but then season 3 happened and I switched between boredoms yet unknown and saccharine induced vomiting during my viewings
I suspect we're actually gonna see more and more of this kind of bunny soft, stroke-your-back-and-say-it's-OK media going forward as people get just physically sicker with things like stress, unaddressed pollution, banned-everywhere-but-America food additives, and long covid. A growing niche of targeted content for people with chronic illnesses.
I feel halfway the same. Yeah sometimes its nauseating but it has enough scraps of humor or plot to be just ok. I would be more repulsed if we were all watching network television and it was the current "The Office", but for the streaming age its a fine show to throw on with family or passively in the background to numb your brain. I do completely agree that there was potential for an actually good show if Lasso was a psychopath or at least showed these people at their worst instead of best. That's why I gave it a shot because I thought it would be that, but its still serviceable as a television after-dinner mint
I watched some Marinating Melvin after this episode and it's really just a stupid, sincere show that isn't all that unpleasant. Aside from Sudekis being an annoying cheesedick and Nate looking like a muffin, it's on par with something like Tulsa King.
That idea of people competing with positivity is literally just a Smiling Friends episode. Highly recommend
I want to know what’s going on with the silo
If you ask to leave they have to let you but you're supposed to clean the security camera before the poison gasses kill you.
Ted Lasso is liberal fascist media that imagines Soy American Exceptionalism as the panacea of the world. The relationship of Lasso with the brits is just a representation of the way that Center/Left of Center libs view the "mission" of Woke American Imperialism vis a vis the swarthy hordes of the world. It'll help calm suburban anxiety as we start burning down villages around the world to prevent de-dollarization, or at the very least give them an excuse to be okay with the genocide because people in the Third World keep refusing to use preferred pronouns.
Yeah even though it’s obviously quite popular - specifically zeroing in on this stupid little show that’s trying to be earnest and positive, because of course you’re all so unbearably clever that you’d never be duped by something that didn’t just drag you through the mud and tar and tell you it’s all meaningless. I mean there’s a place for that but my mom has cancer and she’s watching Ted Lasso over and over because it makes her feel better. Not a lot of culture that actually does that is there boys? You think No Country for Old Men is gonna help my mom feel nice after chemo? You think maybe there’s a place in the world for something that’s trying to be earnest and being cynical is actually easier? You guys reference David Foster Wallace maybe read some. Cynicism and pessimism and gallows humour is, sorry to say, fuckin easier. I know you guys closed the last little door of earnesty in your hearts when Bernie won - but I’m dying for an explanation as to why this ok-to-pretty-good show is the target of such vitriol. It’s not prestige and it’s not Bosch or Ray Donovan sulking into their navels, but it makes a lot of people feel nice after the end of history president and the pandemic. Apart from your half assed imperialism comment why do you actually care if people enjoy this thing
My mom recently passed from ALS- the last year of her life was miserable, and anytime that she and my dad (her full time caregiver) had time/energy to watch TV, they wanted to watch something feel-good. They became really into this show because it gave them a lift in the middle of an incredibly dark time. I'm not a fan of the show personally, but can appreciate what you're saying about it being a useful escape for people in difficult situations. Also, sorry to hear about your mom- best wishes.
I like Chapo. I like Ted Lasso.
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ill not watch it--any snl players in a show is a major turn off. (I do love 30-rock, tho, and I enjoyed the first season of Barry--but that's saved by Stephen Root) I saw Suckdickus speaking at the White House about health care awareness. I think we're beyond "awareness" (corporate lip service/thoughts any prayers) of mental health or cancer or whatever else--it all means nothing without single payer. im glad Chapo watched it for me, canaries in the shitty culture coalmine--bravo!
TV is for boomers. Remember when tv was distainfully referred to as the boob tube and a place where rotting brains go to die? Nothing has changed. And no, your favorite prestige tv show wasn’t good or important.
SPORTS
A little too on the nose that Ted Lasso filmed an episode where all the footballers talk about the evils of revenge porn at around the same time this verdict was handed down: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/24/french-footballer-karim-benzema-guilty-sex-tape-extortion-scandal
Ted Lasso: SVU
My first impression of Lasso was more “dances with limeys.” Like he may be a American yokel but these Brits have never seen coaching or baking skills like these! I feel like they need an episode where he’s the GOAT of the great British bake off.
Look, I've studiously avoided watching the show, but everything you are describing here about the kind of flaccid anti-humor just goes back to Parks and Rec. Parks and Rec was the show that delighted its audience by just kind of serving up picaresque vignettes of these quirky so-and-sos just doing stuff and being cute. And Parks and Rec stole that model off the last few (unwatchable) seasons of The Office, which started out being a show about uncomfortability, thwarted expectations, and the despair of work. In other words, it started out being about people at their worst and soon turned into fanfic about lives of contented mediocrity.
Don’t ruin Parks and Rec for me. :(
i once worked at a coffee shop that had a ted lasso day and i heard it was one of the most miserable days that my coworkers had ever experienced
I feel bad for them but please say more
Extremely good ep with a god-tier Fall song on the outro if you don't like this you are dumb
what about this ep was good?? am i dumb?!?!
Felix really turnt for this one
Tv is pizza or potato chips. Ted lasso is goldfish crackers
Funny episode but Chapo boys are acting like moral-lesson-sitcoms are a new invention lol
The difference is that Golden Girls is actually hilarious and nasty in addition to the “friendship conquers all” lessons
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All these dudes do now is watch TV this shit sucks lol
You’re a buttface
Have never watched the show (nor Silo) but episode was a banger. You’re all morons.
I haven't seen any of the promos for the Silo, but the Chapo critique makes me want to watch it for some reason. What the fuck is in that thing?!
Just remember this is the show that’s stealing Emmy’s from Barry
that sucks
This topic wasn't worth a whole show
Weak episode. Boring unless you have watch Ted Lasso.
All of the Chapo patrons who incessantly complain in the comments, folks, you're going in the Silo.
Them and new Twitter blue checks still complaining about getting shadow banned
Felix brings up Mongols no less than three separate times in this episode
Surprised these dudes have never done a Twin Peaks episode
FIRE WALK WITH ME !!
Your heart’s not in this one though
How Could You Forget severance?
The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret, from what I remember, has a similar dynamic to Ted Lasso but is actually funny.
That show is an underrated gem. David Cross seemed to understand British humour, and the cultural dissonance enough to actually make it funny
have they heard of Severance?
It's a Bill Lawrence show. It's a little better than Scrubs, and not as good as Cougartown. I get that Ted's relentless positivity is a bit much, but it's hardly the darkest vision of American Empire. Try Yellowstone for a truly psychotic vision of America.
The bit with Kevin Costner and those Chinese tourists is the only clip I've ever seen from Yellowstone. I feel like I got a good sample of Taylor Sheridan mindset
Soccer is a much better sport than baseball
Yeah if you like scoreless ties and helpless goalies guessing during PKs
Ted Lasso serves the purpose of a traditional multicam sitcom for libs who think they are too evolved and sophisticated for the lowbrow hog slop the hoi polloi consume.
A life beyond slop? I refuse to entertain this
Comedy is when YOU walk into an open manhole and die
This is once again the most unhinged place on the internet
If you dig down into Apple+ content and contracts you will probably find that about 85% of their total content published this year was written by Chat GPT.
Pretty sure I killed several budding friendships by admitting that I didn’t like Ted Lasso. They’ve treated me differently ever since. One person got visibly upset.
Prestige TV breaks people’s brains. Every two months a new season of something snows people into believing it’s the best art that’s ever been made, and they get red hot flaming mad if anyone suggests otherwise
Never seen the show, but the audio from the clip you played sounded like bad satire from a SNL skit
Ok, I approve of this ep
Need the Silo review from Matt. Worked on that book series. I can already hear the exact pitch of his voice screeching about the big reveal. It's not what you think folks.
The silo is Herman's head
Sounds like Bojack Horseman
Naw Bojack is good
Boy you guys are gonna look really stupid when Ted Lasso makes me millions in Iraqi Dinar when he's made Minister of Finance for Iraq at the end of season 4.
Yeah idk about this one fellas
Their counter show to this is “The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret”, where an American moves to England and destroys all life on Earth.
The show is actually good TV.
I watched a couple episodes of this on an airplane once and multiple dads made me take off my headphones to tell me it’s a good show
Baseball a better sport than soccer? You MUST be kidding. Outside Japan, Mexico and Cuba NOBODY gives a shit about baseball, compared to soccer it's a dying game. Big L fellas, dead take.
And they’re all wrong
The only thing I like about this show is the tie in ice cream flavor my mom found.
Oh wow looking this up it’s “Biscuits with the Boss” made by Jeni’s ice cream? I can’t believe that guy who beat Paul Pelosi failed to swipe a pint from Nancy’s freezer.
There's a british show from years ago called Footballers Wives that was very trashy and over the top, probably a more accurate portrayal of wag/premier league football than Ted Lasso though.
I can't hear about Ted Lasso without thinking about Jason Sudeikis lying on the ground behind Olivia Wilde's car to keep her from leaving to fuck Harry Styles. EDIT: lol Matt mentioned it
Ned Flanders yes. I thought the same but couldn’t make it far enough to discover Ted Lasso isn’t religious. Also, I knew something was wrong with this show because the psychotic cheery CEO at my last company always name dropped Lasso in our all hands meetings.
Bosses LOVE this show
1st season was fine, wasn't attached enough to any of it to pursue further. I think though that the series finale should be Ted and the boss lady going hog wild, unedited, full penetration rough sex, but through a series of mishaps it gets displayed on the jumbotron during halftime. Then everyone claps
Asshole Ted Lasso is just such a more compelling show
Outro music is spot on. Long live MES.
I wont see the Silo show, but I assume its a rendition of the Silo series by Hugh Howey. I don't remember it well, but didn't that end with "The world ended and it was the US's fault?"
Ted Lasso is the Itchy and Scratchy episode with no violence
All I wanna be is Ted Lasso
i'm so sad that this is what my coworkers like
Sudeikis is great in the Nacho Vigalondo film Colossal as a selfless friend to Anne Hathaway who turns out to be extremely manipulative. I’d never be able to watch Ted Lasso because I can only see him as sinister.
I would rather see a show about the two sports broadcaster characters sudekis and will forte played on snl.
Thanks for your service. Confirms everything I avoided this show for as a British man who loves football. The fact this turdpile wins awards is damning for civilisation. Please do ‘Succession’ which is even worse in that it appeals to libs but manages to attempt at humanising billionaires. Easily more sinister than Lasso.
I don’t think you understand succession of you think that it’s trying to humanize billionaires. So much of that show is showing how evil and heartless and out of touch with reality people with that much money have.
This may be the dumbest Chapo episode ever. It’s just a silly, easy show and they fucking love it just like everyone else. There is no political drive behind it, it’s just a nice 30 minutes of goofs once a week to pacify your aching American brain.
Fortunately it’s nearly an hour long!
Ted Lasso feels like they made the anodyne kindness of a flight attendant the spiritual core of the show. Your mind is eating dry nutritionless saltine crackers from a plastic sleeve wrapper.
Oh, is there an episode about Ted’s porn star past? Because with a mustache like his, he had to have starred in Slobbing the Knob 8.
This sounds kinda like First and Ten (well, 35 years later, in England, and playing soccer), except instead of the problems being tidily resolved at the end of the episode, the problems are resolved right away. Oh, and none of the cast has killed anyone. Yet.
The real life characters of Ted Lasso are a little more interesting. Welcome to Wrexham is American Influence but of course not coaching ownership. Jesse Marsch basically spent more time convincing Brits he wasn't Ted Lasso. More deeply is using Lasso to become a Bobby Robson figure. Look him up, he managed my hometown team Ipswich went on to manage PSV, Porto and Barcelona. Nate's character arc is based on Jose Mourinho who worked as a translator for Robson at Porto and then became an assist manager under Robson at Barcelona. Roy Kent arc started as Roy Keane but has morphed into Pep who was a defensive mid under Robson at Barcelona and is on the record as saying that Robson inspired him to become a manager. Robson brought total football to England, another arc in Ted Lasso character development after going to the Netherlands. Robson brought in two Dutch players to Ipswich Arnold Muhren and Frans Tyson. In short watch the Bobby Robson Documentary instead. Lol
It's very interesting how over the last few years I've heard people talk more and more about "comfort shows". I think they may be trying to come up with shows that already feel like you've watched it in the background 1,000 times the first time you watch it.
also I watched the first 2 episodes of the Silo and it’s actually even worse than the boys made it out to be
the way Felix pronounces “Ja Morant” is wild
I love Ted lasso but the guys made some great points 🤣
Guys, please watch the season 2 finale. There's this amazing scene with Ted and Nate that I think you'll love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MlXosynvCI
My parents have been watching Ted Lasso together throughout their entire divorce and now they are like dating again and still watching it. Excited to learn what the hell it's about
Felix is right, Deadwood is definitely the greatest show ever
The movie is good too. Watching George Hearst get his shit pushed in by an angry mob was a real treat. Had to rewind that part at least twice.
My wife & I watched the first two episodes. We didn’t like it because it felt like they making fun of someone with special needs.
Ted Lasso. But he's a leftist.
Felix's intro killed me instantly! Go off king!🔥🔥🔥 Marinating Melvin! Instant classic this one! Well done fellas
Getting upset about a tv show that is not targeted towards you.
Sorry I don’t think trauma dumping immediately as soon as any tension is built is good writing. I mean the avatar the last air bender had better more fleshed our characters. That show has plenty of people who watch it that aren’t the targeted demographic yet because of good writing it transcends its targeted audience.
For All Mankind should be watched as the prequel to the Fascist universe from season 2 of Picard. Or alternately a prequel to The expanse.
The NBC Sports commercials were funny. Haven’t watched the show
"for some people, this show is like Jack Nicholson saying GooseFrobba to Adam Sandler" sorry im sorry
Ted lasso is good. Tired of every show being about a depressed real estate agent who sells meth or something
I wonder if making fun of Ted Lasso (who tells his audience what they want to hear) and joking about all the very old politicians is Chapo's way of coming to terms with how Bernie Sanders turned out.
Yea I imagine there’s a Ted Lasso S3 episode about “unprocessed trauma” from 3 years ago that addresses this?
I wish they had spent the episode on something actually important: what is going on with that silo?
The silo is on an island
Does it matter if I’ve never watched the show? Will the humor in the episode still work?7
oh boy just wait until you all get to season 3, where there is a subplot about a psychic's predictions coming true and another one about the team captain getting super pissed at a closeted teammate and won't speak to him. Not because he's gay mind you, but because he didn't tell him he was gay first.
Felix has been waiting for this episode for a long time it seems like lol. I like it but agree with every thing said in this episode about it haha.
Silo fucking rules so far FYI. Hope more people watch it. If it was on HBO it’d be huge lol
What’s the deal with the silo
The fellas haven't cooked like this in a long time 🔥🔥🔥
"why does he have a southern accent if he's from Kansas?" buddy, you already know the answer. John Brown let his grand dad go to tell his friends what he saw I've only ever seen photos of Ted Lasso and it just reminds me of the guy who played Maria Bamford's bald ex in Tim and Eric Awesome Show "He could have been in my nook or my cranny, if he wanted"
There’s something about not having any tension or having tension being resolved really quickly
Haven't seen Ted Lasso and I never will but the impression I'm getting is that it's basically Brockmire if he didn't drink
I like the show. A lot of the criticism in the ep is more than fair. The unwillingness to allow tension to exist beyond an episode, the uncompromising charm of ted’s positivity is levels beyond disbelief, and the pop culture references are exhausting. But a lot of this ep felt contrived. I guess I just have no clue what commentary they are responding to, one tweet about eating pussy? Feels like this ep is just responding to some internet discussion that no cares / should care about.
Or!!! The “more than fair” criticism that you described is the reason they didn’t like the show because not everybody likes everything and definitely not for the same reasons.
We leftists truly cannot enjoy anything. Tbh I completely disagree that this such a product of our time. Most TV in hbo, Netflix, etc. is cynical. Also there was shit brought up that makes me think they didn’t actually watch the show? Would’ve rather have an episode about the Good Doctor.
they probably all binged a season or two while on their phones or something, I think Felix even said he put up a dark souls 2 speedrun while watching. to me, they seemed to have missed a lot of finer details and jokes, though they obviously still picked up a lot. they got the general picture to be sure, but if they think there are No Characters they probably were kind of listening to dialogue and checking back over every now and then to see what was happening. e.g. I would say toheeb jimoh's character of Sam is well defined, if simple: hes incredibly kind and caring, almost overly aware of others feelings, and as a result has developed all these weird, funny idiosyncrasies in his behavior that the other teammates are kind of weirded out by. like when he says he asks girls to delete photos from his phone, it is kinda silly. he could do it himself, but that's how Sam is. he's just that respectful and nice and wants to make sure they know that the "photos" are gone, giving them some peace of mind. or Cristo Fernandez as dani. hes a pretty classic comedic character of the goofball savant. well also probably some kind of racism going on there but I'm not English so I'm not up on whatever their recent anti-hispanic shit is. plus they seem to want this show to be a kind of more contiguous narrative: things are often resolved in the episode they're introduced in is because that's how writing a half hour show works, you introduce a conflict and solve it by the end of the episode. doesn't always work well but that's how the formula works. the tension is in the episode itself, and it is there. it's an entertaining and funny episode of chapo for sure, but I think Matt is probably the only one who actually sat down and focused on the show. but I can't believe they binged it. just a days worth of Positivity.
make fun of ted lasso all you want, but thousands of years ago we would shake each other's hands to prove we weren't hiding weapons in our sleeves, and now today we do the same by venting our deepest traumas when we make eye contact with strangers. We're just shaking hands, but it's more civilized
Maybe that's what your loser progenitors were doing. My bloodline greeted friend and stranger alike with a gentle but firm dick tug
Great episode. Cyberpunk got unfairly hit with a stray during one of Felix's rants, though: that is a great game, it just has a bad reputation due to its disastrous release.
felix in rare form on this one. always enjoyable when he’s engaged
yeah, it might be all that you get. guess this might well be it. but heaven knows I've tried!
I liked it partially because I was on high school and college sports teams so I watch the team moments and I'm like "yeah, I remember this kinda stuff. it was fun. nostalgia brain activate."
I haven’t listened yet but the what’s frustrating about Ted Lasso is that it wants to be the football version of Major League but is too preoccupied with “kindness” to pull it off. The best parts of the show are when it does dumb guy sports shenanigans but it barely does that after the first season. I think there’s a very funny show in there but it’s just buried in saccharine nonsense. I’ll keep watching that slop though.
This makes the Mitt Romney/ Kirsten Sinima Ted Lasso photo all make sense.
The season finale should just introduce Todd Margeret as Ted’s replacement
MVP of this episode is the pharmacist who finally refilled Felix's Vyvanse
!!!!!
Is there any way I can bring to Chris's attention that everyone is clipping CONSTANTLY on their mics and that it makes this literally painful to listen to? This has been going on for a year plus now where only a few episodes here and there aren't recorded that way.
shut up nerd
Pop off on Harry styles felix
Ha! Still making fun of Barney after all these years.
Barney must die. All else is irrelevant.
If I kill the guy who pitched ‘Young Rock’ they wouldn’t charge me right?
It’s an act of public service.
This was so incredibly unfunny.
I have never seen it but my mom likes Ted Lasso and she is 100% perfect and correct.
Turns out the people live in the Silo. Something strange is going OUTSIDE. So much cooler and better.
Can’t wait to know more about this show than I should
Ted Lasso is a very annoying name
I missed the part in Major League where Lou Brown isn't a qualified baseball manager. You can hate the show but this ep is on the same level of dreck as Ted Lasso.
u gotta suck the dick sloooow
Only hearing about any sort of new TV via podcasts rather than actual irl friends
Very funny episode
I heard Ted Lasso is low key good
it high key sucks
God damnit do not remind me about Jesse Lacey
Feeling very vindicated!!!
Ted Lasso= The Berenstain Bears for adults. But less good
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
Man, y'all have to watch the later seasons just for the Nate arc
Point of correction to Felix: Ronaldo isn't the one with a quasi-incestuous relationship with his sister. He's fairly vanilla...aside from being exiled from America because he's fleeing multiple rape charges and hiring anonymous women to be surrogate mothers so he can raise sons without a wife. It's Neymar who has the quasi-incestuous relationship with his sister.
Ted Lasso is entertaining if you aren't only capable of viewing entertainment through a political lens
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Make Felix watch Mrs. Davis
Is he going to want to fuck the nun or the robot?
It’s rlly cute that Matt says “pussy” like a guy who doesn’t say “pussy” often
Felix never misses an opportunity to bring up the XXXTentacion video
A recently divorced hipster pastor I know loved this show and rocks the mustache. His ex wife has the 5 kids.
Hi, I've been told that Ted Lasso eats pussy. Does he? And what does this say about the contemporary American left?
Ted Lasso? // Ass let do.
Felix coming for my boy Ben Folds in this episode :(
especially damaging for me because i distinctly remember going to an anime convention and a guy unprompted just walked up and said wow you look just like ben folds.
Sudeikis is also a sexual predator. Makes me so fucking mad to see him as the face of “wholesomeness.”
Oh?
Always had the impression that this show is pure evil
We're gonna find out in 30 years all of these PMC therapy shows were a coordinated psyop by the CIA to influence white collar Millennials away from anti-capitalist agitation.
I will always appreciate the references to the porn stars of my 20s.
Do they just say it’s bad?
No. They also use a bunch of bs they read online to say it's bad.
Hot take. The overall positivity will rot your teeth but there's some fantastic one liners and jokes. It's not my favorite show but it's better than Will "I haven't seen an episode until now" Meneker and Matt "I watched one ep on a plane" Christman made it out to be.
No, I agree. It’s not that deep. Libs take it too seriously but its not worth getting this annoyed with.
Jason Dicksuckis
Y'all can Ted my Lasso any time you want
Few things are as reliably embummening as positivity.
Led Tasso
LED ASSHOLE
Im not interested in ted fucking lasso. Enough with that show already. This is even more boring than the Tulsa king shit.
wrong!
Eighth
Random question; anyone remember the ep a few years ago where they discussed the Big Four (KPMG etc.) and how they covered up corruption and stuff? Bit going down now in Aus with PwC
Aimee Therese went all beautiful mind on someone’s accounting books (but instead of a regular mental disorder it’s a mental disorder cause by overdosing on meth)?
Fif
Hi, I’m gay soccer coach Ted Lasso
Finally.
